Predator 3D Blu-ray (1987) [Region Locked] - Page 47 - Blu-ray Forum

tylergfoster · 10-22-2013, 05:55 PM

Clear confirmation: US release will be a 2-disc set. Disc 1 will be the new transfer, viewable in 3D and 2D, like other 20th Century Fox 3D releases. Disc 2 will be the UHE.

https://twitter.com/FinnAtFox/status/392709934371975168

Spooked · 10-22-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tylergfoster

Clear confirmation: US release will be a 2-disc set. Disc 1 will be the new transfer, viewable in 3D and 2D, like other 20th Century Fox 3D releases. Disc 2 will be the UHE.

https://twitter.com/FinnAtFox/status/392709934371975168

That just seems a bit weird to me. If they're already pressing a new disc, why not just port the extras over from the UHE? I mean why have 2 different transfers of the same movie (one of which is awful) in the same set?

raygendreau · 10-22-2013, 06:10 PM

Once you accept the fact that this release is nothing more than a cost effective way to increase the 3D content, primarily for digital market and secondarily for physical disk market, everything falls into place. 2D/3D same disk. Extras provided in the most economical way by including the UHE.

As far as the transfer is concerned, as I said many pages ago, it is an "all new 3D transfer". Well of course it is since it is the first time it will be released in 3D. To think that they put any more money into this with a new scan is just ridiculous. At best, there may be some marginal improvement, but that's all.

There was never any intent to answer any perceived complaints about the UHE, which were rejected by the studio as unfair. The UHE has been a spectacular sales success since its release in 2010, which validates the studio's position.

UHE is currently #77 in Blu-ray Science Fiction on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...v/2959137011#4

Spooked · 10-22-2013, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by raygendreau

Once you accept the fact that this release is nothing more than a cost effective way to increase the 3D content, primarily for digital and secondarily for physical disk, everything falls into place. 2D/3D same disk. Extras provided in the most economical way by including the UHE.

As far as the transfer is concerned, as I said many pages ago, it is an "all new 3D transfer". Well of course it is since it is the first time it will be released in 3D. To think that they put any more money into this with a new scan is just ridiculous. At best, there may be some marginal improvement, but that's all.

There was never any intent to answer any perceived complaints about the UHE, which were rejected by the studio as unfair. The UHE has been a spectacular sales success since its release in 2010, which validates the studio's position.

Well, sounds like I might save some money then. I'll keep my initial Blu-ray copy and 2-disc DVD set thank you.

raygendreau · 10-22-2013, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooked

Well, sounds like I might save some money then. I'll keep my initial Blu-ray copy and 2-disc DVD set thank you.

Purists and videophiles are not the target market for this release, so your position is no surprise. Purists detest 3D catalog conversions.

HD Goofnut · 10-22-2013, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by raygendreau

Purists and videophiles are not the target market for this release, so your position is no surprise. Purists detest 3D catalog conversions.

For good reason.

jlk5844 · 10-22-2013, 06:58 PM

I can picture it. It would be amazing if this received the same treatment as Jaws. Stunning picture quality and possibly a 7.1 or at least an amazing 5.1 audio track. I want this thing to dominate my living room.

HD Goofnut · 10-22-2013, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jlk5844

I can picture it. It would be amazing if this received the same treatment as Jaws. Stunning picture quality and possibly a 7.1 or at least an amazing 5.1 audio track. I want this thing to dominate my living room.

It already has an amazing 5.1 track.

tylergfoster · 10-22-2013, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Spooked

Well, sounds like I might save some money then. I'll keep my initial Blu-ray copy and 2-disc DVD set thank you.

There is no proof that this is not a new 4K transfer, which Finn has confirmed to at least a couple of people. Only raygendreau is convinced this will be the UHE, converted to 3D.

Cevolution · 10-22-2013, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hd goofnut

it already has an amazing 5.1 track.

+1

Jompa · 10-22-2013, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

It already has an amazing 5.1 track.

Yes

The only thing that could be improved is the dialog. I remember It had some noticeable hiss.

jlk5844 · 10-22-2013, 07:48 PM

Don't own the movie on blu-ray yet. Hoping this one is the definitive version. I wish it would be confirmed that this is a new scan for the 2D version. I don't want nor need the 3D version.

The Rider · 10-22-2013, 11:05 PM

Fox germany says that the 2D disc is the regular Hunter Edition and the 3D disc is in 2D playable.
Its a shame, I for a new 2D disc.

Indiana Jones · 10-22-2013, 11:11 PM

If the 3D disc is playable in 2D and looks as good as Aliens does on BD then that will do me nicely.

HeavyHitter · 10-23-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Spooked

That just seems a bit weird to me. If they're already pressing a new disc, why not just port the extras over from the UHE? I mean why have 2 different transfers of the same movie (one of which is awful) in the same set?

Yeah, something doesn't sound right.

But, maybe the new 2D version is actually pretty grainy and the UHE is for those who hate the grain. That coupled with the 3D satisfies what anyone could want with this movie.

Blu-21 · 10-23-2013, 02:03 AM

If what is reported is true, would the 3D Blu-Ray which is also viewable in 2D on the same disc, work in 2D on actual 2D-only equipment as well? Or is the 2D version only for those who have 3D equipment who can switch back and forth between the 3D and 2D versions?

Blu-21 · 10-23-2013, 05:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bolty

My understanding is that these type of 'unlocked' 3D discs DO play in 2D players.

But until we find out if the 3D disc is a new transfer--I'm not going to get my hopes up.

Well that's good news, because I have a 2D-only Blu-Ray player and a 2D-only HDTV. I do hope that its a new scan too.

mahgin86 · 10-23-2013, 05:49 AM

The 3d movies I have with 2d modes on the same disc won't play in non-3d players.

JoeBuck · 10-23-2013, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by mahgin86

The 3d movies I have with 2d modes on the same disc won't play in non-3d players.

Creature From The Black Lagoon does. If they can do it with that then they can do it with this, and by the sounds of it thats what appears to be the case with this edition.

Indiana Jones · 10-23-2013, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mahgin86

The 3d movies I have with 2d modes on the same disc won't play in non-3d players.

Not all do, the majority are locked and come with a separate 2D disc but there are a few out there (ie Dredd/Underworld Awakening)

10-22-2013, 06:10 PM	#923
raygendreau Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray reviews: 1	Once you accept the fact that this release is nothing more than a cost effective way to increase the 3D content, primarily for digital market and secondarily for physical disk market, everything falls into place. 2D/3D same disk. Extras provided in the most economical way by including the UHE. As far as the transfer is concerned, as I said many pages ago, it is an "all new 3D transfer". Well of course it is since it is the first time it will be released in 3D. To think that they put any more money into this with a new scan is just ridiculous. At best, there may be some marginal improvement, but that's all. There was never any intent to answer any perceived complaints about the UHE, which were rejected by the studio as unfair. The UHE has been a spectacular sales success since its release in 2010, which validates the studio's position. UHE is currently #77 in Blu-ray Science Fiction on Amazon. http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers...v/2959137011#4 Last edited by raygendreau; 10-22-2013 at 06:24 PM.

10-22-2013, 05:55 PM	#921
tylergfoster Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Seattle, WA 4K collection:899 Blu-ray collection:4567 DVD collection:1159 MA collection:2166 Digital collection:1727 iTunes collection:50 Prime collection:3 Trading Score:249	Clear confirmation: US release will be a 2-disc set. Disc 1 will be the new transfer, viewable in 3D and 2D, like other 20th Century Fox 3D releases. Disc 2 will be the UHE. https://twitter.com/FinnAtFox/status/392709934371975168

10-22-2013, 06:58 PM	#927
jlk5844 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Arizona, USA 4K collection:235 Blu-ray collection:2404 DVD collection:463 Digital collection:3 Trading Score:95	I can picture it. It would be amazing if this received the same treatment as Jaws. Stunning picture quality and possibly a 7.1 or at least an amazing 5.1 audio track. I want this thing to dominate my living room.

10-22-2013, 07:48 PM	#932
jlk5844 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011 Location:Arizona, USA 4K collection:235 Blu-ray collection:2404 DVD collection:463 Digital collection:3 Trading Score:95	Don't own the movie on blu-ray yet. Hoping this one is the definitive version. I wish it would be confirmed that this is a new scan for the 2D version. I don't want nor need the 3D version.

10-22-2013, 11:05 PM	#933
The Rider Special Member Member since:Dec 2012	Fox germany says that the 2D disc is the regular Hunter Edition and the 3D disc is in 2D playable. Its a shame, I for a new 2D disc.

10-22-2013, 11:11 PM	#934
Indiana Jones Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Bristol, England 4K collection:7 Blu-ray collection:17 Trading Score:42	If the 3D disc is playable in 2D and looks as good as Aliens does on BD then that will do me nicely.

10-23-2013, 02:03 AM	#936
Blu-21 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Australia Blu-ray collection:67 Blu-ray reviews:1	If what is reported is true, would the 3D Blu-Ray which is also viewable in 2D on the same disc, work in 2D on actual 2D-only equipment as well? Or is the 2D version only for those who have 3D equipment who can switch back and forth between the 3D and 2D versions?

10-23-2013, 05:49 AM	#938
mahgin86 Active Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2012 4K collection:186 Blu-ray collection:1043 DVD collection:28 Trading Score:3	The 3d movies I have with 2d modes on the same disc won't play in non-3d players.

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