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Old 02-06-2014, 01:15 AM   #181
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I actually just spoke with someone at Disney who told me there would be a 3D blu still coming out but he didn't know when. He said that even thought its been cancelled they will in fact be releasing it but they don't have the details on when yet. He mentioned that they should be getting more info after the initial blu-ray release.

I have no idea how reliable this is, so take it with a grain of salt. He could have been miss informed or it could be real. Won't know until after the release apparently. Either way, id say its a possibility that there were some upset loyal Disney customers and that might be effecting the decision. Or its another plan to inflate sales. Maybe if more people refuse the 2D blu and or voice their opinion it'll help.
If there is, my bet would be a couple years from now after the initial release goes in the vault.
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Old 02-06-2014, 03:48 AM   #182
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If there is, my bet would be a couple years from now after the initial release goes in the vault.
Nah, it will most likely be a winter-themed release this fall.
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Old 02-06-2014, 05:03 AM   #183
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Vudu 3D isn't even supported on a lot of 3D equipment, so I couldn't buy that at $35 even if I wanted to. Regardless, I only use that for rentals, I will NEVER switch to buying movies that way.
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Old 02-06-2014, 04:10 PM   #184
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Vudu 3D isn't even supported on a lot of 3D equipment, so I couldn't buy that at $35 even if I wanted to. Regardless, I only use that for rentals, I will NEVER switch to buying movies that way.
Trust me a HUGE MAJORITY feel this way
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:15 PM   #185
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Yes id say it would be relatively soon. I doubt they'd wait years. Can't say its not a good strategy just not the best decision o keep people happy. I buy every Disney 3d blu ray the day its released even if I pay full price. So when they do stuff like this and I just have to wait its a bummer.

Oh well though. I just hope this doesn't become a reoccurring issue. I might lose interest in the whole process pretty quick.
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Old 02-06-2014, 06:21 PM   #186
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It's pretty crappy scenario all around. We vote with our money and if we want them to avoid this crap again, buy the 3D even if you have to rebuy or sell the 2D Blu.

The one 3D Disney I could not wait to buy...sigh.
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Old 02-07-2014, 01:04 AM   #187
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I can understand Disney wanting to experiment by offering the 3D as a digital release only, but for $35.00? That is insane and doomed to fail. Perhaps if they were selling it for $15.00, people might buy into a digital only 3D release, but at $35.00, that's $7.00 more expensive than what it costs to preorder the UK region free 3D/2D bluray combo pack and that's including shipping to the US.
$35 is insane, agreed, for a digital only version, let alone a regular blu ray 3D. Disney charges a lot more for their movies and that makes many think twice about such a high price.
I think movie studios are trying to emulate what Video Games are doing by getting closer to the $59.99 price point. That would be the day... Charge too much for anything and most people will wait.

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Vudu 3D isn't even supported on a lot of 3D equipment, so I couldn't buy that at $35 even if I wanted to. Regardless, I only use that for rentals, I will NEVER switch to buying movies that way.
Agreed. Digital only is where manufacturers are trying to push home entertainment media, music and video. Not only does it avoid the cost of production and distribution, but also deters some piracy with special codes required to play it back, or forcing you to connect online to verify the movie is yours. XBox One found out the hard way, most people aren't ready for that style of "owning" something, because it's only leasing it if you can't watch it without having to connect online with a 'lock' attached to your movie.

I wonder who is in charge at Disney of Movie Releases for home video? They are probably also responsible for what happened with Oz Great and Powerful being a single 3D disc only for 35.99$ on release week. And Iron Man 3 3D being 35.99 most places on opening week of sales.
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:34 AM   #188
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I may just buy the digital copy codes from someone on here for $5 and then wait for the official US 3D release.
Kids know how to stream from Apple TV & Vudu, though I always buy the bluray and the digital copies are for backup/lazy times
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Old 02-07-2014, 10:04 PM   #189
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I actually just spoke with someone at Disney who told me there would be a 3D blu still coming out but he didn't know when. He said that even thought its been cancelled they will in fact be releasing it but they don't have the details on when yet. He mentioned that they should be getting more info after the initial blu-ray release.

I have no idea how reliable this is, so take it with a grain of salt. He could have been miss informed or it could be real. Won't know until after the release apparently. Either way, id say its a possibility that there were some upset loyal Disney customers and that might be effecting the decision. Or its another plan to inflate sales. Maybe if more people refuse the 2D blu and or voice their opinion it'll help.
I'm sure its very reliable, they are going to get people to double dip.
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Old 02-08-2014, 12:25 AM   #190
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If there is, my bet would be a couple years from now after the initial release goes in the vault.
"In the vault"?? What is this, a Diamond release all of a sudden?

(insert usual clueless "Yeah, maybe they'll make it one 'cause it's a new classic!" List-watchers discussion)
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Old 02-08-2014, 07:22 PM   #191
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Preordered the UK 3D Blu-ray and Gravity 3D Steel from Amazon.uk.
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Old 02-08-2014, 08:59 PM   #192
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I have read this thread and am really disgusted with Disney. This was their best animated movie in years, and they stab all of us Blu-ray 3D fans in the back. We should start a petition and scour Facebook, You Tube for fan pages of Disney, Frozen, ect and get them to sign, we need to show some power here. I for one will NOT buy a digital version. I do not buy digital movies. Sure it may be the future but I will buy discs until the very last day they are available!

I am ordering from Amazon UK. Might I suggest to some people here that the best thing to do is buy a region free player. I have over 50 blu-ray 3D discs imported from Amazon UK and Germany, and I went by the reviews to make sure the 3D was decent. There's alot of material for those in the U.S. in 3D on Blu-ray if you have an open region player.
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:27 PM   #193
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I have read this thread and am really disgusted with Disney. This was their best animated movie in years, and they stab all of us Blu-ray 3D fans in the back. We should start a petition and scour Facebook, You Tube for fan pages of Disney, Frozen, ect and get them to sign, we need to show some power here. I for one will NOT buy a digital version. I do not buy digital movies. Sure it may be the future but I will buy discs until the very last day they are available!
Good--And while they're working on the US 3D edition they've ALREADY PRIVATELY CONFESSED was held up due to manufacturing issues, it'll show our continuing support for their 3D line.
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Old 02-08-2014, 09:28 PM   #194
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Not all imports require a region-free player.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:42 AM   #195
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Good--And while they're working on the US 3D edition they've ALREADY PRIVATELY CONFESSED was held up due to manufacturing issues, it'll show our continuing support for their 3D line.
Sorry but I don't believe one single post, and if it were true, how could they format the UK edition?

Listen, if a US version is announced before the UK edition comes out, I will gladly change to the US edition, but I am not going to wait a long time after March.
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Old 02-09-2014, 02:43 AM   #196
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Not all imports require a region-free player.
True but there are alot of good ones I have that are locked.
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Old 02-09-2014, 03:54 AM   #197
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Sorry but I don't believe one single post, and if it were true, how could they format the UK edition?

Listen, if a US version is announced before the UK edition comes out, I will gladly change to the US edition, but I am not going to wait a long time after March.
Probably the difference between PAL / NTSC would be a contributing factor - from what I recall, that was a large part of the reason in the delay of "Aladdin" in the U.S. compared to Europe / Australia etc.
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Probably the difference between PAL / NTSC would be a contributing factor - from what I recall, that was a large part of the reason in the delay of "Aladdin" in the U.S. compared to Europe / Australia etc.
But the UK Blu is region-free.
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:41 AM   #199
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Sorry but I don't believe one single post, and if it were true, how could they format the UK edition?
WHAT UK edition? Do you actually have one yet?
Show us a picture of the unboxing, I can't wait to see it!

If not....I'm going on a lot more than one post.

(All this talk of "greed", it is too easy a motive, it keeps us from looking at the true picture. But Hercule, he uses ze little gray cells--Why, I ask myself, do we have the digital, but non, not for the shiny silver disk? Then, I find the answer: Maybe it is because someone, he cannot make the disk...)

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Seriously, though: Why was I spared? How did I develop the almost lone genetic immunity in my system to the mass hysteria of conspiracy theories, finger pointing, early 3D funerals and corporate demonizing, and looked at real-world factors almost from the get-go? I have a theory:

While I still hope to see EVERY 3D movie on shelves, ehh, personally, I didn't much care for this movie....I'd love to see it released like I'd like to see them all released, but as far as my thirty-five bucks goes, I was planning to give it a pass. THAT, I think, must be the crucial missing factor: Because I'd sat out most of Frozen-Mania, and have no personally vested emotional stake in seeing the movie come out tomorrow (and waiting till November is no skin off my nose), I haven't had some deep meaningful wish and hope of my psyche cruelly taken away from me, and my reaction was completely rerouted around the usual subconscious vestige of the 5-yo. who was promised an ice-cream cone and now suddenly learns he's not going to get one.
By tradition, how does that 5-yo. psychologically react?
1) Safely-distanced explanation: Outside-forces Bad People caused it. ("Disney listened to all those articles that 3D Is Dead, and now they're shutting down their entire division and not making any more ever again!")
2) Blame: Accuse the most directly available source in being personally mean in depriving it. ("They're just trying to wring more money out of us! They'll make us buy the 2D, and then put out another edition in November for $40, just watch!")
3) Intimidation: Let people know you're angry about it. ("I just sent an e-mail saying 'Disney, you suck!'")
4) Bargaining: Try to "buy" the act with other off-topic acts of goodness. ("Maybe if we bought more of the 3D editions, they'd know it was still popular, and rush it out right away!")
5) Charm: Hope that if you ask nicely and cutely, it will soften the heart of the person holding out on you. ("We should organize a letter/petition campaign, telling them of our continuing support for Disney 3D!")
6) Precedent: Try to persuade the source that he is forced by similar history to follow a previous example that went well. ("Disney did a separate 3D disk for Oz!")
7) Fairness and Equality: Point out how other people you know are getting it without complaint, so why shouldn't you? ("The UK says they're still getting their edition!")
8) Other channels: Try to reroute the request through someone else who could make it happen, like Grandma. ("Have we heard the director's view on why Disney isn't producing a 3D version?")
9) Backup plans: Try to get it anyway, without having to ask authority. ("What's the best website for buying region-free UK releases?")

It's too easy a cliche' to say "Grow up!", but what exactly does that mean? Usually it means that a child is self-centered and does not see his place in the world as opposed to what he wants, and an adult (hopefully) has been around enough to know that, well, things can happen.
At what age did you first think back and realize, okay, maybe there was a REASON your parents didn't get you that pony for your birthday?

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So if everyone is buying the UK version......will Disney even care since they are still getting their money?
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