X-Files (series) coming to Blu in ... I want to believe

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by rickah88

A shame others can't do that as well.....

Oh don't worry about me, I don't give a crap what the directors and DPs think is best for the project (unless they want 4:3 of course).

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

Oh don't worry about me, I don't give a crap what the directors and DPs think is best for the project (unless they want 4:3 of course).

Wow.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by tommb84

Not sure if this has been noted yet, but HTV say they are using "iConform" to create HD masters of the X-Files (http://illuminatehollywood.com/illum...s-development/).

If you look at the page that details iConform (http://illuminatehollywood.com/iconform/) it sounds like they say it's all automated? Does this mean a computer decides the crop? I certainly hope not!

iConform was created to aid the process of remastering shows which were shot on film and edited on video but which have no EDL's to match up the unedited camera negative with the final SD master*.

Instead of going through rolls and rolls and rolls of film and matching them to the master by eye, illuminate's system loads up all the scanned footage and the SD master and matches them via an automated process, with a claimed success rate of 95% of footage matched digitally, the other 5% by eye.

Their marketing bumpf mentions that the system can "replicate
images that were repositioned", but says nothing about reframing it after the fact. I'd imagine that the 16:9 decisions were solely in Fox's hands.

http://illuminatehollywood.com/wp-co...ginal-film.pdf

*This was said to be the reason why Warners didn't do the extended versions of Friends on Blu-ray; they already had a cut negative of the broadcast versions but had no EDL's for the extended scenes, so they didn't bother digging through their archives to find the relevant trims for the Blu-rays (needle, haystack, etc). But the iConform process would appear to no longer give them any excuse...

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

So what. You saw the fake ceiling in Malcolm in the Middle all the time... didn't ruin the experience because the acting was so great.

That reminds me....I remember seeing some eps of MitM on TV which had been opened up to widescreen from the original 4:3. Will this 16:9 madness never end? Oh the huge manatee!

[EddieLarkin]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Wow.

Orson Welles himself could come back from the dead and declare that Citizen Kane should now be 16:9 since that is the screen dimension everyone uses now, and I'd still tell him where to go. This is no different; the directors and DPs of The X-Files composed for one single ratio, regardless of any protection. I want it in that one correct ratio.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

Orson Welles himself could come back from the dead and declare that Citizen Kane should now be 16:9 since that is the screen dimension everyone uses now, and I'd still tell him where to go. This is no different; the directors and DPs of The X-Files composed for one single ratio, regardless of any protection. I want it in that one correct ratio.

Even more wow.
Kind of what I thought, based on your posts...thankfully I agree with you 0%.

[EddieLarkin]

So, you're saying that what a director wants today takes precedence over what he actually did when he made the film, which may be decades after the fact? If Welles wanted to colourise Citizen Kane today, stating that he "always wanted to do it in colour", you'd be behind him on that too (his intention being, to restrict the original non-colourised version from distribution)?

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Oscar Rothman

So what?

I don't think they can merge threads that go back so far...I think.
Usually if there is a bigger thread, they might just lock the smaller one.

If I'm wrong, then I'm all for the merging, as it keeps things neat & tidy!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

So, you're saying that what a director wants today takes precedence over what he actually did when he made the film, which may be decades after the fact? If Welles wanted to colourise Citizen Kane today, stating that he "always wanted to do it in colour", you'd be behind him on that too (his intention being, to restrict the original non-colourised version from distribution)?

Of course! As I said: It's their artwork, not mine, not yours.
I've always held this stance even with George Lucas and Star Wars. Yes it would be nice to have the OT, on BD, but I respect the artist's decision. Same goes for the X-Files. Which is why I'm fine with either aspect ratio.
Unlike some people.

[focuspuller]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course! As I said: It's their artwork, not mine, not yours.
I've always held this stance even with George Lucas and Star Wars. Yes it would be nice to have the OT, on BD, but I respect the artist's decision. Same goes for the X-Files. Which is why I'm fine with either aspect ratio.
Unlike some people.

I'm not buying the X-files Blu-rays unless they are cropped, colorized, dubbed, and contain Jar-Jar.

I respect the artist's decision too much to not want those things.

[Sansui01]

Originally Posted by focuspuller

I'm not buying the X-files Blu-rays unless they are cropped, colorized, dubbed, and contain Jar-Jar.

I respect the artist's decision too much to not want those things.

Apples and oranges my friend.. Not same thing.

Originally Posted by EddieLarkin

So, you're saying that what a director wants today takes precedence over what he actually did when he made the film, which may be decades after the fact? If Welles wanted to colourise Citizen Kane today, stating that he "always wanted to do it in colour", you'd be behind him on that too (his intention being, to restrict the original non-colourised version from distribution)?

Who is restricting what exactly? All i hear how you want to restrict widescreen version, because you don't like it.. So, it should be fullscreen because you like it that way, tough, i don't like it that way and all copies of the show must be exterminated. Gather them and burn them i say! Widescreen will rule! HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Why shouldn't both versions exist? Let them put both versions out so everybody can watch it the way they prefer.. It can either be widescreen version, or can be a hidious fullscreen version. I know which one i will buy.. (This is all my opinion of course and i'm just putting a few jokes so this argument can end.. WHY are we even discussing this? Like as if we get any say in this.)

[focuspuller]

Originally Posted by Sansui01

Apples and oranges my friend.. Not same thing.



Who is restricting what exactly? All i hear how you want to restrict widescreen version, because you don't like it.. So, it should be fullscreen because you like it that way, tough, i don't like it that way and all copies of the show must be exterminated. Gather them and burn them i say! Widescreen will rule! HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Why shouldn't both versions exist? Let them put both versions out so everybody can watch it the way they prefer.. It can either be widescreen version, or can be a hidious fullscreen version. I know which one i will buy.. (This is all my opinion of course and i'm just putting a few jokes so this argument can end.. WHY are we even discussing this? Like as if we get any say in this.)

What about a widescreen black & white version?

[Sansui01]

Originally Posted by focuspuller

What about a widescreen black & white version?

Don't temp me, i will start a petition to make it so.. I think a black&white&purple version with occasional Samuel Jackson cameo would be great.. Lets make it so!

(Again, apples and oranges.. But i doubt you will see the point.. So lets f*** it all! Certainly, this discussion will get us nowhere. EddieLarkin said if Orson Welles got resurrected only to make Citizen Kane widescreen, he would show him the finger and do something bad to him.. I'm not clear on the concept.. After that, this topic is doomed, Orson Welles will haunt us.)

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by focuspuller

I'm not buying the X-files Blu-rays unless they are cropped, colorized, dubbed, and contain Jar-Jar.

I respect the artist's decision too much to not want those things.

Meesa wants to belieeeevesa.

Originally Posted by Sansui01

Apples and oranges my friend..

[Show spoiler]Not same thing.



Who is restricting what exactly? All i hear how you want to restrict widescreen version, because you don't like it.. So, it should be fullscreen because you like it that way, tough, i don't like it that way and all copies of the show must be exterminated. Gather them and burn them i say! Widescreen will rule! HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Why shouldn't both versions exist? Let them put both versions out so everybody can watch it the way they prefer.. It can either be widescreen version, or can be a hidious fullscreen version. I know which one i will buy.. (This is all my opinion of course and i'm just putting a few jokes so this argument can end.. WHY are we even discussing this? Like as if we get any say in this.)

You're right. They should replace Mulder with an apple and Scully with an orange, or I won't be buying it.


By the way, welcome to the site!

[Sansui01]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Meesa wants to belieeeevesa.






You're right. They should replace Mulder with an apple and Scully with an orange, or I won't be buying it.


By the way, welcome to the site!

Thanks! It is good to be here.

You got some good ideas, i think the smoking man should be replaced with an avocado, Walter Skinner should be replaced with a strawberry and aliens should be represented as a fruit slicer. Hmm.. It can bring some additional dept to the show i think...



Oh the horror. Too much gore!

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Sansui01

After that, this topic is doomed, Orson Welles will haunt us.)

But not before he's done a sherry advert and a voiceover for Transformers.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But not before he's done a sherry advert and a voiceover for Transformers.

It's a crime that isn't widely available, on BD....a crime, I say!

[Sansui01]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

But not before he's done a sherry advert and a voiceover for Transformers.

He can do both on one take by playing a transformer that gets his power from drinking sherry. You know, like Popeye, but instead of being a sailor, he is a robot car thingy and instead of eating spinach, he drinks sherry.. A perfect plan... Let the money roll, with these ideas and a few obligatory explosions, we got a new script for the next transformers movie... All thanks to the Orson Welles who got resurrected just for this movie... and to haunt this forum.

[frogmort]

Originally Posted by Sansui01

Thanks! It is good to be here.

You got some good ideas, i think the smoking man should be replaced with an avocado, Walter Skinner should be replaced with a strawberry and aliens should be represented as a fruit slicer. Hmm.. It can bring some additional dept to the show i think...

[Show spoiler]

Oh the horror. Too much gore!

I completely agree with all of that except for Skinner. He should be replaced with a potato.



If you'll notice, the potato is better framed too, as the top of Skinner's head wasn't protected for in that shot.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rickah88

It's a crime that isn't widely available, on BD....a crime, I say!

Just get the Aussie one.