Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

This is why I'm staying clear of the Disney Star Wars films. Everything in these rumors sounds ridiculous...especially the Boba Fett idea.

He died in Episode VI. Move on.

The best and only good idea for these Disney Star Wars films is to do a trilogy that tells the tale of the Jedi Sith Wars, way before the Skywalkers. It doesn't mess up the Saga and it would be completely fresh.

The Skywalker tale is done. What else is there left to tell after Episode VI?

Don't be silly! Nobody ever dies in the movies!

[Groge511]

Really dont like the Boba Fett idea. Fair enough, a movie good be good but they shouldn't retcon what already is. Add to it but don't change what I-VI have done

[stvn1974]

Disney will retcon Boba Fett to make him crawl out of the sarlac pit and see the error of his ways and become a good guy out for redemption.


That will sell more toys and other merchandise.

[BozQ]

Originally Posted by Kirk Out

I say more luke skywalker the better, I wanna see how much of a badass in the force luke has become

Which is why, and I've said this many times, I don't mind recasting the original characters. Hamill, Harrison and Fisher are old.

If Episode VII represents a jump of 30 years, there's a lot to catch up in a two hour movie. It is unlike the period from Revenge of the Sith to A New Hope, we know the Empire has finally ruled the Galaxy and they're exterminating the Jedi throughout.

Return of the Jedi ended off nicely without any need for a sequel. But a lot of stories can be told immediately after the fall of the Empire. In fact, it would be mighty interesting to see how Luke struggles to carry this burden of starting the Jedi Academy while handling a new threat. Transitioning to the next generation so soon would have been disconcerting.

[klauswhereareyou]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Which is why, and I've said this many times, I don't mind recasting the original characters. Hamill, Harrison and Fisher are old.

If Episode VII represents a jump of 30 years, there's a lot to catch up in a two hour movie. It is unlike the period from Revenge of the Sith to A New Hope, we know the Empire has finally ruled the Galaxy and they're exterminating the Jedi throughout.

Return of the Jedi ended off nicely without any need for a sequel. But a lot of stories can be told immediately after the fall of the Empire. In fact, it would be mighty interesting to see how Luke struggles to carry this burden of starting the Jedi Academy while handling a new threat. Transitioning to the next generation so soon would have been disconcerting.

I agree. Lucas already ruined continuity with the prequels, might as well just reboot the casting and do something in the first few years after Jedi.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

This is why I'm staying clear of the Disney Star Wars films. Everything in these rumors sounds ridiculous...especially the Boba Fett idea.

He died in Episode VI. Move on.

The best and only good idea for these Disney Star Wars films is to do a trilogy that tells the tale of the Jedi Sith Wars, way before the Skywalkers. It doesn't mess up the Saga and it would be completely fresh.

The Skywalker tale is done. What else is there left to tell after Episode VI?

I would kill for a KOTOR era movie dealing with Revan... I think I would **** my pants if that happened.....

[solarrdadd]

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[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by camper

What do you mean Hammil hasn't done anything??

His voice acting career is legendary. If you've watched any Batman/Spiderman animated series since the 90s you've heard him, and if you've played Arkham City/Asylum you've heard him as the Joker.

He's the MOST typecast of the bunch, but he's been working steadily ever since. He doesn't have the movie career Ford does, but let's be realistic here--aside from Indiana Jones and a handful of other movies, Harrison Ford doesn't have the movie career people think he does. Look at his resume, he's got more than his fair share of crappy films under his belt.

Anyway, of all the characters post Jedi films, it's really Luke that was the one who did anything of major substance. If anyone should be in all the new films it should be Hammil because it is HIS story that is beginning, as it is HE who rebuilds the Jedi order. Han, Leia...they're supporting characters, and really not all that interesting anymore other than as plot devices for Luke and his nephews/neices.

Don't forget his work in the Wing Commander PC game series. I loved his role as Colonel Christopher Blair.

[Sknyfs]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Which is why, and I've said this many times, I don't mind recasting the original characters. Hamill, Harrison and Fisher are old.

If Episode VII represents a jump of 30 years, there's a lot to catch up in a two hour movie. It is unlike the period from Revenge of the Sith to A New Hope, we know the Empire has finally ruled the Galaxy and they're exterminating the Jedi throughout.

Return of the Jedi ended off nicely without any need for a sequel. But a lot of stories can be told immediately after the fall of the Empire. In fact, it would be mighty interesting to see how Luke struggles to carry this burden of starting the Jedi Academy while handling a new threat. Transitioning to the next generation so soon would have been disconcerting.

Well episode 6 ended with the thought the Sith were extinct... having a time gap is perfect it nothing was happening, so there is no need for any real catchup.. Just start off with a peaceful skywalker family and then a few shots of a new threat and thats only about 30 minutes..

[stvn1974]

I hope that there is a line or two that can explain away Leia remembering her mother and the fact that Obi-Wan has Alzheimer's in the OT now.

Also, if it turns out to be true about someone killing Boba Fett and taking his armor for his own then why does he sound like Jango Fett in the bastardized version of Empire Strikes Back ? Will Disney re-re-re-release the OT with the new actor dubbing the lines in Empire now?

I give up. I hate Star Wars.

[franken_psycho1990]

Originally Posted by BozQ

Which is why, and I've said this many times, I don't mind recasting the original characters. Hamill, Harrison and Fisher are old.

If Episode VII represents a jump of 30 years, there's a lot to catch up in a two hour movie. It is unlike the period from Revenge of the Sith to A New Hope, we know the Empire has finally ruled the Galaxy and they're exterminating the Jedi throughout.

Return of the Jedi ended off nicely without any need for a sequel. But a lot of stories can be told immediately after the fall of the Empire. In fact, it would be mighty interesting to see how Luke struggles to carry this burden of starting the Jedi Academy while handling a new threat. Transitioning to the next generation so soon would have been disconcerting.

So when people get older they are not useful anymore? You're a very nice person. Would you suggest death camps for people once they hit age 40? I feel sorry for you. Those actors cannot be replaced.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Tok

Do we know for sure if they aren't recasting the original stars? I wouldn't be surprised if they do. Abrahms recast Star Trek because the original stars were past their prime.

That's not relevant. Star Trek was recast because it was a reboot, not a sequel and the story actually pre-dated the original TV series, so the cast had to be even younger than the original TV cast.

[ZoetMB]

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This argument (prioritizing the film on the Skywalker family instead of the Solo family) sounds ridiculous, so I hope it's not accurate.

Seems to me that the sequel could easily handle both and in fact a parallel story of how the Solo family fares vs. how the Skywalker family fares 30 years later could be the core of the plot.

For example, maybe after the events in Episode VI, the population came to know that Luke and Leia were the offspring of Vader and they're accused of treason and/or terrorism. Maybe Han is able to protect Leia and Luke bares the brunt of this and all this greatly affects all of the next generation. Maybe the Solo kids (or grandkids) have no love lost for the Skywalker kids (or grandkids), but perhaps they come together (or not) to fight some new enemy.

Actually, I think it would be pretty funny if the Solo kids and Skywalker kids are all lame and had too easy a life and it's the grandkids who are the adventurers and the center of the Episode VII story. And maybe the grandkids have never been told the full story of their grandparents' involvement in the events overturning the Empire and they think their grandparents are lame as well.

As for the ages of the original actors, I don't think that matters as long as they're not the complete core of the story. After all, Alec Guiness was pretty old when he played Obi-Wan. Han, Luke and Leia can serve the same kind of purpose.

[Tok]

But remember the movies of that time were not filled to the brim with extraordinarily good looking actors like today.

[AmrlKJaneway]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Don't be silly! Nobody ever dies in the movies!

Lol. So true...

Boba Fett could become a new horror franchise, and die in every episode!

Oh, and I feel I must add - The Solo kids are the Skywalker kids. Leia is their mother...

[Packerfan75]

Originally Posted by stvn1974

I hope that there is a line or two that can explain away Leia remembering her mother and the fact that Obi-Wan has Alzheimer's in the OT now

Thank you for saying that. These were clear oversights to be sure.
You could say Leia was remembering her adopted mother Organa but I'm sure this isn't what she meant when she was talking to Luke in ROTJ. As for Obi Wan's amnesia about R2-D2 and C-3P0, I can't even begin to explain that.

[Bluyoda]

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Originally Posted by Malik True

Jesse Plemons it seems has the inside track on the lead role in Episode VII. Interesting...

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

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Well, that sounds absolutely pathetic to me.
I like JJ's films so far, but Star Wars is should be done by George Lucas IMO.
I like his ways.
Well, time will tell.

[cynatnite]

Originally Posted by Packerfan75

Thank you for saying that. These were clear oversights to be sure.
You could say Leia was remembering her adopted mother Organa but I'm sure this isn't what she meant when she was talking to Luke in ROTJ. As for Obi Wan's amnesia about R2-D2 and C-3P0, I can't even begin to explain that.

I could attribute Leia's remembering her mother from an in the womb experience due to having the Force and all that.

I'm with you on the thing with R2 and 3PO. It'll probably get ignored.

I always wanted to see the awkward conversation between Luke and Leia with Leia saying, "Hey, about that kiss..."

Or Luke looking at Leia and thinking, "My sister kissed me full on the mouth and I liked it."

[camper]

To address a few things:


Boba Fett escapes from the Sarlaac in the books. He's a very persistent bounty hunter. I also think that ignoring that he was a clone is a bad idea, its established. Deal with it and use it. Maybe the knowledge of being manufactured makes him more heartless? Either way, leave it be IMHO.

People worry about too much to explain, but nobody remembers that the most iconic part of the star wars films is the exposition which crawls over the screen during the opening of the film. If written well, it could easily setup the "what's happened to them" aspect everyone is concerned with.

Obi-Wan and the droids. Who cares if he didn't act like he remembered them, or said "I never owned any droids"? Mr "What I told you is true---from a certain perspective" wasn't lying, and the impression gathered regarding droids is that they're like pets or a walking iPod or something. Either way, they're not people and I don't think Obi Wan cared much about them. Besides, Obi Wan didn't tell Luke about the fact he was Vaders kid until after Yoda died, you think he would have saidd "Oh yeah...your now evil dad built C3PO and R2 belonged to your mom." No, so that nitpick is not worth it.

Luke kissing Leia...well, they didn't know. And since time passed between the original and Empire, and in Empire they weren't a couple at the beginning because her and Han were flirting with each other, obviously the "good luck" kiss didn't go anywhere and the 2nd one was to make Han jealous....but hey, Angelina Jolie made out similarly with her brother and Brad Pitt still wanted to bone her, and she still got roles and guys fawning over her so it's another issue to just let go.

Older actors...one thing I learned from watching Indiana Jones 4, is that Harrison Ford looks like an old man running around pretending he isn't. Good for him being in such good shape, but I kept waiting for him to break a hip. I don't want to watch an old man Han trying to relive his glory days. Luke on the other hand, being a Jedi, is IN his glory days so to speak. He doesn't need to jump and flutter around, the force powers he no doubt developed makes it so. If they are in the movies, I want to see the original cast in VERY minor fan-service cameo rolls, with the exception of Luke. Of course, if well written that is different, but I want new characters and new direction. And I want a NEW Sith Lord.

Honestly, what I want to see most is R2-D2 and C3PO retired out. Bring in new droids if you have to, but keeping them in the series because they've been in EVERYTHING else is not justification to keep them going. They're nearly 100 years old at this point, there HAS to be better droids and I'm quite honestly, tired of them.

[joe_b]

Originally Posted by cynatnite

I could attribute Leia's remembering her mother from an in the womb experience due to having the Force and all that.

You could, but you really shouldn't have to. You'd think Papa George could have taken the time to actually, you know, WATCH the original trilogy again to ensure the events in Sith lined up with what was previously set-up. They could have established earlier in the film that Padme is suffering from illness before taking baby Leia to hide out with Bail on Alderaan and asking him to protect the child. We wouldn't even needed to see her death, but Leia's memory in Jedi would confirm her passing. The Emperor could've lied and told Anakin she died anyway, as he seemed to just go along with whatever ol' Palpy told him in that film anyway.

I also feel it would have made sense for baby Luke to spend at least a bit of time on Dagobah (probably hiding out with Obi-Wan and Yoda while waiting for things to cool down before relocating to Tatooine). That would explain the "There's something familiar about this place" line in Empire. Again, you could just explain that line away as Luke and Yoda being linked by the Force and yada, yada, yada... but all the avoidable inconsistencies with the prequels still annoy me.