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Old 04-25-2008, 05:47 PM   #21
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gotta love jersey gas prices!!!! has gone up that much but hasn't affected by BD purchasing!!!
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:56 PM   #22
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I stopped driving my 02 Expedition.
I used to work where your Expedition was built.

Not anymore, thanks to gas prices.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:00 PM   #23
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I take the public transportation so gas prices, really not an issue. It's the price of bus passes and fares that are a killer since they went up from $3 to $5 for a day pass.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:22 PM   #24
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I work for Oil&Gas services company. So higher the oil prices go, the better financially I stand. To answer OP's question - it increases it.

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Just remember something new and better always comes along to replace an existing thing and Oil is no exception. It will get replaced too.
We will do everything in our power to prevent this from happening. Unless of course we own the new tech and it's more profitable then the Oil.

Sorry.

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:23 PM   #25
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I take the public transportation so gas prices, really not an issue. It's the price of bus passes and fares that are a killer since they went up from $3 to $5 for a day pass.

See, that's where a lot of people don't realize the connection. We are the one who will keep paying. Since we are in a global economy, everything is connected. As long as the gas price keeps going up, so will everything else. Products have to be made, shipped etc. We have to get to work. So some people like you make the decision to use public transportation. You pay for your pass say 3 buck. Well the bus uses gas. They decide it's costing them X ammount to run the buses so they make the decision. Raise the bus pass to 5 bucks. Who winds up paying? We do. I work on an Air Force base. Anyone else who does know what the lemon lot is. Well at my base the lemon lot is full of trucks, suv's and campers. Almost no small cars. It is affecting everyone whether they believe it or not.
When people say it doesn't affect them they are kidding themselves.
If you live in an apartment or a house, you have utility bills. How do you think you get your power? I like everyone here love my stuff, but prices are starting to go up on everything. If you think they haven't then I don't think you are really paying attention to it.
I ran to the store on Monday for my wife to get a loaf of bread and a dozen eggs. It was about 7 bucks.
Anyone think that's cheap. Well that stuff like everything else had to be delivered via something that runs on gas.
It's all connected. And we are in for a bumpy ride.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:27 PM   #26
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I work for Oil&Gas exploration services company. So higher the oil prices go, the better financially I stand. To answer OP's question - it increases it.



We will do everything in our power to prevent this from happening. Unless of course we own the new tech and it's more profitable then the Oil.

Sorry.
Yeah, you are right. You're not telling me anything I didn't already know. I am well aware of what the oil companies are doing. I always tell people the reason we don't have alternatives yet is because the oil companies haven't figured out how to gobble up that pie yet.
Maybe you guys have a plan to buy the sun and then you can charge us for that and keep making record profits.
Greedy bastards one and all.
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:30 PM   #27
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No negatives, lots of positives...
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:31 PM   #28
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Its costing me more to go to the same places (and even some new places).

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:31 PM   #29
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No negatives, lots of positives...

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:33 PM   #30
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right...because you can lug around yard stuff and trees in a Prius...lame...not everyone lives in an apartment or flat...
Very true. But, you don't need to lug around yard stuff and trees every single drive, right?

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:39 PM   #31
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Very true. But, you don't need to lug around yard stuff and trees every single drive, right?

Gary
Right!! Thats why my commuter is a Camry...
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:42 PM   #32
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look to the left...
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:46 PM   #33
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look to the left...
must be nice
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Old 04-25-2008, 06:50 PM   #34
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must be nice
Quite into skyscrapers and the like.... this kinda thing is pretty fun to watch

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:53 PM   #35
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The sad thing to me is the push toward corn based Ethanol. It is soooo much less efficient than other biofuel alternatives, and NOT environmentally friendly. While it may reduce the use of fossil fuels in cars, it is a terrible way to do it. Brazil's sugar based ethanol is almost EIGHT TIMES more efficient to produce and process.
Depending on which study you believe in, corn may even be a negative. Some studies show it takes more than one barrel of oil to produce one barrel of oil equivalent (BOE) from corn.

Many studies that show a net gain fail to take into account ALL the oil and energy expenditures. For example:

Manufacturing, distributing and applying the pesticides and fertilizers used to grow corn.
Transporting the corn to the distillery.
Transporting the ethanol to the gasoline refinery.

Oil -> pipeline -> Big ship -> Louisiana refinery. Ugly, evil oil. But very efficient.

But, the whole point of corn is a money making scheme. The environmental and security issues are secondary.

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Not a hybrid fan either thanks to the batteries. They seem like a poor stop-gap solution.
For plug-in hybrids, for sure. Those will need better batteries. Although, there are automotive NiMH batteries that were developed for California electric cars that should be fine. But, the batteries for simple hybrids shouldn't be an issue.

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:56 PM   #36
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Right!! Thats why my commuter is a Camry...
Excellent. That's practical thinking.

People shouldn't be condemned for owning vehicles that suit their needs. Only for when they use it improperly.

SUV: Needed for a family outing
SUV: Not needed for a single passenger commute

An extension is, if you can you should walk or bicycle to pick up the paper, a video, a latte, or a quart of milk. Using a car all the time is a lazy and stupid waste.

Gary

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Old 04-25-2008, 06:59 PM   #37
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A very little.

Although I could afford more, I am very content to just drive a small utilitarian vehicle that meets my needs. There are always other things to spend money on.

2 vehicles ago, I downsized from a truck to a mid-size car. Last time (2 years ago) I downsized again from a mid-size to a subcompact (Honda Fit).

It took some getting used to, but only because of my apprehension about the size of other cars that could hit me. Other than that, I really like getting 38 MPG (my real average). There is really nothing wrong with having a car this size because I normally drive with only 1 or 2 passangers. For carrying things (like a trip to CostCo) I've never run out of room. Ease of parking (finding marginal spaces at a full lot, or parking in a garage with another car and all the usual garage junk) is another big selling point.

I think gas prices will only go up from here, and that other things affected by energy prices (food, utilities, etc.) will go up too.

If you have the opportunity, save yourself some money and give a smaller car a try!
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:03 PM   #38
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I use my SUV (albeit small) for single person work-commuting, but I also use it for its intended purpose...
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Old 04-25-2008, 07:18 PM   #39
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I'm going thru about $1200 a month in gas right now and its gonna get worse. I'm looking for a more efficeint car right now to lug my equipment around in.
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Old 04-25-2008, 08:13 PM   #40
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Nope not at all im still buying and Driveing My happy hippy Convertion van :}
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