Batman animated movies

[Scarface32]

So here are a few topics/questions, which should provide a rather lively discussion.

Topic One:
I gave Superman/Batman: Public Enemies a try after good reviews on Amazon, but didn't care for it that much. Mainly because there was too much Superman and not enough Batman. It felt like Batman was just thrown in as a last minute decision.
Question One:
Based on my assessment of Public Enemies are there any Superman/Batman titles you'd think I'd enjoy and should check out?

Topic Two:
This year following the release of the Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, James Tucker replaced Bruce Timm as DC animation supervising producer
Question Two:
With Bruce Timm gone, do you think there will be any future titles to the DC Universe Original Animated Movies that are as good as the previous titles? I heard Tucker was going to make all original stories, rather than animate already published comics.

Topic Three:
Remember how awesome Batman: Mask of Phantasm was? Or how awesome Batman: The Animated Series and Batman Beyond were?
Question Three:
Does anyone know when these titles are coming to Blu-ray Disc? I have Mask of Phantasm on VHS and the Batman shows on DVD, but it would be great to give them the BD treatment.

Topic Four:
Other Batman titles I should check out
Question Four:
Here's a picture of the animated titles I already own on Blu-ray. Other than Justice League stuff and Superman stuff, there doesn't seem to be much more in the way of Batman. What would you recommend I try?

[22soultaker]

If you already own all those and like them you will like all the other ones that are out.

[Batmon77]

Topic One:
I gave Superman/Batman: Public Enemies a try after good reviews on Amazon, but didn't care for it that much. Mainly because there was too much Superman and not enough Batman. It felt like Batman was just thrown in as a last minute decision.

Batman wasnt thrown in there, he's part of the original comic. And as many Batman as the focus movies out there, I find nothing wrong with him "supporting"(from your perspective) Superman.

Question One:
Based on my assessment of Public Enemies are there any Superman/Batman titles you'd think I'd enjoy and should check out?

There arent any more World's Finest animated team up films.

Topic Two:
This year following the release of the Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, James Tucker replaced Bruce Timm as DC animation supervising producer
Question Two:
With Bruce Timm gone, do you think there will be any future titles to the DC Universe Original Animated Movies that are as good as the previous titles? I heard Tucker was going to make all original stories, rather than animate already published comics.

Tucker is an excellent director, and its time for a new direction. And yes I think there will be animated project that are "as good" as the Timm regime.
Tucker knows his DC history and Brave & The Bold is his opus to that. And its a switch from the over-used Dark Batman.

Topic Three:
Remember how awesome Batman: Mask of Phantasm was? Or how awesome Batman: The Animated Series and Batman Beyond were?
Question Three:
Does anyone know when these titles are coming to Blu-ray Disc? I have Mask of Phantasm on VHS and the Batman shows on DVD, but it would be great to give them the BD treatment.

The BATS wont get the BD treatment according to TIMM. Google it.

Topic Four:
Other Batman titles I should check out

Under The Red Hood, and every other DC film w/ him in it.....Crisis on Two Earths is a Batman vs Owlman w/in the JL and Crime Syndicate story.

[Race Bannon]

I think most of those DC cartoon releases are underwhelming. But I really enjoyed Justice League: Crisis on Two Earths. I think it's the best of the lot. And Batman plays a pretty significant role in the story.

[HDMe]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

Question One:
Based on my assessment of Public Enemies are there any Superman/Batman titles you'd think I'd enjoy and should check out?

There arent any more World's Finest animated team up films.

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is another "world's finest" team-up and it adapts another story from the same comic series that Public Enemies was adapted from.

I think it was a better story than Public Enemies, and it has Supergirl as well as Wonder Woman too.

[Batmon77]

Batman Year One is underwhelming but its still crucial to Batman's animated history.

Under The Red Hood is very very good, but a little over-rated here.

Gotham Knights is cool w/ duds and bangers.

The Dark Knight Returns is the best of the bunch and essential.

JL: The New Frontier has enough old school Batman in there to satisfy Bat-Cravings.

And if your a Nolan guy.....a derivative is the new Arrow show. Green Arrow is already a DC Batman-esque character in the first place. U just to be willing to sit through the love story/family tv themes.

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by HDMe

Superman/Batman: Apocalypse is another "world's finest" team-up and it adapts another story from the same comic series that Public Enemies was adapted from.

I think it was a better story than Public Enemies, and it has Supergirl as well as Wonder Woman too.

forgot that


I prefer the animation adaptation of McGuinness' style in PE over Apocalypse.

Its more of a SuperGirl story w World Finest in it.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

I can not wait for the day that we finally get Batman Mask of the Phantasm on BD.
To me that is the best batman film ever made period.

As much as I liked Dark Knight Returns, and as much as I like Peter Weller, it was a mistake not have Kevin Conroy play reprise the role of a older Bruce Wayne/Batman

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

As much as I liked Dark Knight Returns, and as much as I like Peter Weller, it was a mistake not have Kevin Conroy play reprise the role of a older Bruce Wayne/Batman

20 years of Conroy. Fans need to graduate.

[Tyger]

No, they don't. Options are fine and especially understandable when they need a young Batman (though I still believe Conroy could pull it off) but I think Conroy would've given a substantially better performance in TDKR. Conroy is the best. You don't "graduate" from the best, you settle for the next best and who wants to do that?

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by Tyger

No, they don't. Options are fine and especially understandable when they need a young Batman (though I still believe Conroy could pull it off) but I think Conroy would've given a substantially better performance in TDKR. Conroy is the best. You don't "graduate" from the best, you settle for the next best and who wants to do that?

batman shoulnt be drawn, portrayed, voiced, etc by the same folks. he versitile. fans should be

fools wanted adam west in the burton film......GRADUATE.

go watch Flashpoint

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

20 years of Conroy. Fans need to graduate.

The fact that he IS the Definitive animated batman.
He has voiced the character for 20 years because he is great at what he does.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

batman shoulnt be drawn, portrayed, voiced, etc by the same folks. he versitile. fans should be

fools wanted adam west in the burton film......GRADUATE.

go watch Flashpoint

Not the same comparison at all.
Adam West obviously wouldnt have been taken seriously as Batman in the 89 version

Kevin Conroy can and still gives the definitive vocal performance as Batman/Bruce Wayne.

But hey your opinon is your own, you might be alone in that opinon but its your rightto think that way..

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by WJWS Channel 13:Amity

The fact that he IS the Definitive animated batman.
He has voiced the character for 20 years because he is great at what he does.

and theres nothing wrong with letting other actors interpret him.

batman was voiced for decades before Conroy. and will be voiced by others.

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by Tyger

No, they don't. Options are fine and especially understandable when they need a young Batman (though I still believe Conroy could pull it off) but I think Conroy would've given a substantially better performance in TDKR. Conroy is the best. You don't "graduate" from the best, you settle for the next best and who wants to do that?

You nailed it perfectly with that post, and there is reason why they keep coming back to him for at least some of the animated films.
the problem is that DC/WB is trying to use a NAME to help sell some of these films(the ones they seem to try and put more prestige on in the past few years) instead of the character its self.
When you watch one of the ones Kevin voices, Kevin Conroy IS Bats/Bruce where as Peter Weller is playing Bats/Bruce the same voice and characterization that he gives any number of his characters he has ever played.
Same goes with some of the other"Names" they have had voice Bats lately.

[Horror_Chase]

Try BATMAN Under The Red Hood, it's fantastic

[WJWS Channel 13:Amity]

Originally Posted by Batmon77

and theres nothing wrong with letting other actors interpret him.

batman was voiced for decades before Conroy. and will be voiced by others.

Didnt say there was, but lately the others they cast are more for "NAME" recognition than providing a new interpretation of the character.

You don't see me criticzing the voices of the other characters in the movies do you?
I mean look at Mark Hamill, he has done joker as long as Conroy has been bats, and most would love to see him still doing the voice regularly, but atleast with Joker in these newer films you are getting voice over actors who atleast come to it with the mind of giving it a new twist or unique characterization

[jebhdb]

To me more than any other actor whether it be voice or live action Kevin Conroy is Batman. Like Tyger stated how to you graduate from the best.

[Batmon77]

the best and definitive is an opinion

[Scarface32]

Peter Weller isn't consistent enough as Batman. In TDKR there are a couple of scenes where his voice was just meh... He did a good job in the majority of the film, but during the scenes on horseback, his voice sounded choppy.