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Old 10-26-2013, 07:04 AM   #1781
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Do you think that the 2D (Left Eye) version on the 3D discs is visibly higher quality compared to the 2D only version?
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:13 AM   #1782
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Just locked down a preorder. Anyone know who is producing the statue?
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:49 AM   #1783
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I remember seeing the TV commercial for Bakshi's Lord of the Rings in the 70's and knew I wanted to know more. It wasn't till I was 8 that my mother bought me a box set of the paper backs.

I have read these books maybe 20 times in my 40 years. I have never been interested in any of the books that came after, so I was a bit surprised at all the things that Jackson put in the movie that were not in the book. I liked the movie a lot but felt that this book would be the easiest to adapt, especially after the changes that were made to LOTR.

I think that if they had stayed closer to the book, people might not have been as set back by the different tone in this movie. Also, two 3 1/2 hour movies certainly would have been enough. But 3 almost 3 hour movies for a short children's book that doesn't even have the complexities and themes of the other books is just ridiculous.

I for one am glad that Viggo said no to returning. This feels even more like a cash grab by all involved, and doesn't honor the work, the way the others did.

I am all for progressing technology but I really feel the whole 48fps stuff ruined the feel to this. Can't use models for architecture...it looks too fake, the overuse of CGI on principle characters instead of practical effects like the other movies...the list goes on. Jackson has become more reliant on computer tech with each movie after LOTR...it is almost laughable. Some people just don't think before putting things to use. He has out-Lucased Lucas himself.

I remember when they were previewing footage of the Hobbit in HFR theatres. People were saying how fake the sets look. The best effects you don't even notice. And I think that's what is lost on most modern filmmakers. Cameron, Lucas, Jackson, Bay, are by far the poster boys for too much is never enough. It is like they forgot what it was like to have a budget. Studios too are to blame. Lucas, Cameron, Jackson come from EFX backgrounds and knew how to push practical effects at reasonable cost. Heck...two of them were either founder, or co-founder of major effects studios in the 70's and 80's. Yet in their quest for continued one upmanship pushed their last movies beyond what was really believable, and budgeted, and the stories suffered. Now Jackson too has followed this path.

The Hobbit trilogy will be a bloated, inferior follow-up to a legendary story that was adapted lovingly by fans, who 15 years ago were considered naive for trying to film the unfilmable.

I will watch the next two installments, but it doesn't evoke the excitement like it has in the past.


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I feel the same way... hobbit trilogy will be to LOTR what the prequel star wars trilogy is to the original
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Old 10-26-2013, 07:54 AM   #1784
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It isnt visible.
Maybe less compression artifacts, or better Peak bitrate values?

My goal is to have the best & purest copy of 2D version,
even if it means cropping the 3D version and only watching the left side.


Are you sure the bitrate value is only for the Left side on the 3D version?

EDIT:
Apparently it is.
The MVC bitrate noted separately, so it must be for Left image only.

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Old 10-26-2013, 08:34 AM   #1785
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"It's the dwarves who go swimmin', with little hairy women."

Thank you, Nick666

2D it is.
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:41 AM   #1786
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I mean 2d theatrical bitrate=2d extended bitrate , and left eye theatrical bitrate=left eye extended bitrate.
Yes,
Thus making the Extended Edition (+13 mins) a tad larger size (few Gigabytes more) at the same Mbps.

So,
2D from 2D version = 20 Mbps.
2D From 3D version = 25 Mbps.

But, no perceivable difference.
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:00 PM   #1787
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[Show spoiler]Nope, no lines for Bombur. Still holding out hope for films 2 & 3 on that score.


BTW, for those of you bugged by the changes to the text, there's a fantastic new line by
[Show spoiler]the Goblin King
that pokes fun at that very thing. It basically tells you that, yes, PJ is f***ing with you.
Won't be getting this until December...too many other titles are conspiring to drive me bankrupt...can you tell me what the line is? I gots ta know.
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Old 10-26-2013, 12:15 PM   #1788
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Is that front pic lenticular? Can you post pics of the inside please? I would love to see the inside packaging. I was going to import the US version as it looked like it had better packaging. But the UK version is half the price and I couldn't really justify the expense. Hope I've not made a mistake

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Old 10-26-2013, 12:43 PM   #1789
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Is a digipack or an amaray with slipcover? It looks like a digipack but just to be sure and pull the trigger...

Thanks in advance!
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:29 PM   #1790
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Just locked down a preorder. Anyone know who is producing the statue?
From the order page: “Riddles in the Dark” was sculpted by Gary Hunt from Weta Workshop. Gary is part of the wider Weta team who worked on the film. The figurine is approximately 2.07 lbs. Size: 8” wide, 5.25” deep and 7” tall.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:34 PM   #1791
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Is a digipack or an amaray with slipcover? It looks like a digipack but just to be sure and pull the trigger...

Thanks in advance!
A keep-case is clearly visible in the photo. It's not a digipak
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:41 PM   #1792
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A keep-case is clearly visible in the photo. It's not a digipak
Also looks like a brown amaray at that? Although it kind of hard to tell from that angle. Certainly not blue.
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Old 10-26-2013, 01:53 PM   #1793
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A keep-case is clearly visible in the photo. It's not a digipak
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Also looks like a brown amaray at that? Although it kind of hard to tell from that angle. Certainly not blue.
Yep You both are right... I looked carefully twice and it´s a brown amaray.

#1 let down of the year (in terms of packaging).

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Old 10-26-2013, 02:12 PM   #1794
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Won't be getting this until December...too many other titles are conspiring to drive me bankrupt...can you tell me what the line is? I gots ta know.
[Show spoiler] After Balin yells that his song is an abomination, he says:

Abominations, mutations, deviations! That's all you're going to find down here.

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Old 10-26-2013, 02:13 PM   #1795
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Also looks like a brown amaray at that? Although it kind of hard to tell from that angle. Certainly not blue.
Might be a black amaray like the ones used in the 2011 LOTR trilogy release.
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:16 PM   #1796
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Might be a black amaray like the ones used in the 2011 LOTR trilogy release.
That's what I was wondering, but it does look brown in that picture. Either way, kudos to marketing team for not going with basic blue.
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:21 PM   #1797
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That's what I was wondering, but it does look brown in that picture. Either way, kudos to marketing team for not going with basic blue.
Yea, I really like how they keep this release in line with the LOTR trilogy, even the way they name the special features (The Appendices Part ×).
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Old 10-26-2013, 02:23 PM   #1798
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Majorly bummed about the packaging. Seeing as how the DVD set is emulating the LotR DVDs' elaborate packaging, I had wrongly assumed the Blu-ray would go for the same design.

Very disappointed to see a simple keepcase. What a letdown.

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Old 10-26-2013, 02:31 PM   #1799
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Is that front pic lenticular?
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Majorly bummed about the packaging. Seeing as how the DVD set is emulating the LotR DVDs' elaborate packaging, I had wrongly assumed the Blu-ray would go for the same design.

Very disappointed to see a simple keepcase. What a letdown.
Sure - but the Blu-ray EEs didn't each come in a fold-out digipak, did they? We got black amarays in a box, just like this appears to be.
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