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Old 04-06-2008, 06:14 AM   #1
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i say cannon xl-h1 or if you really want one of the best to get 2k-4k then get a red one camera, surround mics are not used in the industry as most sound effects are added in post production but if you really want one go with holophone or DPA they are some of the best and only

so lets see redone camera for 2k to 4k $20,000
lense set for the redone $15,000-20,000
surround mic $5,000-$10,000
red lcd,charger,vf,drive. about $10,000-15,000

so your total comes to $65,000 for camera and mounted mic

the xl-h1 will still run you $10,000

or you can go consumer and get a 1080p for around $900 but for about the same price i think you would be better doing without the hd and getting a cannon xl1

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Old 04-23-2008, 05:43 PM   #2
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i say cannon xl-h1 or if you really want one of the best to get 2k-4k then get a red one camera, surround mics are not used in the industry as most sound effects are added in post production but if you really want one go with holophone or DPA they are some of the best and only

so lets see redone camera for 2k to 4k $20,000
lense set for the redone $15,000-20,000
surround mic $5,000-$10,000
red lcd,charger,vf,drive. about $10,000-15,000

so your total comes to $65,000 for camera and mounted mic

the xl-h1 will still run you $10,000

or you can go consumer and get a 1080p for around $900 but for about the same price i think you would be better doing without the hd and getting a cannon xl1
not to mention 8 mic pre amps, and A>D audio conversion for 8 inputs and then a DAW or HD Audio recorder synced to the video..
much more expensive than thought..
then you'd need a DAW to mix and edit in post production.

and that's basic.. you'd probably want limiters and such on the 8 mic sources.

Again.. probably best to do a single shotgun mic and then add sound effects and such in post.
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Old 04-23-2008, 06:15 PM   #3
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Professional??? RED1. Camcorders, if that's what you're asking, are not really professional unless your going HD Betacam.
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Red's claim to achieving UHD is a little misleading....VERY misleading, but I am sure they will be one of the first to get there. I will take on of those Epic cameras though.
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Red is just confusing in general - http://www.reduser.net/forum/showpos...0&postcount=16
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Red smashes anything the HVX or EX1 can produce. The Redone is like the Viper and Genesis being used in Hollywood now on pictures being shot on HD, rivals that quality for $17500 base price for the camera compared to $250,000+ for the others listed.

Red is raising the bar for quality as well as lowering the hefty price tag to put these wonderful cameras in the hands of filmmakers. Being a film student, I love what the Redone produces and can't wait to see what the Epic and the Scarlet have to offer.

Btw, Scarlet is going to blow the HVX and EX1 out of the water, and it'll be 1/2 the price tag (3K).
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Red smashes anything the HVX or EX1 can produce. The Redone is like the Viper and Genesis being used in Hollywood now on pictures being shot on HD, rivals that quality for $17500 base price for the camera compared to $250,000+ for the others listed.

Red is raising the bar for quality as well as lowering the hefty price tag to put these wonderful cameras in the hands of filmmakers. Being a film student, I love what the Redone produces and can't wait to see what the Epic and the Scarlet have to offer.

Btw, Scarlet is going to blow the HVX and EX1 out of the water, and it'll be 1/2 the price tag (3K).
Your kinda correct apart from i dont think the red one should be compared to the HVX or the EX1, their different price ranges and types of cameras.

The only beef i have for Red is that they seem to be a flakey company as in products are always delayed and often not available when they do get fully released.

They need to get a big sponsor / partnership to help them get their products into the mainstream and really start trying to compete with Sony, Panasonic, Canon etc.
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Aygie, I don't think anyone on here who recommends Red have even seen one and I don't think they're experienced in production. For a lot of them, it's all about the technical specs on paper. You are right, the Red is a totally different market. I think of it as a digital cinema replacement for the Super 16 or something. The EX1, EX3, HVX200 is professional digital HD video. It will also do Digital Cinema with the 24p, but it's aimed at video production markets. I think they're going to be a lot more flexible.
The people who drop the link to the Red One website everytime someone wants info on CAMCORDERS, are the same people who recommend a Nikon D2X DSLR when someone asks people to recommend a nice simple snapshot camera. I am amazed nobody has recommended a Panavision Genesis!
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