4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Hey now, i wasn't still expecting a complete photochemical workflow(i guess i'll always have Christopher Nolan for that......for now). I wish. But still having film around is good enough for me. Going through a DI and all....

Depends, despite shooting on film, ultimately you can easily end up with color enhancements like that *Summer Blockbuster* look thoroughly enjoyed by the movie-watching population-at-large (you know, those folks that CNET video gururs often like to describe as sitting at “normal viewing distances” from their TVs at home, as if that’s some sort of automatic qualifier for cinematic good taste – I think Steed refers to them as “sheep”).

Teal haters and lovers scroll down to the tutorial entitled “The Summer Blockbuster 01“ on blackmagicuser which starts off with 3 examples of motion pictures shot on film –
http://www.blackmagicuser.net/topic/...ls-on-the-web/

[Penton-Man]

b.t.w. – to any aspiring DI colorists out there reading/watching, this ^ method works best for him (Juan) when using Resolve. Don’t consider it to be any defacto standard guideline as to the best method for use on all color grading systems.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

EDIT- Found an interesting discussion-

http://www.cinematography.com/index.php?showtopic=60367

Kind of reminds me of reminiscing about when dinosaurs roamed the earth.

[Penton-Man]

With Labor Day weekend fast approaching, might I pass on a bit of advice to those 4K impulse buyers amongst us (especially those who didn’t appreciate my hint from 5 days ago on 8/26 located here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...mi#post8033648 ).

Anyway, like the Professor says…”If you're someone who tends to overspend, or you're kind of an extreme person, then maybe you ought to consider shopping in high heels” -
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...-spending.html

Hey, thank the vestibular system in the petrous portion of your temporal bones. I only ask that you wear Sergio Rossi or Christian Louboutin and no knock-offs please.

[joie]

From a recent LA Times article about what drive-in theaters are faced with:

Hollywood is expected to stop distributing 35-millimeter film prints to all U.S. theaters later this year. The vast majority of indoor theaters — hardtops, in drive-in lingo — have already converted to digital projectors, but 90% of drive-ins have not, according to an industry trade group. Conversion costs of $70,000 or more per screen could be too expensive for many drive-ins.

http://articles.latimes.com/2013/jan...gital-20130120

Sidney Lumet went digital for 2007's Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. In the Blu-ray's supplements, he talks about why digital is superior (from a filmmakers perspective). He was an old guy in '07, too, and no Luddite.

[Penton-Man]

Just emailed to me actually from a relative who lives in Chicago….http://www.nbcchicago.com/entertainm...220564821.html

Shot on what, you ask? Well, not a dinosaur but a Dragon -
http://vimeo.com/73446258

[THXGuru]

Originally Posted by joie

Sidney Lumet went digital for 2007's Before the Devil Knows You're Dead. In the Blu-ray's supplements, he talks about why digital is superior (from a filmmakers perspective). He was an old guy in '07, too, and no Luddite.

It must of been so superior as he never shot a movie again after that movie. Then he bites the bullet...

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Just emailed to me actually from a relative who lives in Chicago….http://www.nbcchicago.com/entertainm...220564821.html

Shot on what, you ask? Well, not a dinosaur but a Dragon -
http://vimeo.com/73446258

I was hoping he would shoot it the same like all the rest. Or at least be like TF3 and only use a little bit of digital shots. Oh well.

And for the record, dinosaurs are actually real. Unlike imaginary dragons.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

...And for the record, dinosaurs are actually real. Unlike imaginary dragons.

Sap, that’s harsh, you lecturing me about animals. For the record, I find it amusing that none of the contributors on that History thread in the cinematography.com forum which you linked to on the last page would/could answer the simple question about “Technicolor Hollywood’s” film lab.

Shows they’re not shooting on film…or else they could quickly confirm something which is pretty much common celluloid processing knowledge. My advice, if they have any, send their o-neg to FotoKem and unless they’re preparing themselves to teach the History of Cinema at some local community college, instead of spending their time thinking and writing about photochemical workflows, Technicolor and film processing, that they learn something a little more practical like the benefits of Technicolor DP Lights or FrameLogic.

Anyway, have a safe holiday weekend. Sap, you know I luv ya ….unless of course the Yankees make it to the ALCS over the Orioles. Now I must think of a YouTube clip to pleasantly end the work week on. One moment, searching…..

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...soccer, rugby, baseball flick, what's next?

Colorful, festive kinesiology captured and hopefully delivered to you someday in 4K…

CARNAVAL 2013 em 4K - PÉROLA DO ATLÂNTICO - YouTube

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

I want to see the next world cup in 4k.

Until then, how ‘bout the Premier League ? -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-TV-first.html
https://twitter.com/james_clement/st...731648/photo/1

[saprano]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sap, that’s harsh, you lecturing me about animals. For the record, I find it amusing that none of the contributors on that History thread in the cinematography.com forum which you linked to on the last page would/could answer the simple question about “Technicolor Hollywood’s” film lab.

Shows they’re not shooting on film…or else they could quickly confirm something which is pretty much common celluloid processing knowledge. My advice, if they have any, send their o-neg to FotoKem and unless they’re preparing themselves to teach the History of Cinema at some local community college, instead of spending their time thinking and writing about photochemical workflows, Technicolor and film processing, that they learn something a little more practical like the benefits of Technicolor DP Lights or FrameLogic.

Anyway, have a safe holiday weekend. Sap, you know I luv ya ….unless of course the Yankees make it to the ALCS over the Orioles. Now I must think of a YouTube clip to pleasantly end the work week on. One moment, searching…..

Don't know what any of this means or how you came to such conclusions based off nobody answering a certain question from a 2 page thread. There could be many reasons why it wasn't answered. You jumped the gun buddy boy.

So much for being harsh. You have a very nice weekend too.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

With Labor Day weekend fast approaching, might I pass on a bit of advice to those 4K impulse buyers amongst us (especially those who didn’t appreciate my hint from 5 days ago on 8/26 located here - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...mi#post8033648 )...

^
To be clear, no, I’m not referring to member OliverK, I’m talking about HDMI 2.0 and ich bin ein Berliner.

[tob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Until then, how ‘bout the Premier League ? -
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technolog...-TV-first.html
https://twitter.com/james_clement/st...731648/photo/1

Thanks penton

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Michael Harper

Possibly a stupid question but can we still watch these new mastered in 4K Blu-ray's if you haven't got a 4K TV? Or so you need a 4K Tv to view them?

Michael, in case you are interested (at least maybe not right now, but perhaps sometime as a future purchase), the following is a primer on 4K (UHD-1) and 8K (UHD-2) television.

Much is old hat for dedicated long term readers of this thread except perhaps for those who thought that 22.2 multichannel audio required speakers situated all over your home theater (like in a commercial theater). Not necessarily, as there is a more friendly solution, see the clip around the 3 min. mark (b.t.w. don’t discount the technical acumen of the fellow presenting due to his tie, because, for those unaware, the man is no technical slouch http://www.ibc.org/page.cfm/Action=V...VisitorID=6930 )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAVTX...ature=youtu.be

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

Thanks penton

You’re welcome.
Let’s not leave out acknowledging Sky Deutschland for our Bundesliga followers - http://www.digitaltveurope.net/92212...via-satellite/

[Derb]

Sorry, thought this was about 4K movie releases..

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[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by saprano

Don't know what any of this means...

Took me a little while to find an article that I felt you could understand as to the relevance of learning about more modern workflows in this day-and-age for active filmmakers, esp. DPs. Try to open a new window, copy and post this pdf link….technicolor.com/download/file/fid/4142‎
as you probably can’t link to it directly. Make sure you add www. to the beginning of the link.

Additionally, I “meant” that Technicolor Hollywood no longer processes negative – they should try FotoKem if indeed they (or anyone else in the L.A. area) still shoot film....and in some parts of the world, there are no film labs left, period. Ergo, like reminiscing about dinosaurs.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Derb

Sorry, thought this was about 4K movie releases..

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Don’t feel sorry as it’s not your fault. The thread started about two years ago, when there was little or any recognition of ‘4K movie releases’ by the general public or the membership-at-large based upon a link with entries which was woefully incomplete (and in some cases, incorrect). Since then, it has evolved more or less into a *multi-purpose greater than 1080p resolution thread* with a basic infrastructure related to 4K. Sometimes we may go a little off-topic but, I think no more than the typical chit-chat off-topic in other threads on all A/V forums and certainly not full of inaccurate information, posted as fact, or 2 cent speculative noise.

In fairness, I doubt there is any other single resource thread anywhere on the internet which accurately includes a more comprehensive collection of information on ‘4K movies’ related to their encoding, distribution (even with exact file sizes) or projection; although there are nuggets scattered about in other threads, for instance, like 4 in a row starting here…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ed#post7545949

It is what it is. In fact, someday when I get the time I plan on discussing why people older than about 60 years old don’t see as well as younger folks, despite each age group having the same visual acuity by Snellen (20/20 or better). So, if any are having trouble with the *tangents* in this thread and haven’t departed by now for more authoritative ‘4K movie release’ threads, I would most assuredly leave when I do a random post on reduced sampling efficiency causing degraded hyperacuity in our senior membership....or else close your eyes.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

hyperacuity

Context…Sean (McCarthy, Ph.D) at the ‘Display Technologies of the Future’ panel from the recent NAB2013 ( http://nab13.mapyourshow.com/5_0/ses...ssionID=1AAAC7 ) very briefly basically describes the part of the human visual system to which I refer (and its application to 4K viewing by consumers), at about the 38 min. mark here…

http://link.brightcove.com/services/...=2284647111001