"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[DenonCI]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I am no economist, but looking at people today (and I am sure history would show the same) that when people are depressed (happens more during a recession) people spend more (well at least % of income) on entertainment (be it music, movies or drinks) . Let's face it, you buy to celebrate and you buy when you feel down. I think big ticket items and CEs (big screens, receivers…) will be more hurt but studios and BD will fare well as people need to feal more in control and feel better about their life.

If the choice is between food and a new TV, food wins every time. The economy is not in a good place right now and unless the cost of oil starts to drop discretionary income is going to be in short supply.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I am no economist, but looking at people today (and I am sure history would show the same) that when people are depressed (happens more during a recession) people spend more (well at least % of income) on entertainment (be it music, movies or drinks) . Let's face it, you buy to celebrate and you buy when you feel down. I think big ticket items and CEs (big screens, receivers…) will be more hurt but studios and BD will fare well as people need to feal more in control and feel better about their life.

What you're saying is definitely supported by the last recession and 9/11. DVD grew very well during this time.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

I am no economist, but looking at people today (and I am sure history would show the same) that when people are depressed (happens more during a recession) people spend more (well at least % of income) on entertainment (be it music, movies or drinks) . Let's face it, you buy to celebrate and you buy when you feel down. I think big ticket items and CEs (big screens, receivers…) will be more hurt but studios and BD will fare well as people need to feal more in control and feel better about their life.

What you're saying is definitely supported by the last recession and 9/11. DVD grew very well during this time.

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[Brain Sturgeon]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

(Chicago deep dish is heresy)

Okay now, dem's fightin' words.

I grew up on Gino's East and Lou Malnati deep dish, not to mention the pizza pot pies @ Chicago Pizza and Oven Grinders (which, interestingly, was also a lookout point for the St. Valentine's Day massacre many moons ago). To each their own, but this stuff is heaven.

Not to mention red hots or italian beef from Portillo's or Harold's Chicken... man, I miss Chicaga eats.

[WickyWoo]

Well, from the video it at least APPEARS edible

However when you're making the crust, it's a little known secret that the local water supply chemistry is amazingly important. Somoene stole a Philly restaurant's recipe and sold it to a place down in North Carolina for $150,000, but they couldn't replicate it because the water was different

So the question becomes how he's balanced for the intricicies of LA's water, whether he can equal the heavy mineral content present around here

[Squozen]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With any potentially revolutionary device, procedure, format, etc. such as the Red, I suspect/expect there will be missteps along the way until it is fully baked. Something that should be considered by serious aspiring filmmakers is that even after you purchase the camera (17K ?) that to optimally outfit it, esp. with prime lenses is going to approach or exceed the 6 figure mark……..or, so I’ve heard at the last HPA.

If they do become extremely successful, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else like Arri comes in to compete with them in that market.

Well, that's why you rent a camera. A comparable or lesser digital camera from another company would cost well over $250k.

[hanser]

I would like to add my support for 3D in a future Blu-ray player.

[IMind]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I don't trust any pizza that doesn't come out of Philly and New York (Chicago deep dish is heresy) personally, but next time I'm out there I will try your "joes" and pass judgement

I beg to differ (slightly). While New York and Philly has some good pizza... the pizza on the shoreline of Connecticut is the best. While New Haven is the most famous in Connecticut for pizza with Sally's and Pepe's... just about any small pizza shop on the shoreline of CT makes an awesome pizza.

[PaulGo]

I just read that Amir was appointed as the new President of Sony.















April fool!

[Shadowself]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With any potentially revolutionary device, procedure, format, etc. such as the Red, I suspect/expect there will be missteps along the way until it is fully baked. Something that should be considered by serious aspiring filmmakers is that even after you purchase the camera (17K ?) that to optimally outfit it, esp. with prime lenses is going to approach or exceed the 6 figure mark……..or, so I’ve heard at the last HPA.

If they do become extremely successful, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone else like Arri comes in to compete with them in that market.

Penton, in my world (sometimes with the $1M+ FPAs) the lens/optics is almost always more expensive than the FPA and camera body electronics. So I'm not at all surprised that Red is charging so much for a full complement of lenses for the Red One. Seems reasonable to me as a good telecentric lens is rather difficult to build so that it operates properly over a reasonable range of temperatures.

Also, what I hope to see in the not too distant future is a 3 (dare I dream, 4?) FPA camera that is equivalent to the Red in the same price range. Doing it with folded beam splitters would not make it much heavier or bulkier. Then we'll have something truly revolutionary. No more of those @#$%$# Bayer arrays!

Arri, or another house, moving to the digital world and coming in to directly compete would make it interesting indeed.

[Spankey]

Nothing beats Pete & Elda's in Neptune, NJ. Philly and Western NJ are great for tomato pies, while NY is still the best for a cheese pie. I appreciate the deep dish Chicago style pizza for what it is, but it is not "real" pizza to me.

[johnnyd1]

Originally Posted by IMind

I beg to differ (slightly). While New York and Philly has some good pizza... the pizza on the shoreline of Connecticut is the best. While New Haven is the most famous in Connecticut for pizza with Sally's and Pepe's... just about any small pizza shop on the shoreline of CT makes an awesome pizza.

New Yorks Lower East side pizza is THE Best ! case closed !!!

[Ben]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

P.S.
I don’t know if it’s mentioned in the supplementary material as I didn’t get a chance to watch this film on Blu-ray but if there is no mention of a *funny episode* involving Kubrick and Jan Harlan during the restoration of this landmark film then I’ll share it with you folks sometime if anyone is interested.

I'd love to hear about it!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by owa

In that case, I hope he does find some knowledgeable people from the blu-ray side to provide balance. Otherwise, it's the format-war all over again with HD DVD industry folks having another pulpit (medium) to spread whatever propaganda/BS they want.

I don’t know how successful he will be in lining up Blu folks to interview.

But I do know, that he (the format war filmmaker) was one of the employees thoroughly *reprimanded* by the A-man for buying a PS3 for his personal use.

That takes character.
We shall see.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Squozen

Well, that's why you rent a camera........

I know that.
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[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Well, from the video it at least APPEARS edible

However when you're making the crust, it's a little known secret that the local water supply chemistry is amazingly important. Somoene stole a Philly restaurant's recipe and sold it to a place down in North Carolina for $150,000, but they couldn't replicate it because the water was different

So the question becomes how he's balanced for the intricicies of LA's water, whether he can equal the heavy mineral content present around here

Geez Wicky, I didn’t realize that you were such a connoisseur of the ingredients of pizza.

The freakin water? ………..are you serious?
Damn, next thing you know we’ll be talking about the best beer to drink while watching a Blu-ray movie and I suspect some other mod or member here will chime in and tell us where the best water in the world comes from for his favorite brew.

I now feel out of my league on the pizza thing.
All I know is that the polar bars in the world aint happy because there’s too much water now and not enough ice. Plus, the best hot dogs you can get at any ballpark in America are Dodger Dogs in L.A.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Ben

I'd love to hear about it!

Gotta run.
Later.

I'll put it on my *post list* of things to do.

[juanleche]

Originally Posted by johnnyd1

New Yorks Lower East side pizza is THE Best ! case closed !!!

I guess you don't count Brooklyn to be New York?

Home to the 2 of the 3 ORIGINAL New York Pizza families shops. Grimaldies under the Brooklyn Bridge (the orignal Patsy's before the name was sold to a franchise) and Tottonnos in Coney Island. Totonno was originally the chef at Lombardi's supermaket in Manhattan's Little Italy - now Lombardi's Pizza. There is a dispute between the families as to who can claim the orignal pizza, non the less, Totonno moved out to Coney island, later that also became a franchise, but the original shop maintains its integrity - you can find many famous people trecking out to the little store front with 3 tables. If you like crispy crust go to Totonno's, for more sauce go to Lombardie's.

BTW THe reason these original shops have such a loyal following is that they continue to use Coal ovens whixh have become rare amoung pizzerias. The coal burns hotter and gives the crust a distinct flavor. Others will also point out that New York's water makes everything taste that much better.

Back to Brooklyn, the hands down best Sicilian Pizza (square slice) as per many many ratings and reviews, comes out of L&B Spumoni Gardens in Gravesend. You can't be a true New Yorker without eating this before you pass.

[juanleche]

Originally Posted by IMind

I beg to differ (slightly). While New York and Philly has some good pizza... the pizza on the shoreline of Connecticut is the best. While New Haven is the most famous in Connecticut for pizza with Sally's and Pepe's... just about any small pizza shop on the shoreline of CT makes an awesome pizza.

I dare you make this claim in Brooklyn

[Winn]

One of the local pizza places here in NC imports tap water from NY. No joke.