"Club Penton" - Ask questions to Hollywood insider "Penton-Man"

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by horseflesh

Was my comment in the "Be Kind Rewind" news article accurate...?

Phase One of Penton's "planned obsolesence"

This idea (i.e. Blu-ray edition streeting first and then DVD later)
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=1239

was actually floated to retailers by at least one studio head several months ago even before the format war ended.
Their response ?

They thought the impact of the advertising studios have around the dvd would be lost.
I guarantee you……. now, that this differential timeline will occur with Be Kind Rewind----several studio chieftains (i.e. Presidential level) will be keeping a close eye on the outcome(s) of this event.

[tvted]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Oh man, it’s going to be a Cruel…………..Cruel Summer with the hit my wallet is going to take given the upcoming Blu crush…………………….
https://www.blu-ray.com/news/

Ah yes, I prefer this Blestenation remix to the Fun Boy Three creation that was Bananarama - and I'm old enough to remember the guy mentioned below.

Blue Crush is one of my favourite soundtracks that I like to annoy my colleagues in the Control Room with during downtime - unfortunately Youth of a Nation is not on the CD. Not a great film but the cinematography is something that I would like to see on Blu.

The Sand Pebbles is a must buy for me to sit in my collection with Bullit and The Getaway. Now if I could get a Blu version of The Great Escape.

(Yes, I'm a Steve McQueen fan.)

ted

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by depooter

Penton
with Paid MIA, can you address the following gripe? It seems that Sony has been very sloppy lately and has not been including theatrical trailers (for the movie being purchased). This comes to mind with Gattaca, Superbad, and many, many others. Many of us movie fans love to have the theatrical trailer(s) as it rounds out the extras very nicely..

thanks

Paid, really has no control over this; however, since I think he’s been somewhat of an insider slacker recently, I think I’ll just e-mail your gripe directly to him ……….just to bug him.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by jopemoro

Nononono, check out the original by Bananarama, pure 80s:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5n6chxpEINs

Just don't tell me or link me anything about the Champions League Barcelona- Man. U. match today.

For that matter, same thing goes with Liverpool - Chelsea from yesterday for all you Blu folk from the U.K.

I won't be able to watch either on my DVR until this weekend - earliest.
Thanks for the link.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tvted

Blue Crush is one of my favourite soundtracks that I like to annoy my colleagues in the Control Room with during downtime - unfortunately Youth of a Nation is not on the CD. Not a great film but the cinematography is something that I would like to see on Blu.

The Sand Pebbles is a must buy for me to sit in my collection with Bullit and The Getaway. Now if I could get a Blu version of The Great Escape.

(Yes, I'm a Steve McQueen fan.)

ted

In case you missed it, search my past posts with the YouTube links for On Any Sunday.

That was his one of his real passions in life.

[Geoff Gibson]

"The Great Escape" cries out to be on Blu-Ray. I love that movie. While we are at it, I'll ask again for "The Quiet Man" and add "Mr. Roberts," "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" and "To Catch A Thief." These are classics that never get old. (Sorry to take up Penton's thread with a seeming request for titles but I was reacting to the call for "The Great Escape.")

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Sales expectations for these now very old movies need to be realistic, especially when most Blu-ray users are in a younger age group.

Realistic compared to what? Shouldn't the rare classic release have at least the same sales as one of hundreds of common releases? Are they really that contemptable to young people?

BD releases (quick survey, not 100% accurate):

1980s: 56
1970s: 24
1960s: 15
1950s: 8
1940s and before: 0

Now, granted a 1984 film would necessarily be considered old. But it is from a master film maker.

How many Billy Wilder, Hitchcock, and Cecil Bs requiring far more restoration effort can we hope to see if the word is that the general BD demographic can't stomache them?

I sure hope it is a lack of education, rather than a lack of capacity for enjoying these films.

Last I checked, the Rolling Stones still sold out their concerts. My goodness, going and watching 60+ year olds rock and roll. How can the youth stop from vomitting?

[horseflesh]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Just don't tell me or link me anything about the Champions League Barcelona- Man. U. match today.

For that matter, same thing goes with Liverpool - Chelsea from yesterday for all you Blu folk from the U.K.

I won't be able to watch either on my DVR until this weekend - earliest.
Thanks for the link.

Will you be retrospectively cheering for Barca after your visit a couple of months ago?

[Bullseye]

Penton do you know if Dr. Zhivago has been given the same care and attention as Lawrence of Arabia?

[WickyWoo]

No it has not, but Lowry did one of their frame by frame restorations for the DVD, so it should be fine

[Objectivity]

Originally Posted by JAGUAR1977

Critical acclaim doesn't neccessarily result in popularity (stating the obvious I know).

You may be right.


To quote Roger Ebert, "...one of the greatest screen adaptations I have ever seen.

Box office wise, it was ranks 34th for the year. but 14 other movies were within $3 million of it in either direction.

[mark antony]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

No it has not, but Lowry did one of their frame by frame restorations for the DVD, so it should be fine

They certainly did, the only trouble is that it was among one of the earliest Lowry job's for Warner, of which two others, Citizen Kane and N BY Nwest will have to be re-done for hi-def because the were done at 720p and 1080i respectively...I have no idea whether DZ was done at 1080p or not, if not it'll have to be done again.

If it does the film elements were apparantly left in such bad-shape after the '95 "restoration" then you could be looking at a fully digital 4K restoration which is mega-bucks...

M

[Bullseye]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

No it has not, but Lowry did one of their frame by frame restorations for the DVD, so it should be fine

Well that kinda sucks as for me its the better film.

[eChopper]

agreed-Zhivago rocks

[ECWaenigma]

Originally Posted by Geoff Gibson

"The Great Escape" cries out to be on Blu-Ray. I love that movie. While we are at it, I'll ask again for "The Quiet Man" and add "Mr. Roberts," "Mr. Smith Goes To Washington" and "To Catch A Thief." These are classics that never get old. (Sorry to take up Penton's thread with a seeming request for titles but I was reacting to the call for "The Great Escape.")

No "Magnificent Seven"? WTF?

[Mr. Cinema]

I've noticed alot of members seem to think that the VC-1 codec is a bad thing. I'm sure most of that is associated with it being used mostly by studios who used to support that Red format. However, what they may not realize, is Disney has used VC-1 on at least 3 titles I know of: Flightplan, Deja-Vu, and Gone Baby Gone. To my eyes, all 3 looked great. Are we making too much of a big deal about codecs? I doubt the human eye is going to be able to tell the difference. Who decides on what codec to use and why did Disney use VC-1 when they are primarily a user of AVC?

[blitz6speed]

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

I've noticed alot of members seem to think that the VC-1 codec is a bad thing. I'm sure most of that is associated with it being used mostly by studios who used to support that Red format. However, what they may not realize, is Disney has used VC-1 on at least 3 titles I know of: Flightplan, Deja-Vu, and Gone Baby Gone. To my eyes, all 3 looked great. Are we making too much of a big deal about codecs? I doubt the human eye is going to be able to tell the difference. Who decides on what codec to use and why did Disney use VC-1 when they are primarily a user of AVC?

IMO, VC-1 represents Microsofts entry into this whole debacle, and id rather have them shunned out completely. Also, check out Bad Santa, is has the movie re-encoded twice on the disc, one VC-1, one AVC, and the AVC is clearly superior in every way, shape and form. If we got every release in AVC with lossless audio, i dont think anyone would be disapointed in anyway.

[WickyWoo]

VC-1 and AVC are virtually identical

It's simply that people have seen mediocre stuff associated with VC-1. There are plenty of reference compressions in VC-1.

Typically an authoring house or an individual author decides what codec they want to use.

[Spankey]

I've noticed alot of members seem to think that the VC-1 codec is a bad thing. I'm sure most of that is associated with it being used mostly by studios who used to support that Red format.

VC-1 at lower bit rates is not a good thing as are other codecs at lower bit rates. VC-1 is better than other codecs at lower bit rates and was/is being optimized to run at those lower rates by MS because of the storage space available to HD-DVD and now downloads. Given the space to breathe, VC-1 looks as great as AVC. Check out Disney's Flightplan. Great looking title.

[PaulGo]

According to Richard - R&B Films, and many experts from Doom9 (including Golgot13 who is an expert in the industry) AVS is superior at ALL bit rates. They only experts that seem to say VC-1 is better is Amir and Ben Waggoner of Microsoft. There have even been some rumors the Microsoft is abandoning support of VC-1.