Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[chris_sc77]

Originally Posted by Bucky

That was one of Oldman's best performances.

Tiptoes is amazing. I really thought it was one of those funny or die fake movie trailers but it amazingly actually exists and its such an awful yet enjoyable anomaly.

[cinemaphile]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Disney's not casting the movie, LucasFilm is. Disney doesn't cast the Marvel movies, they don't cast the Pixar films, and they won't be casting the Star Wars films.

This is correct

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Don't be naive.

Lucasfilm (just like Marvel) operates as their own entity in terms of filmmaking. Disney is the distribution and marketing muscle behind it.

[willo007]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

This is correct

Lucasfilm (just like Marvel) operates as their own entity in terms of filmmaking. Disney is the distribution and marketing muscle behind it.

Whait a moment, so what you are saying is that Disney paid 4 Billion dollars to distribute movies? and has no part in the making of such films? and that Disney upon purchasing LucasFilms LDT did not mandate for a new trilogy? Or to quote USAToday article in reagrds the purchase by Disney..... "Disney expects to more aggressively expand the Star Wars film schedule, Iger said in a statement. Following the release of Episode VII in 2015, "our long term plan is to release a new Star Wars feature film every two to three years,".

I dont know about you, but, it appears to sugest to the article is that Disney IS in charge, and in regards to Marvel, they Paid $3.96 fo Marvel in August 2009 for the similar thing.

Now, let me see, what was that that the Disney CEO Robert Iger said: "As far as the legacy George has created, we don't take that lightly," Disney chief Iger said. "We definitely plan to expand the presence of Star Wars in our parks which could include new parks."

That still sound like Disney calls all the shots. I think am gonna go with what the CEO of Disney said rather than what a fanboys opinion is.

Now, lets make it clear, the people who work at Lucasfilms & Marvel, work for Disney, if Disney doesnt like the casting choices, its up to Disney, not the other way around. Who bought who? is the question.



usa today article: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/...sfilm/1669739/

[spanky87]

How young do you think this new generation will be? If these characters are supposed to be Skywalkers, and most likely Han and Leia's children, then shouldn't they be like 25-30 at the youngest by now?

Will they be grandchildren, or will Han and Leia be older parents that have kids in their 40's?

[aiman04]

Of course Disney has the final say, they own it. But Lucasfilm is responsible for the production, they do the casting, everything from A to Z. However, Disney can have suggestions or instructions, able to intervene and stop something if the don't agree to. This is how big corporations work, not only in movie business.

But yes, some studios wants to control everything, but given Disney's record with Marvel they're very hands off. Given that Marvel is owned by them they shouldn't be worry much, same with Lucasfilm.

[Offender_Mullet]

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[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by cinemaphile

This is correct

Lucasfilm (just like Marvel) operates as their own entity in terms of filmmaking. Disney is the distribution and marketing muscle behind it.

I worked for ABC. Disney gets involved. Trust me.

[Delta09]

Originally Posted by Walts Ghost

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Awesome!!!

[reason108]

I am sure that it will be an commercial hit. But, I just hope that they do not play it too safe. Lucas always added that bit of "edge" to the series. It was his and he could do whatever the heck he wanted with it. Well, that may have been what he was thinking. But, he did take risks with the series. As we all know, some of his ideas are well loved and have influenced generations and other choices he made, not so much. When Lucas failed, he failed big (Jar Jar or for some the whole prequels for example). I would like for SW to push forward and take new risks and not feel that they have to retread the same old ground.


Now, we need to bring Lucas back from retirement and have him direct the next Star Trek movie. Now, that would make some people freak out! And, plan it for release the same year as one of the new SW films will get released. Fanboys would explode all over the world.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

Don't be naive.

Uninformed cynicism is its own form of naivety.

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by willo007

Whait a moment, so what you are saying is that Disney paid 4 Billion dollars to distribute movies?

That's not what anyone is saying. Disney gets a cut from Pixar and from Marvel, and they make a fortune in merchandise. In terms of the creative cultures, Disney pretty much leaves Pixar, Marvel, and LucasFilm alone. That's why Lucas felt comfortable selling his studio to Disney and retiring in the first place.

and has no part in the making of such films? and that Disney upon purchasing LucasFilms LDT did not mandate for a new trilogy?

No, Lucas working on the new trilogy before he approached Iger. Before agreeing to purchase the company, Iger asked to see the treatments for the new films so that he knew what the studio was buying. Lucas initially refused, but finally caved after forcing Disney to first agree in writing to the broad outlines of the merger (which included the sequels). Eventually, Iger was one of three people at Disney allowed to see the outlines, and Iger allegedly was confident in the storytelling opportunities. Disney didn't mandate anything.

Or to quote USAToday article in reagrds the purchase by Disney..... "Disney expects to more aggressively expand the Star Wars film schedule, Iger said in a statement. Following the release of Episode VII in 2015, "our long term plan is to release a new Star Wars feature film every two to three years,"

Every two to three years isn't that much different than how Lucas did it.

I dont know about you, but, it appears to sugest to the article is that Disney IS in charge, and in regards to Marvel, they Paid $3.96 fo Marvel in August 2009 for the similar thing.

And Disney leaves them alone, too.

Now, let me see, what was that that the Disney CEO Robert Iger said: "As far as the legacy George has created, we don't take that lightly," Disney chief Iger said. "We definitely plan to expand the presence of Star Wars in our parks which could include new parks."

He'd be irresponsible NOT to expand Star Wars in the theme parks. Theme parks, however, are like other forms of ancillary revenue streams -- in a way, no different than a T-shirt. Yeah, Disney is going to try and make money on all those toys and books and theme park tickets...but they don't stick their fingers into Pixar's business vis-à-vis their culture or creative processes, or Marvel's, and the same thing applies here with LucasFilm. Lucas wanted his people running LucasFilm, with a minimum of interference. Lucas was impressed with Iger's handling of Pixar and Marvel, that's why he was comfortable selling his legacy to Disney.

I think am gonna go with what the CEO of Disney said rather than what a fanboys opinion is.

It's not an opinion.

"Disney may have a light touch with the moviemaking at Pixar and Marvel, but it happily uses their characters and worlds to bolster its other businesses...Lucas had paid close attention to how Disney had handled Pixar, which he still refers to as “my company.” He founded it as the Lucasfilm Computer Division in 1979, and sold it to Jobs six years later. He calls Disney’s decision not to meddle with Pixar “brilliant.” If he sold Lucasfilm to Disney, he figured there might still be a way to retain some influence over his fictitious universe. Much would depend on who ran Lucasfilm after he retired.

He invited Kathleen Kennedy to lunch in New York. She was one of the founders of Amblin Entertainment, which produced a long line of hits including Steven Spielberg’s Jurassic Park and Schindler’s List, and had been Lucas’s close friend for more than two decades. “I suppose you’ve heard that I’m moving forward fairly aggressively to retire,” Lucas told her.

“Actually, no,” she said.

Lucas asked if she was interested in taking over Lucasfilm. Kennedy may have been blindsided by the news, but she happily accepted the position. “When Kathy came on, we started talking about starting up the whole franchise again,” he says. “I was pulling away, and I said, ‘Well, I’ve got to build this company up so it functions without me, and we need to do something to make it attractive.’ So I said, ‘Well, let’s just do these movies.’ ”
-- BusinessWeek

Now, lets make it clear, the people who work at Lucasfilms & Marvel, work for Disney, if Disney doesnt like the casting choices, its up to Disney, not the other way around. Who bought who? is the question.

Disney has final say -- they just don't say anything unless they really, really feel they have to (pretty sure they'd put their foot down if Kennedy wanted to make, Jar-Jar Goes to Vegas, or cast Carrot Top as a young Han Solo). That's what's clear to me.

[OrlandoEastwood]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Gary Oldman is one of my favorites. I would love for them to get him for this. I really like his more serious roles, but also really liked his neo-redneck accent as Zorg.

Jean-Baptise Emanuelle Zorg!

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks

I worked for ABC. Disney gets involved. Trust me.

ABC isn't Marvel, Pixar, or LucasFilm. ABC was in the gutter when Disney purchased it, and they've still struggled after. Nobody said Disney treats every acquisition equally, but it was Iger's handling of Pixar and Marvel that impressed Lucas and made him comfortable enough to sell his corporation to the Mouse, and that's how Iger's playing it.

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

ABC isn't Marvel, Pixar, or LucasFilm. ABC was in the gutter when Disney purchased it, and they've still struggled after. Nobody said Disney treats every acquisition equally, but it was Iger's handling of Pixar and Marvel that impressed Lucas and made him comfortable enough to sell his corporation to the Mouse, and that's how Iger's playing it.

Funny because it seems to me that ever since Disney acquired Pixar, Pixar has slowly been getting crappier and crappier while Disney's own in-house CG animation studio is getting better and better. One may have absolutely nothing to do with the other but it's a funny coincidence IMO.

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Funny because it seems to me that ever since Disney acquired Pixar, Pixar has slowly been getting crappier and crappier while Disney's own in-house CG animation studio is getting better and better. One may have absolutely nothing to do with the other but it's a funny coincidence IMO.

Pixar had too high a bar to live up to forever. Was Cars a Pixar under Disney production? I don't think it was, and it if wasn't, the downward trend had already begun.

Fortunately, for Disney, Lucas has already set the bar much lower for Star Wars.

[rickah88]

Yeah, no...I never got the memo that since 2006 Pixar has gotten "crappier and crappier".
Wall-E, Up and Brave being the best, the others being very good. But that's just my opinion.

[Braktastic]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Yeah, no...I never got the memo that since 2006 Pixar has gotten "crappier and crappier".
Wall-E, Up and Brave being the best, the others being very good. But that's just my opinion.

It was not my intention to say Pixar had gotten "crappier and crappier" since 2006, but Cars was the first production where the bloom was off the rose for me and with the critics as well. I was simply saying that wasn't Disney's fault, and it's hard to hit home runs forever.

[Jar Jar Stinks]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

ABC isn't Marvel, Pixar, or LucasFilm. ABC was in the gutter when Disney purchased it, and they've still struggled after. Nobody said Disney treats every acquisition equally, but it was Iger's handling of Pixar and Marvel that impressed Lucas and made him comfortable enough to sell his corporation to the Mouse, and that's how Iger's playing it.

Have you worked for Disney or its affiliates? Didn't John Lasseter become the head of Disney animation after pixar's acquisition? Didn't Disney dictate the release date for Episode VII?

[Steelmaker]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Yeah, no...I never got the memo that since 2006 Pixar has gotten "crappier and crappier".
Wall-E, Up and Brave being the best, the others being very good. But that's just my opinion.

Wall-E IMO is Pixars finest movie. However I'm sure that one was well into production by the time Disney acquired Pixar. Up is VASTLY overrated and Brave is not that good either. Cars 2 and Monsters University were crap.

I don't understand the flack that Cars 1 gets though. I think that one is very entertaining and it actually has a heart. I sure hope the next Pixar movie is better (the dinosaur movie) because it just feels to me like Pixar is on a bit of a downward slide, especially since Toy Story 3.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Steelmaker

Wall-E IMO is Pixars finest movie. However I'm sure that one was well into production by the time Disney acquired Pixar. Up is VASTLY overrated and Brave is not that good either. Cars 2 and Monsters University were crap.

I don't understand the flack that Cars 1 gets though. I think that one is very entertaining and it actually has a heart. I sure hope the next Pixar movie is better (the dinosaur movie) because it just feels to me like Pixar is on a bit of a downward slide, especially since Toy Story 3.

Well...we all have opinions. I've never been let down by a Pixar film yet...but that's just me.