A Tale of Two Sisters - Blu-ray Forum

nitin · 11-06-2013, 09:33 AM

are you referring to the 'gate wobble' you describe above? Is that the same as telecine wobble (ie I should be seeing a jitter in the frame at edit points)?

Anamnesis · 11-06-2013, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nitin

are you referring to the 'gate wobble' you describe above? Is that the same as telecine wobble (ie I should be seeing a jitter in the frame at edit points)?

Yeah I am not really sure what the hell it is.... could be telecine wobble, but it does not always effect the whole frame.., I am afraid these kind of things really distract me and each time I notice one it takes me out of the film... which for a movie like this is a big no no... I truly am surprised these kind of defects are deemed acceptable... it almost makes me think they didn't even watch the film running at normal speed on anything larger than a 24" monitor in the studio. I would be interested to know where the print they used for this release came from. A Tale of Two Sisters is one of my favourite films, I have owned (and still do) many incarnations of it:

I am about the check what the print on the R3 Limited Edition DVD looks like....

*EDIT* So the issue is even worse on the R3 DVD... obviously whatever print the Koreans used as a master is where the issue is stemming from... so not sure where Tartan sourced the version they used on the U.K DVD?!

PGW · 11-06-2013, 11:58 AM

Maybe they didn't use a different print - just cut out a frame or two at the beginning of each shot to "correct" the problem?

Aardvark_DK · 11-06-2013, 03:51 PM

The sharpening is unfortunate but at least it's HD, unlike the British blu-ray - I still regret paying for that piece of crap.

nitin · 11-06-2013, 08:54 PM

Will check my copy again today for the wobble.

OrlandoEastwood · 11-06-2013, 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by nitin

are you referring to the 'gate wobble' you describe above? Is that the same as telecine wobble (ie I should be seeing a jitter in the frame at edit points)?

I noted this in my review on the UK Blu-ray. In my review, I noted it was filmed in VistaVision which is an outdated film stock. The frame is approx 1.5:1. It's processed differently from regular film. In a way, it's telecine wobble, but, the opposite way.

PGW · 11-06-2013, 10:22 PM

VistaVision isn't a film stock, it's an alternative format that uses 35mm film but prints the image sideways. Because of the high resolution, it's still occasionally used for special effects shots (such as the beginning of "The Dark Knight").

Where did you get the information that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision? The 35mm film clip included with the LE DVD shows a standard 35mm image.

Anamnesis · 11-07-2013, 01:24 AM

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Originally Posted by PGW

Where did you get the information that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision? The 35mm film clip included with the LE DVD shows a standard 35mm image.

IMDB has it listed as VistaVision under the technical specs for the film.

Nisei · 11-07-2013, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PGW

Where did you get the information that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision? The 35mm film clip included with the LE DVD shows a standard 35mm image.

You don't think they gave you a piece of the original film material do you?

That's a piece of one of the many theater copies. Regular theaters wouldn't be able to project VistaVision material.

PGW · 11-07-2013, 05:16 PM

The film clip in the LE is certainly from an actual theater print, as you say, so they DID give us a "piece of the original film material."

I presume what you're saying is that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision, then knocked down to standard 35mm for projection in Korean theaters... well – okay. But if Korean theaters can't handle VistaVision (and it's a good bet they can't) why film it in that format? What's the point?

Can any verification of ToTS being filmed in VistaVision be found other than the notoriously unreliable imdb?

Anamnesis · 11-07-2013, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PGW

Can any verification of ToTS being filmed in VistaVision be found other than the notoriously unreliable imdb?

It is confirmed in the credits of the film:

PGW · 11-07-2013, 08:57 PM

Nice catch! But I'm still confused - if theaters in Korea aren't equipped for VistaVision, what would be the point in filming it in that format?

11-07-2013, 05:16 PM	#10
PGW Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2009 Location:United States Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:4	The film clip in the LE is certainly from an actual theater print, as you say, so they DID give us a "piece of the original film material." I presume what you're saying is that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision, then knocked down to standard 35mm for projection in Korean theaters... well – okay. But if Korean theaters can't handle VistaVision (and it's a good bet they can't) why film it in that format? What's the point? Can any verification of ToTS being filmed in VistaVision be found other than the notoriously unreliable imdb? Last edited by PGW; 11-07-2013 at 06:30 PM.

11-06-2013, 09:33 AM	#1
nitin Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Trading Score:9	are you referring to the 'gate wobble' you describe above? Is that the same as telecine wobble (ie I should be seeing a jitter in the frame at edit points)?

11-06-2013, 11:58 AM	#3
PGW Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2009 Location:United States Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:4	Maybe they didn't use a different print - just cut out a frame or two at the beginning of each shot to "correct" the problem?

11-06-2013, 03:51 PM	#4
Aardvark_DK Active Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Copenhagen, Denmark	The sharpening is unfortunate but at least it's HD, unlike the British blu-ray - I still regret paying for that piece of crap.

11-06-2013, 08:54 PM	#5
nitin Blu-ray Knight Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Trading Score:9	Will check my copy again today for the wobble.

11-06-2013, 10:22 PM	#7
PGW Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2009 Location:United States Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:4	VistaVision isn't a film stock, it's an alternative format that uses 35mm film but prints the image sideways. Because of the high resolution, it's still occasionally used for special effects shots (such as the beginning of "The Dark Knight"). Where did you get the information that "A Tale of Two Sisters" was filmed in VistaVision? The 35mm film clip included with the LE DVD shows a standard 35mm image.

11-07-2013, 08:57 PM	#12
PGW Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2009 Location:United States Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:4	Nice catch! But I'm still confused - if theaters in Korea aren't equipped for VistaVision, what would be the point in filming it in that format?

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