Oh noes teh sky is falling!

[bowlingbilly10]

Originally Posted by FREYMAX 3D

OK... So we just had a major ice storm here yesterday, and a very large tree branch loaded down with ice snapped off the huge tree in my front yard and brought down the cable TV line to the house along with it, which carries both my internet and phone service. SO, what did we do all day without any internet service and thus no possibility of any streaming? We watched a couple pristine Blu-ray movies in my theater room, on a 120" projection screen... 'nuff said.

Dang that's awful about the ice storm part.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by grape_jelly

I can't repeat it enough, honestly, but a combination of both is sublime. It's called having your pie, and eating it too.

It's cake, not pie.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

My Blu-ray player completely broke, SO what did we do all day without any BD player? Streamed movies online...'nuff said.


argument = can go both ways

Not for me. I have four BD players in my house and soon to be five. I'm covered.

[unsivilaudio]

I don't normally feed trolls, but for you I'll make an exception...once.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

First of all discussing pirating movies and illegal activity is not allowed on the site.

Nobody is discussing "pirating", so GTFO with you self-righteous bull

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Second MKV is an envelope so if the MKV file is smaller then tan original file, then you are recompressing it and it is not lossless on the other hand if it is lossless the file size will be roughly the same and it does not add anything.

Hence why I said "...in the future..."

Originally Posted by Anthony P

lastly I am with TOK on this (and it is not because I have not experienced it)

- Maybe with the meager excuse of a collection you are discussing it is not much of an issue (especially if it is not lossless as you stated in your post) but I have over 12x the movies you have on BD and so we would be discussing a whole new magnitude of drive space needed.

I seriously doubt I could find 1200 BD's I would WANT to own, especially with the current track record of studio's unwillingness to release on Blu-ray. Even so here's some math for you. 1200x50GB=60TB; plenty doable by today's hard-drive standards, especially if I had the money to waste on that many BD's. I could build it (a server) for less than $5k to house that.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

- I watch my films either in my HT (that is why I built it) or at friends homes neither of which would be helped by a media server, I don't need to stream it to my FR or BR or kitchen or office... or anywhere else in my home, those displays are either for gaming or watching TV not for movies.

What can I say, I like options. More importantly with Plex I can share my entire collection with my brother when he is overseas.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

- lastly I have had disk based media servers and I have used SW to keep my BD collection and in my experience digital movie selection just can't beat a well organized physical library when it comes to deciding what to watch. What I mean is that if I know what film I want I can get it off the shelf before my projector even has time to warm up, if there are a few people and we decide to watch a film they don't all need to go through the same titles which tends to bring up stupid and useless conversations about films no one is interested in watching but they can all be looking at different parts of the wall and if one of them sees a film they are interested in they will say "what about ____" and the other films hat person went through are immaterial since this guy would have vetoed it so who cares if someone else would have been interested in it.

I like that I don't even have to get off my couch to decide what I want to watch; its not laziness, its working smarter not harder.

Originally Posted by Prince Junior

Woah, woah, woah. It's not the size of your collection, but what you do with it.

I agree, dude sounds like a complete . I guess ignorance is bliss.

[bigshot]

I'm on my last laserdisc player, I'm afraid.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I'm on my last laserdisc player, I'm afraid.

I'm on my last HD DVD player and I'm fearless. It's one of the tanks thank goodness.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by bigshot

I'm on my last laserdisc player, I'm afraid.

Yeah me too. My CLD-D704 will be my last player. I was considering an Elite a while back but the prices are just too crazy. As long as I clean my player when it needs it, it should last for a while longer.

My Evil Dead 2 Blood Red laserdisc looks pretty good, so does the remastered The Bad News Bears.

[Retroj23]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

I'm on my last HD DVD player and I'm fearless. It's one of the tanks thank goodness.

My A35 is still going strong.

As far as I'm concerned it's the only way to watch Carpenters The Thing.

[8traxrule]

OK... So we just had a major ice storm here yesterday, and a very large tree branch loaded down with ice snapped off the huge tree in my front yard and brought down the cable TV line to the house along with it, which carries both my internet and phone service. SO, what did we do all day without any internet service and thus no possibility of any streaming? We watched a couple pristine Blu-ray movies in my theater room, on a 120" projection screen... 'nuff said.

That's the main reason I won't switch to buying movies 'digitally', even if the quality were exactly the same as a disc. I've had my internet go out far more times than having my playback equipment fail. I was without phone or internet for an entire week one time due to a busted line that took forever to get repaired, and that was before even Netflix had started.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by djluis2k6

So are you asking if we have thought about going completely digital? If that's it, no, I haven't, but I'm doing both. Every movie and TV Show that I own on physical media, I've purchased again in iTunes. And once I replace a DVD, I do away with the DVD, but I keep Blu-Rays to keep my hard drives free of the space that HD content will take. Especially with iTunes in the Cloud, I can do that and know I can always re-download that content if I need to, or just stream through Apple TV.

In my opinion, that is part of the problem. Currently I am seeing a trend for some people to start using streaming services as a substitute for bluray, thinking that the future will be some utopia where we will all be watching multiple streaming services for less than £30 per month, all in glorious 4K beamed straight to our projectors or TV sets.
The reality, IMO, is that adopting streaming is the first step towards the MP3 route. Meaning, a huge step back in quality and a pattern that follows the music industry. Films will become a throwaway media, watch once and then onto the next. The quality will be SD for a very low price per month or HD for a higher subscription. In my opinion, we are already seeing the seeds of this with Netflix'es upcoming SD only option. Yes, sell through will still exist, but it won't be big business. The subscription model will see to that. Say something like Spotify, for the sake of argument.
Device wise, obviously disc based media promotes home viewing and that's great. With streaming tech obviously smartphones, tablets and even smartwatches (yes I am serious) come into play. This generation of youngsters are used to watching movies and tv on their smartphones, that will be their source for the likes of Hulu, Netflix etc.. At the moment we still have our TV sets but for those of us still in our twenties or thirties, a world without the living room tv is a real possibility. I believe it will be tablets and smartphones that will be the target of this new world with big screens an afterthought. Eventually we will be a minority, a bit like being a bluray collector now. Personal devices will take over because IMO, people are becoming drones staring at their small screens. If this upcoming gen are more interested in Facebook, candy crush etc it stands to reason that they won't care about a depleted viewing experience when watching a movie, as long as it is cheap. So, by all means carry on with the streaming but don't cry people when we are no longer able to do the home cinema 'thing'. IMO, all you guys that buy into this new age are sealing the fate of the big screen and with tv sales suffering we need all the home cinema fans we can get.

I will get the usual suspects giving me the usual comments but people may look back on this post and see that it was very close to the truth. So, streaming wins, home cinema dies and that is something I can't bear. Let's see the danger signs now rather than leave it too late.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Retroj23

My A35 is still going strong.

As far as I'm concerned it's the only way to watch Carpenters The Thing.

I have the A20 myself. The A20, A35, and XA2 are absolute tanks.

[HarcourtMudd]

My 19 year old CLD-95 is still running strong (never needed service), as is my HD805 (XA2). For me, the difference between streaming and physical media is where the ownership of the movie actually lies. Streaming is much like the old DIVX (the Circuit City one), in that even if a film is purchased (I think CC called it "Silver"), ultimately the ability to access it resided on a remote server. Anything from a downed server to overzealous PC censorship could then potentially curb "ownership." In the case of physical media, there is absolutely no question as to who owns the content (none of this "you are leasing the right to watch the movie, not the movie itself" stuff), and the studio is completely removed from the equation. Aside from copyright violations (i.e. illegal distribution), once I hand over my credit card the physical disc is mine... plastic, aluminum, AND CONTENT. All of this "leasing" nonsense implies that the content owner could potentially show up at my doorstep and require me to return the disc... which I would give real money to see them try. That being said, IMO streaming is a great way to rent content, but a poor way to build a library for collectors. When (if) physical media is completely displaced is the end of the line for me (I will redirect my funds to other aspects of this hobby).

[Steedeel]

In my opinion, it's always telling when a post is started and that person hardly posts afterwards. What's that all about?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by HarcourtMudd

My 19 year old CLD-95 is still running strong (never needed service), as is my HD805 (XA2). For me, the difference between streaming and physical media is where the ownership of the movie actually lies. Streaming is much like the old DIVX (the Circuit City one), in that even if a film is purchased (I think CC called it "Silver"), ultimately the ability to access it resided on a remote server. Anything from a downed server to overzealous PC censorship could then potentially curb "ownership." In the case of physical media, there is absolutely no question as to who owns the content (none of this "you are leasing the right to watch the movie, not the movie itself" stuff), and the studio is completely removed from the equation. Aside from copyright violations (i.e. illegal distribution), once I hand over my credit card the physical disc is mine... plastic, aluminum, AND CONTENT. All of this "leasing" nonsense implies that the content owner could potentially show up at my doorstep and require me to return the disc... which I would give real money to see them try. That being said, IMO streaming is a great way to rent content, but a poor way to build a library for collectors. When (if) physical media is completely displaced is the end of the line for me (I will redirect my funds to other aspects of this hobby).

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

In my opinion, that is part of the problem. Currently I am seeing a trend for some people to start using streaming services as a substitute for bluray, thinking that the future will be some utopia where we will all be watching multiple streaming services for less than £30 per month, all in glorious 4K beamed straight to our projectors or TV sets.
The reality, IMO, is that adopting streaming is the first step towards the MP3 route. Meaning, a huge step back in quality and a pattern that follows the music industry. Films will become a throwaway media, watch once and then onto the next. The quality will be SD for a very low price per month or HD for a higher subscription. In my opinion, we are already seeing the seeds of this with Netflix'es upcoming SD only option. Yes, sell through will still exist, but it won't be big business. The subscription model will see to that. Say something like Spotify, for the sake of argument.
Device wise, obviously disc based media promotes home viewing and that's great. With streaming tech obviously smartphones, tablets and even smartwatches (yes I am serious) come into play. This generation of youngsters are used to watching movies and tv on their smartphones, that will be their source for the likes of Hulu, Netflix etc.. At the moment we still have our TV sets but for those of us still in our twenties or thirties, a world without the living room tv is a real possibility. I believe it will be tablets and smartphones that will be the target of this new world with big screens an afterthought. Eventually we will be a minority, a bit like being a bluray collector now. Personal devices will take over because IMO, people are becoming drones staring at their small screens. If this upcoming gen are more interested in Facebook, candy crush etc it stands to reason that they won't care about a depleted viewing experience when watching a movie, as long as it is cheap. So, by all means carry on with the streaming but don't cry people when we are no longer able to do the home cinema 'thing'. IMO, all you guys that buy into this new age are sealing the fate of the big screen and with tv sales suffering we need all the home cinema fans we can get.

I will get the usual suspects giving me the usual comments but people may look back on this post and see that it was very close to the truth. So, streaming wins, home cinema dies and that is something I can't bear. Let's see the danger signs now rather than leave it too late.

I take it people don't see the same threat I do?

[JeffTheMovieGuy]

There's just something visually appealing about a shelf full of blu-ray movies while I have just under 200 blu-rays I can still look at my incomplete shelf with a smile and just imagine what it will look like a year or two from now.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by JeffTheMovieGuy

There's just something visually appealing about a shelf full of blu-ray movies while I have just under 200 blu-rays I can still look at my incomplete shelf with a smile and just imagine what it will look like a year or two from now.

Ah, those were the days. Now, three shelving units and hundreds of titles later I am running out of space.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I take it people don't see the same threat I do?

I agree with you. I think people will still have some sort of TV for movies and sporting events, but the quality will be rather poor as most people don't care about how it looks.

[koover]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Ah, those were the days. Now, three shelving units and hundreds of titles later I am running out of space.

I actually had to turn my 3rd bedroom into a media room once the count got up there. The room is really cool and it's my escape space. BUT, I got married, she has a daughter, then bam, that media room now doubles as my office where it was its own separate room before. Now I'm worried because all the custom shelves that were built are now full. I have NOWHERE to go with storage anymore.
But, that's a problem I'm fine with. My wife loves the room along with my daughter. I'm lucky because they both see the difference between BD and streaming. They both literally hate streaming and love seeing and using all the physical media. Imagine that, a 10 year old that loves physical media and sees the difference. Life is good.......then she'll turn 16 and think this is the dumbest room in the house and wonder why I'm not streaming everything so there's more space for a bigger room for her.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by koover

I actually had to turn my 3rd bedroom into a media room once the count got up there. The room is really cool and it's my escape space. BUT, I got married, she has a daughter, then bam, that media room now doubles as my office where it was its own separate room before. Now I'm worried because all the custom shelves that were built are now full. I have NOWHERE to go with storage anymore.
But, that's a problem I'm fine with. My wife loves the room along with my daughter. I'm lucky because they both see the difference between BD and streaming. They both literally hate streaming and love seeing and using all the physical media. Imagine that, a 10 year old that loves physical media and sees the difference. Life is good.......then she'll turn 16 and think this is the dumbest room in the house and wonder why I'm not streaming everything so there's more space for a bigger room for her.

I wish my wife had a similar point of view.