Firefly (series) & Serenity (movie)

[ArnoBD]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

I'm of the same opinion as theprestige85, it's been hyped so much it can only be disappointing. And I'd rather not give up my time just to be disappointed, without even a scrap of reference...

There is a difference as theprestige85 said:

Originally Posted by theprestige85

I liked Serenity, but never saw the series.

Believe me, if you liked "Serenity" then you certainly will like "Firefly".
Especially watch "Serenity" after you have seen "Firefly" and you experience a whole new/different movie !

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by ArnoBD

There is a difference as theprestige85 said:

The way people go on about it, and how Fox screwed it over makes it out to be "The Godfather of television", and it just makes me think it's bound to be disappointing.

Arrested Development is the only overhyped show that clicked immediately for me. I like Community, but they should've given me a disclaimer with regards to the first series and I was even disappointed to the point of being off put by Breaking Bad's first season.

That's why I think it'll be disappointing, people go on about these shows so much, and then they just struggle to deliver with the expectations people give me of them...

[CouncilSpectre]

Of course there's always that danger, but realistically, you'll know within a few episodes whether or not you're going to love it. Firefly, the series, doesn't change much over the course of its run - what you see up front, is largely, what you get, for the rest of the series.

The movie, Serenity, is a good place to start in terms of figuring out whether or not you're going to enjoy the series - the major difference between the movie and the series is obviously budget, spectacle and the amount of action - the series is scaled back, obviously, placing a firmer focus on the characters and how they all fit together, whilst they're pulling jobs.

Guess it depends on what you dug from the movie, if it's the characters, there's little chance that you won't love the series. If it's the action, well you still get that, only on a smaller, television, scale. There was the beginnings of the larger series arc, that was being progressed, but obviously that was curtailed with the show's cancellation. That being said, the movie, accelerates what would have happened over the duration of the series, so you will get a resolution of sorts.

TBH, I hated the sound of the premise when I first heard it. The show had been cancelled by the time I got a hold of the series and started watching it. What a bittersweet experience that was. We watched the entire run in a couple of nights. The movie was a godsend.

At worst, you'll check out a few episodes of a show that you think is overhyped. At best, you'll be indoctrinated into a show that you'll treasure for years to come. It's a risk well worth taking in my book.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

Of course there's always that danger, but realistically, you'll know within a few episodes whether or not you're going to love it. Firefly, the series, doesn't change much over the course of its run - what you see up front, is largely, what you get, for the rest of the series.

The movie, Serenity, is a good place to start in terms of figuring out whether or not you're going to enjoy the series - the major difference between the movie and the series is obviously budget, spectacle and the amount of action - the series is scaled back, obviously, placing a firmer focus on the characters and how they all fit together, whilst they're pulling jobs.

Guess it depends on what you dug from the movie, if it's the characters, there's little chance that you won't love the series. If it's the action, well you still get that, only on a smaller, television, scale. There was the beginnings of the larger series arc, that was being progressed, but obviously that was curtailed with the show's cancellation. That being said, the movie, accelerates what would have happened over the duration of the series, so you will get a resolution of sorts.

TBH, I hated the sound of the premise when I first heard it. The show had been cancelled by the time I got a hold of the series and started watching it. What a bittersweet experience that was. We watched the entire run in a couple of nights. The movie was a godsend.

At worst, you'll check out a few episodes of a show that you think is overhyped. At best, you'll be indoctrinated into a show that you'll treasure for years to come. It's a risk well worth taking in my book.

I'll give the pilot a try, see if it's any good, and if I like it I'll try and catch the film next time it's on ITV...

(Edit: Serenity is on ITV4 next Friday and Sunday, I'll probably give it a look then...)

[CouncilSpectre]

I should just clarify, that when I said that the movie is a good place to start in terms of knowing whether or not you'll enjoy the series, that was from the perspective of "if you've seen the movie and enjoyed it, then you'll most likely enjoy the series". If you haven't seen the series or the movie then I'd definitely recommend watching the series before you watch the movie. The series was cancelled, and whilst the overall series arc had been hinted at and progressed in some small measure, the movie accelerates that arc to a conclusion, hence see the movie before you finish the series and you'll spoil yourself to a degree.

The pilot for the series, is an interesting one - it should be 'Serenity' (the episode of the series, not the movie), but when the show aired, it actually started with 'The Train Job'. for the life of me, I can't remember what running order the BDs go with.

[ArnoBD]

Originally Posted by CouncilSpectre

but when the show aired, it actually started with 'The Train Job'. for the life of me, I can't remember what running order the BDs go with.

Yeah that what wondered me !
When i had a look at imdb there was another episode numbering then on the discs. By your remark i guess now that the following on imdb are on the TV airing episode dates.

Disc 1:
- Serenity part 1 & 2
- The train job
- Bushwacked
- Shindig

Disc 2:
- Safe
- Our Mrs. Reynolds
- Jaynestown
- Out of Gas
- Ariel

Disc 3:
- War Stories
- Trash
- The Message
- Heart of Gold
- Objects in Space

On IMDB:
2002:
s1e01 - The train job
s1e02 - Bushwacked
s1e03 - Our Mrs. Reynolds
s1e04 - Jaynestown
s1e05 - Out of Gas

s1e06 - Shindig
s1e07 - Safe
s1e08 - Ariel
s1e09 - War Stories
s1e10 - Objects in Space

s1e11 - Serenity (pilot)

2003:
s1e12 - Heart of Gold
s1e13 - Trash
s1e14 - The Message

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[CouncilSpectre]

Yep, the disc order is spot on.