Zack Snyder's 'Man of Steel'

[rikraq]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

As for the other power:

[Show spoiler]I believe we see it when Clark first entered the Kryptonian scout ship/Fortress of Solitude. His eye were lit up in the dark. Basically it makes sense that if he has x-ray vision, as well as telescopic and microscopic vision, that he has pretty damn good eyesight, so it's a natural for him to have night vision. They just don't usually show it, because he's normally never shown at night, like Batman is.

A friend told me it sounded like

[Show spoiler]infrared vision

[thunderforce]

[Show spoiler]One thing that was odd , Zod who on earth was a super being , wanted to change the earth until he had no powers at all . I think I would just keep earth the way it was and stay a super being .

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by thunderforce

[Show spoiler]One thing that was odd , Zod who on earth was a super being , wanted to change the earth until he had no powers at all . I think I would just keep earth the way it was and stay a super being .

he was groomed since birth to be a protector of Krypton, that's all that mattered to him

[Abdrewes]

Armond White is a fan:

http://cityarts.info/2013/06/14/serious-fun/

[Joeinar]

Originally Posted by bluearth

Have you seen a Superman The Animated Series fight? 10 skyscrapers can be destroyed in a 2 minute fight.

More character development and more quiet scenes doesnt automatically make a good or better movie. I just got back from Fast 6, and that point was hammered home.



Wow, dragging Man of Steel down to the level of Transformers? Thats going too far.

As for those who say

[Show spoiler]Superman never kills, did it bother you when Christopher Reeves killed Zod in Superman II, Lois killed Faora in Superman II, and Brand Routh pretty much killed several Lex Luthor Henchman when raising the island in Superman Returns?

Iron Man 3 was very humerous. Especially that scene. How did that turn out?

as for the info in your spoiler, you're wrong, there is a deleted scene of them (Zod, Ursa, and Non) being taken away by the police.

Iron Man 3 had Robert Downey Jr whose charisma more than makes up for some of the films shortcoming. Man of Steel sadly had nothing like that to fall back on.

also for the discussion of the music, Zimmer scores is awful. that's no surprise, his scores are often junk. Even if he was halfway as talented as he is popular to those directors who don't get film music, making a score to rival William's Superman score is beyond his ability.

[blonde_devil]

Originally Posted by bluearth

Alot of people are saying "This is not the Superman I know"

Well the Batman I know doesnt look like hes 28, drives a Lamborghini as a personal car with a tank as a batmobile, and has 4 blondes hanging onto his shoulders like in Batman Begins. Somehow people were fine with that. Eventually I was able to overlook it as just a new interpretation of the character. Hopefully others can do the same here.

Some nice touches to the movie I think many overlooked

[Show spoiler]Notice how many times he bled in the movie (on the Krypton ship, after the Krypton machine attacked him) and showed fear (Kryptons coming to pick him up, walking to fight Faora). He may be super powerful, but those touches brought him down to earth

that's the one thing I had to tell my sister - Superman has been reinvented so many times and everytime he is, there are changes so it isn't going to be the same as you remember. I mean, I think people would be disappointed if we got a "true" Superman movies that went back to the roots as you would lose so many things that people just take for granted now(a Superman who can't fly?).

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by Joeinar

also for the discussion of the music, Zimmer scores is awful. that's no surprise, his scores are often junk. Even if he was halfway as talented as he is popular to those directors who don't get film music, making a score to rival William's Superman score is beyond his ability.

Link to your IMDB page please? I'd like to compare your accomplishments in the industry to Zimmer's before I make a comment.

[BStecke]

Ah, the old "you can't comment because you don't do the same job" argument.

I work with dozens of people who suck at their jobs. They're still considered professionals.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Another_Dude

Link to your IMDB page please? I'd like to compare your accomplishments in the industry to Zimmer's before I make a comment.

some one doesnt' have to be acclaimed to be good. look at reality shows. popular as all getout but so devoid of anything even remotely LOOKING like quality that it's not even funny.

[jetjaguar4]

Originally Posted by Darkstream

Hmmm... that's an interesting theory about

[Show spoiler] telekenesis, but I just thought that when Zod took his armor off and was floating/levitating, that the armor was still surrounded by his super-aura. I'm not sure, but I believe it was writer/artist John Byrne who came up with the idea that Superman emmits a bio-electric aura from his body, which almost acts as a forcefield and enables his costume (which at one time was just normal earthbased fabric) to become almost as bulletproof as his own body since it was so tight and in close proximity to his skin, especially around his chest. Which is why his costume doesn't get holes in it much when he's shot at.

But you may be onto something, because I think that the telekinesis is somehow related to the aura -- Either way, that may indeed be one of the two powers that was never seen in a Superman movie before.

As for the other power...

[Show spoiler]I believe we see it when Clark first entered the Kryptonian scout ship/Fortress of Solitude. His eye were lit up in the dark. Basically it makes sense that if he has x-ray vision, as well as telescopic and microscopic vision, that he has pretty damn good eyesight, so it's a natural for him to have night vision. They just don't usually show it, because he's normally never shown at night, like Batman is.

[Show spoiler]I believe he was just making a cave-like entrance using his heat vision.

[Tony208]

Zimmer scores sound too similar

[mrpink134]

Zimmer won a academy award, Zimmer is awesome! Backdraft was made in the 1991 and I can still remember it like it was yesterday. IMO his MOS score is better than the Superman score

[BStecke]

John Williams has 5 Academy Awards.

Not that that makes a big difference.

[toddly6666]

Originally Posted by Joeinar

as for the info in your spoiler, you're wrong, there is a deleted scene of them (Zod, Ursa, and Non) being taken away by the police.

That's a deleted scene...meaning, it doesn't exist in the film. Superman let three villains die in Superman 2.

[Another_Dude]

Originally Posted by wormraper

some one doesnt' have to be acclaimed to be good. look at reality shows. popular as all getout but so devoid of anything even remotely LOOKING like quality that it's not even funny.

Right, but a guy with 9 Oscar nominations and a win isn't the same thing as a reality tv show. If you don't like his work that's fine, but to say Zimmer's scores are often junk is to ignore years of clear evidence to the contrary.

And before someone gets clever and mentions where the Oscars got it wrong once or twice, he has 10 Golden Globe noms with two wins there. The people that do this for a living have said over and over and over that his work is the opposite of "junk".

Therefore, if someone wants to disagree with overwhelming evidence and peer accolades when making a statement I suppose it would be fair to ask what their qualifications or experiences might be to know what value that opinion should hold.

[BStecke]

I think it's obvious that it's just like, an opinion, man.

[Spyder-Dan]

Click on these links for "easter eggs" but they contain spoilers.

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/man...ter-eggs/12574

http://www.movies.com/movie-news/ult...e-part-2/12575

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Another_Dude

Link to your IMDB page please? I'd like to compare your accomplishments in the industry to Zimmer's before I make a comment.

Better yet, compare Zimmer's page to John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, John Barry, Elmer Bernstein, and dozens of other composers (even John Ottman) who actually made MUSIC and not synthetic background noise for films like this.

Hearing someone think this music is better to me is like hearing someone say Lil' Wayne is a better singer than Pavarotti.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Better yet, compare Zimmer's page to John Williams, Jerry Goldsmith, James Horner, John Barry, Elmer Bernstein, and dozens of other composers (even John Ottman) who actually made MUSIC and not synthetic background noise for films like this.

Hearing someone think this music is better to me is like hearing someone say Lil' Wayne is a better singer than Pavarotti.

We like what we like, dude.

I can acknowledge that Williams' score for Superman the Movie is a masterwork. No doubt about that. I can also acknowledge how Zimmer's score for Man of Steel makes me feel...and I think this score is quite nice. It fits the film beautifully.

[Mandalorian]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

We like what we like, dude.

I can acknowledge that Williams' score for Superman the Movie is a masterwork. No doubt about that. I can also acknowledge how Zimmer's score for Man of Steel makes me feel...and I think this score is quite nice. It fits the film beautifully.

I'm surprised that this is even an argument. One of the first things in the trailers that always got me amped for the film was HZ's swelling score. It defines 'epic'.