Avengers: Infinity War (2018)

[Batman1980]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

Personally if they made The Hulk the villain who fights against The Avengers that would ruin the first film for me. Everybody enjoyed Mark Ruffalos portrayal of Dr. Banner and for Marvel to get rid of him would be ridiculous. I loved the team aspect of The Avengers and think it should stay that way,where they are all fighting together not against each other. That would destroy all the good work from the first film and would contradict The Avengers ethos. I don't read the comics but surely there are other evil villains in the comic book world of The Avengers that could be used.

Making the Hulk a villain or enemy is a cop out. They can make it an animated movie like they did with Planet Hulk but for the love of all that is holy and decent I don't want them ruining the live action films!

It just sounds like a really bad idea. Just my opinion.

LOL Hulk isn't a villain, he's an anti-hero, kinda like Wolverine. I have heard he's lost his powers recently and Thunderbolt Ross is the Red Hulk now, wonder if that will factor into the films eventually.

[Blu-Generation]

For comic fans, I think World War Hulk may sell well for The Avengers 3, but for regular moviegoer/MCU fans, maybe the Civil War story may sell better...

But who knows, I'll go either way with Marvel. It's their property, they know their property and they've done a great job with it so far. So i'm not worried.

[Blu-Benny]

Let’s not forget…..they’ll have introduced us to a “space saga” type story w/Guardians of the Galaxy and possibly even some in Avengers 2 by the time a new Hulk movie comes around.

They could always work in a way to turn Hulk into an outcast in Avengers 2.

[Clark Kent]

If they could properly bring the entire Planet Hulk storyline from the comics without alterations, I would be all for this movie. But Marvel doesn't have the film rights to Silver Surfer, a key character in the comic book version.

I was really hoping for an Ultron/Vision story in Avengers 2.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

If they could properly bring the entire Planet Hulk storyline from the comics without alterations, I would be all for this movie. But Marvel doesn't have the film rights to Silver Surfer, a key character in the comic book version.

I was really hoping for an Ultron/Vision story in Avengers 2.

I wouldn't the planet hulk movie on netflix is trash. Keep'm on earth!

[tonystark]

I don't think this will really happen, but who really knows right now. I remember last year sometime before Whedon even signed on for A2 that Kevin Feige thought Civil War would be a possibility for A3. So you know they are brain storming many ideas. Personally for the third movie I would love Ultron for the villain and introduce the Vision. Being as Ant Man will start Phase 3, that would be the perfect way to end Phase 3. Planet Hulk would be cool, if done correctly. I loved the Planet Hulk storyline, as it stands as one of my favorite Hulk stories ever. But World War Hulk was a bit of a let down. I think if they do PH, which seems tricky after John Carter bombed (I loved JC btw), they should just do World War Hulk as a Hulk sequel and not an Avengers movie.

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

If they could properly bring the entire Planet Hulk storyline from the comics without alterations, I would be all for this movie. But Marvel doesn't have the film rights to Silver Surfer, a key character in the comic book version.

I was really hoping for an Ultron/Vision story in Avengers 2.

We don't know anything about 'The Avengers 2' yet, so Ultron cools still factor into the second. Who knows. : shrug:

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Bourne1886

It just sounds like a really bad idea. Just my opinion.

My opinion, too - works for comics, where they have to fill issues every month, and people who read comics can appreciate out-there concepts. But that doesn't work as a global cinema entry for the Hulk. I really don't understand why filmmakers - other than Whedon - don't get the core idea behind The Incredible Hulk. Nice guy, scientist, suffers tragedy, turns into a giant monster when pushed too far and provoked, and he's now searching for a cure...what more do you need? Give people what they want. If they wanted to make a Superman movie, would they make one where he's banished to another planet and has to lead an uprising of the natives? Who would want to see that? How about Spider Man locked at the bottom of the ocean in an underwater lab for the whole movie? Or maybe Thor struggling to get a Senate bill passed by the House?

[Nelfien]

Have they not made several hulk movies that followed that logic? I go mad, I turn into hulk. Look for cure etc. they haven't done as well as some have hoped. I would love to see planet hulk and world war hulk. We don't need the same old stuff. Lets explore! Stay on earth? Meh. They haven't failed us yet, and if this is the direction they want to go, then I say do it! I would love to have to choose between the anti hero and the avengers. Just my opinion.

[Esox50]

Originally Posted by Blu-Benny

Let’s not forget…..they’ll have introduced us to a “space saga” type story w/Guardians of the Galaxy and possibly even some in Avengers 2 by the time a new Hulk movie comes around.

They could always work in a way to turn Hulk into an outcast in Avengers 2.

True, but it's also possible that the Box Office returns of the Guardians movie won't be what Marvel is hoping.

I think if they go a little too far into the crazy/geeky comic book realm, they run the risk of losing a lot of the casual fans that have made these movies such a success.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Nelfien

Have they not made several hulk movies that followed that logic? I go mad, I turn into hulk. Look for cure etc.

They've done two movies. One was an apology for the other. Both got sidetracked with goofy subplots. Imagine one with a goofy main plot.

[Walts Ghost]

Robert Downey Jr. in Talks to Return for THE AVENGERS 2 and 3; No Deal Yet for IRON MAN 4

The folks at Marvel are no doubt celebrating the massive opening weekend for Iron Man 3—which currently stands as the second highest of all time behind The Avengers—but the studio still has a very large question mark lingering over its future. With the release of Iron Man 3, star Robert Downey Jr. fulfilled his contract with Marvel. He is not contractually obligated to appear in any more Marvel films, and thus has a rather sizable amount of leverage over Marvel going forward given that he is, to the moviegoing public, the face of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Iron Man is the most recognizable character in Marvel Studios’ roster, and the character is now synonymous with Robert Downey Jr.

As such, everyone has been wondering whether RDJ will be back and if there are any more standalone Iron Man films in the future. The negotiations have now begun, and things are, well, a bit complicated. Hit the jump for much more.

The folks over at Heat Vision report that Downey and his wife/producing partner Susan Downey put together a dinner on May 6th that included Marvel Studios chief Kevin Feige, Disney Studios head Alan Horn, and Iron Man 3 director Shane Black. While the dinner served as a celebration for the success of Iron Man 3, it also kicked off the renegotiation phase for Downey and Marvel.

Apparently Downey has entered negotiations to reprise his role as Tony Stark in The Avengers 2 and The Avengers 3, but the prospect of Iron Man 4 has yet to be discussed. It seemed inevitable that Downey would return for The Avengers 2, given that writer/director Joss Whedon has already been busy developing and scripting the film for a May 2015 release date, but Downey’s future with Marvel beyond that was unclear. The 48-year-old actor appears to be keen on returning in the two ensemble films, for which he wouldn’t have the burden of carrying the entire picture, but Iron Man 4 still remains a major question mark.

The ending of Iron Man 3 very much felt like a period on the Iron Man series instead of a question mark, as the conclusion of the film wrapped up Tony’s character arc that began with the first Iron Man film in 2007. It would be very easy for Downey to walk away from the standalone films at this point, and Kevin Feige has already said in the past that Marvel would not be averse to implementing the James Bond model of having different actors play the same character. However, Iron Man is the most successful film franchise in Marvel’s bag and the studio would likely much rather have an Iron Man 4 starring RDJ in Phase Three than not. As I said, Downey is Iron Man, so it will be tough to sell the franchise to audiences with a new actor in the role.

Marvel isn’t exactly known for being generous when it comes to contract negotiations with actors, and negotiations for all of the Marvel stalwarts—Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Scarlett Johansson, and Mark Ruffalo—have apparently become quite heated as of late, given that they didn’t exactly receive the same hefty $50 million payday as Downey did from the $1.5 billion grossing The Avengers. Heat Vision’s article notes that the studio isn’t averse to threatening recasting, as we’ve already seen them do with Terrence Howard’s Captain Rhodes and Edward Norton’s Hulk, and they apparently used those tactics previously with Gwyneth Paltrow and Chris Evans.

With the sequel to one of the highest grossing films in history on the horizon and a slate of follow-ups to fan-favorite characters in the pipeline (in addition to untested originals like Guardians of the Galaxy, Ant-Man, and Doctor Strange), Marvel is certainly at a turning point. I’ll be interesting to see how things progress moving forward, but it all begins with Downey’s contract. Will he sign on for more Iron Man films or is Iron Man 3 his standalone swan song? Time will tell.

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[Walts Ghost]

Robert Downey Jr. Signs Deal to Appear as Iron Man in ‘The Avengers 2′ and ‘The Avengers 3′

Robert Downey Jr. will be back as Iron Man, but not in an Iron Man movie. The actor, whose lucrative multi-picture contract with Marvel Studios ended with Iron Man 3, has just signed a two picture deal to appear as the character both The Avengers 2 and The Avengers 3. A potential fourth Iron Man film is not part of the deal, which gives us some major hints at where the Marvel Cinematic Universe is going.

Marvel themselves broke the news, which had been a major topic of discussion since before Iron Man 3 came out. Most recently, this exact scenario was the rumor and now it has come true.

So where does Downey’s deal leave the Marvel Cinematic Universe? Well we now know a fourth Iron Man film is not a part of Phase Three. The character does, however, survive until at least that time. There’s certainly a chance he could cameo somewhere between The Avengers 2 and 3, too. That potential commitment would certainly not be made public.



It also leaves the possible opening for the character to die in The Avengers 3, which would happen in about 2018. Downey himself said he probably only wanted to play the character until he was 50, and that happens in 2015. But apparently, the smaller commitment of not toplining his own sequel made the extension more attractive.

Here’s the full press release from Marvel. What are your thoughts?

Also of note is that last sentence. “New Marvel characters never before seen on the big screen.” Quicksilver will have already been seen on the big screen, right? That only leaves Scarlet Witch so expect more soon.

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[thunderforce]

I think this is going to suck .....If he only does the Avengers movies it means that the next 2 Avengers movies are going to be even more tilted in Iron man's favor . They should call those movies Iron man and the other guys . These movies are supposed to be about the characters but I think RDJ has over grown Iron man and I hope it doesn't start to hurt Marvel's other great characters .

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by thunderforce

I think this is going to suck .....If he only does the Avengers movies it means that the next 2 Avengers movies are going to be even more tilted in Iron man's favor . They should call those movies Iron man and the other guys . These movies are supposed to be about the characters but I think RDJ has over grown Iron man and I hope it doesn't start to hurt Marvel's other great characters .

Isn't it a little early to assume it's going to be bad? We don't know what, or how, this will effect the series, but I highly doubt it'll make the movie tip in Downey, Jr.'s favor. I think we should wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.

[RyanPom]

Many people said Avengers was going to suck cause it had "too many characters", guess that argument went out the window.

[thunderforce]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

Isn't it a little early to assume it's going to be bad? We don't know what, or how, this will effect the series, but I highly doubt it'll make the movie tip in Downey, Jr.'s favor. I think we should wait and see what happens before jumping to conclusions.

I did think that Thor got the short end of the stick in the first Avengers . They mostly used him as the but of jokes , while it may be good for a laugh . The real Thor isn't really someone you want to screw around with . It would be like playing a joke on a god of battle who is the most powerful super hero there is and someone that unlike Superman has no problem killing anyone . I just don't seem smart .

[thunderforce]

Shouldn't we have one thread for the whole MCU and another one for the DCCU or would they get too big ? I see that in the Dr Strange movie he will go up against Dormammu , Karl Mordo and the Mindless ones it sounds like he will have his hands full .

[Walts Ghost]

Originally Posted by thunderforce

I did think that Thor got the short end of the stick in the first Avengers . They mostly used him as the but of jokes , while it may be good for a laugh . The real Thor isn't really someone you want to screw around with . It would be like playing a joke on a god of battle who is the most powerful super hero there is and someone that unlike Superman has no problem killing anyone . I just don't seem smart .

He may have gotten the short end, but he was still very memorable in the film. I thought everyone was used pretty well, all things considered. I think it'll be more balanced in the subsequent films.

[GreenGaijin]

So if Tony Sta- I mean Robert Downey Jr., plays Iron Man in two more Avengers movies. That would mean by the time the third one comes out, he would have owned that character 6 times in the span of 10 years. Not a bad gig at all.