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Old 02-10-2014, 10:10 AM   #101
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Lately they've been using Pecopak SB1 mailers because of Royal Mail's volumetric charging for domestic mail. These are pretty good and I've never had a damaged steelbook from Amazon. Since different overseas mail is not volumetrically charged they may pack differently. When I order from overseas branches of Amazon I always order at least two items, postage is cheaper and packing is better.
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Lately they've been using Pecopak SB1 mailers because of Royal Mail's volumetric charging for domestic mail. These are pretty good and I've never had a damaged steelbook from Amazon. Since different overseas mail is not volumetrically charged they may pack differently. When I order from overseas branches of Amazon I always order at least two items, postage is cheaper and packing is better.
Only Amazon UK and Germany appear to use custom steelbook mailers

Italy, Spain and France just use their standard card pouch mailers, hence if buying a steelbook from any of them, I try and add a few more items to the order to get slightly better packaging.

The biggest joke are Amazon Canada who use the same crappy thin jiffy bags they use for regular orders. My one and only steelbook buy from them had the steelbook bent through 30 degrees as no protection what so ever. They sent a replacement and told me don't bother returning the damaged one. It arrived undamaged on the outside but one of the inside plastic bits that can hold in a booklet was snapped off. Could not be bothered complaining again.
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Old 02-14-2014, 08:30 PM   #103
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Region Free?????
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:16 PM   #104
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Region Free?????
When was the last time Universal released a region locked Blu-ray?

Safe to assume this is region free
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:09 PM   #105
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Region Free?????
How are you Blu-ray Ninja rank status when you don't even know something as simple as Universal never locks their titles. Like seriously.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:38 PM   #106
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How are you Blu-ray Ninja rank status when you don't even know something as simple as Universal never locks their titles. Like seriously.
No offence but those status things don't actually mean anything in reality
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:53 PM   #107
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How are you Blu-ray Ninja rank status when you don't even know something as simple as Universal never locks their titles. Like seriously.
That's incorrect. I would say 95% of their releases are region free. They have released region locked blu ray in past. Top of the head I think, Transporter 3 steelbook in Germany.

Also I think you can be bit more humble with your reply
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:45 PM   #108
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No offence but those status things don't actually mean anything in reality
I would like think that they do mean something. When you keep that active in forums specially to rank amongst "Blu-ray Ninja" status you have to have at least the basic knowledge about what is what, what does what, etc.

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That's incorrect. I would say 95% of their releases are region free. They have released region locked blu ray in past. Top of the head I think, Transporter 3 steelbook in Germany.

Also I think you can be bit more humble with your reply
Not entirely incorrect, as far as I know Universal in the US has never locked any of their titles. And this is a UK thread, they never lock their titles either. Germany could be a different story.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:35 AM   #109
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How are you Blu-ray Ninja rank status when you don't even know something as simple as Universal never locks their titles. Like seriously.
Sorry ... but I have preordered it on amazon.co.uk and it says region B and in this data base (bluray.com/UK) says region B as well and I dont have any bluray player region free , I try with my pS3 but it didnt work...

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Old 02-15-2014, 04:42 AM   #110
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I would like think that they do mean something. When you keep that active in forums specially to rank amongst "Blu-ray Ninja" status you have to have at least the basic knowledge about what is what, what does what, etc.



Not entirely incorrect, as far as I know Universal in the US has never locked any of their titles. And this is a UK thread, they never lock their titles either. Germany could be a different story.
Fair enough. But your reply implied that universal releases are region free worldwide and that's why I said not always
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Old 02-15-2014, 05:20 AM   #111
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Fair enough. But your reply implied that universal releases are region free worldwide and that's why I said not always
By the way you are far from being correct. I did a better research to back up my statement and Universum is not even affiliated with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment in the least bit. They are totally different studios.

Transporter 3 was released by Universum which is a German film industry corporation, seems to be an independent studio that purchases international licenses from different US studios.

I rest my case that Universal Pictures Blu-ray's (not Universum) is and will always be Region Free. No matter what part of the world it is. Hence the name "Universal"
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:20 AM   #112
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By the way you are far from being correct. I did a better research to back up my statement and Universum is not even affiliated with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment in the least bit. They are totally different studios.

Transporter 3 was released by Universum which is a German film industry corporation, seems to be an independent studio that purchases international licenses from different US studios.

I rest my case that Universal Pictures Blu-ray's (not Universum) is and will always be Region Free. No matter what part of the world it is. Hence the name "Universal"
Even if Paramount own the distribution rights outside of Europe? You said that they are always region free, but that's simply not true.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:27 AM   #113
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The only Universal BD I can think of that's Region B locked is the F1 Season Review 2011. And that's probably because they were just the distributor whilst the content was owned by another party.
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Old 02-15-2014, 08:31 AM   #114
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By the way you are far from being correct. I did a better research to back up my statement and Universum is not even affiliated with Universal Pictures Home Entertainment in the least bit. They are totally different studios.

Transporter 3 was released by Universum which is a German film industry corporation, seems to be an independent studio that purchases international licenses from different US studios.

I rest my case that Universal Pictures Blu-ray's (not Universum) is and will always be Region Free. No matter what part of the world it is. Hence the name "Universal"
Well, I do have other examples to give but its gonna go back n forth so lets just leave it
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:41 AM   #115
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I would like think that they do mean something. When you keep that active in forums specially to rank amongst "Blu-ray Ninja" status you have to have at least the basic knowledge about what is what, what does what, etc.
Wow. Someone puts far too much stock into their forum titles. So because he asked about Universal's region locking does that mean he should be demoted or what?

Universal UK have done region locking before, it's dependant on who owns the rights outside of the UK (and, as has been pointed out, Wolf of Wall Street is distributed by Paramount in a few countries including the US).

Region B locked titles include David Lynch blu-rays such as Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me and Eraserhead, Citizen Kane, Walkabout, Life's Too Short, Good Vibrations, Take Shelter and, I believe, Downton Abbey.

So the truth is that until someone has a copy of this in hand we won't know 100% about the region status.

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Old 02-15-2014, 06:22 PM   #116
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Even if Paramount own the distribution rights outside of Europe? You said that they are always region free, but that's simply not true.
Paramount has nothing to do in this conversation. We're talking about Universal.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:18 PM   #117
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Paramount has nothing to do in this conversation. We're talking about Universal.
You're missing his point - Universal only control distribution of this film in certain countries. Paramount control it in others. So yes, Paramount does have a place in this conversation - as shown in my precious post Universal do region-lock where they have to and this film, where distribution is split across different territories, may be one of those times.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:21 PM   #118
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This is the only movie I will double dip for if its not region free. I want that steel!
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:52 PM   #119
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You're missing his point - Universal only control distribution of this film in certain countries. Paramount control it in others. So yes, Paramount does have a place in this conversation - as shown in my precious post Universal do region-lock where they have to and this film, where distribution is split across different territories, may be one of those times.
And you seem to be missing mine. This is the UK Steelbook release distributed by Universal were talking about. Paramount is out of the picture here because they own the rights in US territories. Paramount has no business at all here.

"Precious post"? lol
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:04 PM   #120
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And you seem to be missing mine. This is the UK Steelbook release distributed by Universal were talking about. Paramount is out of the picture here because they own the rights in US territories. Paramount has no business at all here.

"Precious post"? lol
Well, that was Freudian - it should have been 'previous'.

I don't know why you keep missing the point here, whether the mention of Paramount is getting in the way, so let's take them out of the equation and ignore them. The facts are -

- Universal do sometimes region-lock if they the distribution rights are split
- The distribution rights for Wolf of Wall Street are split. Doesn't matter who with.
- Therefore, it's possible that this steelbook release may not be region-free

Here's my previous (and precious) post with the examples -

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Universal UK have done region locking before, it's dependent on who owns the rights outside of the UK (and, as has been pointed out, Wolf of Wall Street is distributed by Paramount in a few countries including the US).

Region B locked titles include David Lynch blu-rays such as Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me and Eraserhead, Citizen Kane, Walkabout, Life's Too Short, Good Vibrations, Take Shelter and, I believe, Downton Abbey.

So the truth is that until someone has a copy of this in hand we won't know 100% about the region status.

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