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#441 |
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Blu-ray.com review is up: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Enter.../57334/#Review
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A couple of things I noticed comparing the caps I just loaded:
I think the slight oversaturation of reds is apparent (cap 2). The blonde woman's sweater totally changes color in the new transfer (cap 4). Another issue is contrast (caps 1 and 5) -- the new one looks a little dark. I see detail being lost to that contrast / softness in some caps (5 - Bruce's sleeve, 6 - Bruce's abs). |
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So the review is up, and I must respectfully disagree with our man, Kenneth Brown:
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Detail "more satisfying", edge definition "more precise"? I have yet to watch this in motion, of course, but looking at the screencaps I would say we are not seeing the same discs. Just take a look at that shot of Lee standing on te cemetery and compare the old release with the new one. Not only contrast is boosted (oh, that bane of SO many BD's transfers!) with highlights clearly overblown, but the new transfer looks like something taken from some Tarantino & Rodriguez grindhouse homage, as if projected on some sticky and noisy projector with a dim and dirty bulb. The new transfer is the definition of "smeary", with the distinct blurry look that you would get from a poor print of a telecine transfer. Could that be it? Are we looking at a telecine job –and not a very good one at that– instead of a proper digital scan? I wouldn't be so fast as to consider this as "subjective complaints" to be dismissed, and it certainly doesn't look like the natural softness to be expected on a faithful transfer of this film. And looking at how most of the grain has been turned into chroma noise, I wouldn't call the DNR applied here "judicious", either. "Objectively" the "definitive presentation of Enter the Dragon"? Not by a long shot. Last edited by Roy Batty; 06-11-2013 at 09:05 AM. |
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Your other criticisms are up for debate, but I would be shocked if DNR was used on this. This is a very grainy transfer. Soft, yes. Smeary, no.
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![]() Can't wait to see a few other reviews. They should pop up soon. |
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Besides, the jaggies from the old transfer are history. Huzzah! |
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Of course, I have no way to know for sure whithout a back-to-back comparison with a film print that had miraculously remained frozen in time with no color degradation, but the color palette on the previous release looks much more spot-on to me as the one I would expect on this movie. It maybe showed a little too cold, blue-ish push, but preferable to the orangey cast on the new release. And I really find it very hard to believe that the difference in detail on these two screencaps old transfer new transfer stems only from the artificial sharpness applied to the old one. If the second shot, the one from the remaster, really were a faithful representation of the image on the film, you would never be able to make it look like the first one, no matter how much sharpening you applied to it (not without introducing way more artifacts that are not present there). Last edited by Roy Batty; 06-11-2013 at 10:39 AM. |
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Well, we've got no frame of reference either way. Those colours did actually exist before the modern trend for blue and orange took hold. IMO the gaudy colour seems like a nice fit for the movie's cheesy comic book style. And I'll take that every day of the week and twice on sundays just to get rid of those damned jaggies. (Heck, if the new Blu-ray turned out to be as bad as the incorrect caps suggested, then I'd have had no problems ignoring both Blu-rays and going back to the DVD for future viewings.)
As it is, I'm very much looking forward to getting the new Blu-ray. |
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[Show spoiler] [Show spoiler] That's not grain but chroma noise. Last edited by Roy Batty; 06-11-2013 at 11:43 AM. |
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The German blu is coming out in 10 days and it's only €12.99. No special packaging, just a plain ol' keep case. It's the exact same disc as the one in the US.
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