What if 25GB discs was as good as it got for BD? - Blu-ray Forum

bone crusher · 03-31-2008, 10:13 PM

What if there were no 50Gb discs? Would BD still be in the same position it is now? I can't believe how big of a leap it is from sdvd's 8GB discs to these monster 50GB BDs.

ranma · 03-31-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bone crusher

What if there were no 50Gb discs? Would BD still be in the same position it is now? I can't believe how big of a leap it is from sdvd's 8GB discs to these monster 50GB BDs.

Well, HD DVD is 30G that you can choose, if blu-ray can't make pass 25GB.

Brian Cash · 03-31-2008, 10:23 PM

we prob wouldnt be getting alot of extras and no pcm audio

MatrixS2000 · 03-31-2008, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by bone crusher

What if there were no 50Gb discs? Would BD still be in the same position it is now? I can't believe how big of a leap it is from sdvd's 8GB discs to these monster 50GB BDs.

Yes, Blu-Ray's biggest advantage was bandwidth. Having the 50GB discs just allowed Blu-Ray to use that advantage to keep movies on a single disc.

onumb · 03-31-2008, 10:28 PM

Just the BD video is 4x the amount of bits of SD DVD. If a DVD required the entire 9GB, lets say just for video, you would need 36GB of room on the BD. Now that is not how much it really takes up for just video, but you get the idea. If you want hi-def audio as well, that takes up more room as well. I am not sure the size of the audio for 7.1LPCM vs that for 5.1DD, but you can already see how size is a big factor in quality.

In other words, BD 25s do not have enough space to warrant spending the extra money for the less than hi-def (or barely hi-def) quality jump.

The bandwidth, as stated above, however, is a huge bonus.

BruceWayne · 03-31-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by onumb

not have enough space to warrant spending the extra money for the less than hi-def (or barely hi-def) quality jump.

= HD-DVD

Sonny · 03-31-2008, 10:43 PM

we might be the ones pissed off our format failed...

onumb · 04-01-2008, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceWayne

= HD-DVD

That is exactly the truth. As sad/mean as it may be.

HeavyHitter · 04-01-2008, 02:58 AM

I do think the 50 gig was an important issue for industry support.

Rainman · 04-01-2008, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by onumb

That is exactly the truth. As sad/mean as it may be.

LOL I was thinking the exact same thing.

Mermen79 · 04-01-2008, 04:00 AM

So many discs are still manufactored with 25 GB BD's though... makes the 30GB HD DVD's seem a little better in that regard, sadly.

GreenScar · 04-01-2008, 04:04 AM

i doubt this site would be as popular as it is now

bone crusher · 04-01-2008, 04:44 AM

I was just wondering because I have seen many BDs with only 25Gb discs that looked and sounded great ie; Tears of the Sun, Lord of War, Underworld Evo etc.

perhaps these titles didn't have much for extras though. Not to mention they aren't 3 hours plus like King Kong and LOTR that would need that extra space.

Marcusarilius · 04-01-2008, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by bone crusher

What if there were no 50Gb discs? Would BD still be in the same position it is now? I can't believe how big of a leap it is from sdvd's 8GB discs to these monster 50GB BDs.

Blu-ray 25 gig! The look and sound of good enough!

03-31-2008, 10:13 PM	#1
bone crusher Banned Member since:Jun 2007 Location:canada Trading Score:259	What if 25GB discs was as good as it got for BD? What if there were no 50Gb discs? Would BD still be in the same position it is now? I can't believe how big of a leap it is from sdvd's 8GB discs to these monster 50GB BDs.

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03-31-2008, 10:23 PM	#3
Brian Cash Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Chicago Blu-ray collection:13 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:3	we prob wouldnt be getting alot of extras and no pcm audio

03-31-2008, 10:28 PM	#5
onumb Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:79	Just the BD video is 4x the amount of bits of SD DVD. If a DVD required the entire 9GB, lets say just for video, you would need 36GB of room on the BD. Now that is not how much it really takes up for just video, but you get the idea. If you want hi-def audio as well, that takes up more room as well. I am not sure the size of the audio for 7.1LPCM vs that for 5.1DD, but you can already see how size is a big factor in quality. In other words, BD 25s do not have enough space to warrant spending the extra money for the less than hi-def (or barely hi-def) quality jump. The bandwidth, as stated above, however, is a huge bonus.

03-31-2008, 10:43 PM	#7
Sonny Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:8 Blu-ray reviews:6 Trading Score:1	we might be the ones pissed off our format failed...

04-01-2008, 02:58 AM	#9
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	I do think the 50 gig was an important issue for industry support.

04-01-2008, 04:00 AM	#11
Mermen79 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Trading Score:3	So many discs are still manufactored with 25 GB BD's though... makes the 30GB HD DVD's seem a little better in that regard, sadly.

04-01-2008, 04:04 AM	#12
GreenScar Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray collection:148 Trading Score:2	i doubt this site would be as popular as it is now

04-01-2008, 04:44 AM	#13
bone crusher Banned Member since:Jun 2007 Location:canada Trading Score:259	I was just wondering because I have seen many BDs with only 25Gb discs that looked and sounded great ie; Tears of the Sun, Lord of War, Underworld Evo etc. perhaps these titles didn't have much for extras though. Not to mention they aren't 3 hours plus like King Kong and LOTR that would need that extra space.

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