PS3 vs BDP-S350 vs s550

[prerich]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

I agree. Up until recently, though, the PS3 was far and away the best player out there in terms of specs, speed, and compatibility. It was inevitable and important that standlones catch up, but now that they have, all the PS3 pushing needs to stop. It's definitely a quality player (its the one I use) but if you want ir, multi-channel analog outputs, or a design that fits in better with other home theatre gear (and don't care about gaming) then the new standlones (especially the new Sony's) can give you the same experience without the "game system" stigma.

This post is a breath of fresh air, the war is over - we have one format - but many players can co-exist.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by prerich

the war is over - we have one format - but many players can co-exist.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by x64Man

I own 2 PS3's, 44 years young, until the high end $1500 to $2000 players sell for $299 I will own nothing but PS3's or 4's. Yes the 4 will be out before a $2000 player will sell for $299. How quickly people forget what won the war, lets see I will enlighten you, the PS3 won the war so guess thats why you can still come to blu-ray.com and feed us this crap.

Because the site is called bluray.com not PS3.com or sony.com! The PS3 did its part in the "war" but the atomic bomb that dropped on Toshiba was Warner Brothers going exclusive! We must remember that any bluray owner is still a bluray owner - whether it be the PS3, standalone or HTPC. For me it was HTPC that won me over to the blu side (and even then I was purple because I could play both formats for less than a PS3). I just stuck a drive and software into my PC.
This type of thinking really ticks people off! The PS3 is not the only player out there. It is the best bang for the buck out there unless you own a PC system ready for Blu (IMHO). People like different things and I say if the person is talking about bluray - they can come here all they like...Remember, the site is called www.blu-ray.com

[tilallr1]

PS3 hands down. I think its time people let go of the video game console phobia and embrase it as a home entertainment system. The first of its kind. Sure it plays video games / music / browse the internet / stream video / play dvds upconverted / blu-ray movies / etc ... But doesn't that just make it more bang for your buck. Why spend the same price on a stand alone player when the video quality is the same but your not getting even a nickel of the same features. A stand alone player seems like such a huge waste of money to me. I think stand-alone players (if they remain at competitive prices with the PS3) will go the way of the dinosaur in the future. At least, this will be more true as the older generation (who are ignorant of technology) die off.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by tilallr1

PS3 hands down. I think its time people let go of the video game console phobia and embrase it as a home entertainment system. The first of its kind. Sure it plays video games / music / browse the internet / stream video / play dvds upconverted / blu-ray movies / etc ... But doesn't that just make it more bang for your buck. Why spend the same price on a stand alone player when the video quality is the same but your not getting even a nickel of the same features. A stand alone player seems like such a huge waste of money to me. I think stand-alone players (if they remain at competitive prices with the PS3) will go the way of the dinosaur in the future. At least, this will be more true as the older generation (who are ignorant of technology) die off.

It's the first of its kind marketed as such...HTPC'rs have been doing this before Blu or HD-DVD ever came out. We were the first ones with true 1080p content (can anyone say WMV-HD)? The PS3 has more in common with a HTPC than it does a standalone bd player (see my thread in the PC section). Its a great player but people buy according to their own likes, dislikes, and taste. You can get features on a standalone not available with a PS3. People with High end prepros with multi-channel inputs would definately go with a standalone that decodes and sends through the analog outs - I wouldn't want to trash a 4000.00 prepro just to buy a 1000.00 receiver because it has hdmi for audio for my PS3. Different needs people - different needs.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by prerich

Because the site is called bluray.com not PS3.com or sony.com! The PS3 did its part in the "war" but the atomic bomb that dropped on Toshiba was Warner Brothers going exclusive! We must remember that any bluray owner is still a bluray owner - whether it be the PS3, standalone or HTPC. For me it was HTPC that won me over to the blu side (and even then I was purple because I could play both formats for less than a PS3). I just stuck a drive and software into my PC.
This type of thinking really ticks people off! The PS3 is not the only player out there. It is the best bang for the buck out there unless you own a PC system ready for Blu (IMHO). People like different things and I say if the person is talking about bluray - they can come here all they like...Remember, the site is called www.blu-ray.com

WRONG! PS3 won the war..
PS3 = install base = millions sold over standalone and HTPC what a laugher -
Install base = buying BD's
buying BD's = Warner switching
Warner switching = retail switching
retail switching = HD-DVD dead

P S 3 - its in the game. The general public does NOT want to deal with the hassle of building or maintaining a HTPC.. get over it, it's fine for you because its easy for you but you are not the norm.

[x64Man]

Warner Brothers going exclusive!

Would not have happened without the PS3's numbers, plain and simple. I beleive it would be a different story right now if you pulled the PS3's numbers out of the exuation.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

WRONG! PS3 won the war..
PS3 = install base = millions sold over standalone and HTPC what a laugher -
Install base = buying BD's
buying BD's = Warner switching
Warner switching = retail switching

P S 3 - its in the game. The general public does NOT want to deal with the hassle of building or maintaining a HTPC.. get over it.

Hold on 72, remember my train of thought. I said that HTPC won Me over (not everyone else). As stated before during the war hardware never wins a battle like this - its software (hd-dvd price were way below that of a PS3). Available software helped sell the PS3, it being the one player that worked out the box helped its sales, but you can't discount the multitude of Studio backing the title floods during the war (where has that gone to? Those days where fine - cheap prices ect. oh well). The software was winning the war. The PS3 didn't make Toshiba shut down - the fact that they only had Paramount and whatelse? Thats what made them shutdown - WB doesn't go Blu or worst scenerio goes red - we would be in the middle of a red (pun not intended ) hot war right now. The point that I'm getting at is yes the PS3 deserves many aculades but it played no factor with me in going Blu. As a matter of fact most of HTPC buddies can play both formats and the PS3 was not a factor in the war to them either. But people buying media - thats a factor whether you play it on a standalone, HTPC or a PS3.

I doesn't matter which platform won a person over - It just matters that they were won over and technically I really would have to say Disney won me over - I thought about the PS3, but saw the price of PC drives come down and said thats gonna be my ticket to blu. I've been riding that jet plane ever since. I love Disney movies and animated films - so I had to go blu, but how - would never be a rushed decision - it would be well thought out and practical for me.

[tilallr1]

Originally Posted by x64Man

Would not have happened without the PS3's numbers, plain and simple. I beleive it would be a different story right now if you pulled the PS3's numbers out of the exuation.

100% agree. PS3 won the war for Blu-ray. NO ONE CAN ARGUE WITH THE NUMBERS. Like he said Warner made a choice to go with those numbers. Which was that Blu-ray discs were outselling HD-DVD 2 to 1. They were selling high because everyone who had PS3 also had a blu-ray player. So they bought blu-ray movies. Its a simple as that.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by prerich

As stated before during the war hardware never wins a battle like this - its software (hd-dvd price were way below that of a PS3). Available software helped sell the PS3, it being the one player that worked out the box helped its sales, but you can't discount the multitude of Studio backing the title floods during the war (where has that gone to? Those days where fine - cheap prices ect. oh well). The software was winning the war. The PS3 didn't make Toshiba shut down - the fact that they only had Paramount and whatelse?

So Paramount switching helped sell the PS3? If I recall correctly there was ample HD-DVD titles out and about. HDDVD had Paramount, Universal, Dreamworks etc etc.. Studio support had something to do with it but it wasnt the atomic bomb.

Without the PS3 I honestly believe HD-DVD would have won, Warner would have switched to HD-DVD exclusively.
Software winning the war? So how do you play a BD without a player?

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

So Paramount switching helped sell the PS3? If I recall correctly there was ample HD-DVD titles out and about. HDDVD had Paramount, Universal, Dreamworks etc etc.. Studio support had something to do with it but it wasnt the atomic bomb.

Without the PS3 I honestly believe HD-DVD would have won, Warner would have switched to HD-DVD exclusively.
Software winning the war? So how do you play a BD without a player?

No,no, no - Paramount switching helped HD-DVD. Heres something we used to hear in the war but we don't now....Many people who bought PS3's thought they were only for games. I knew people - I've met them in stores that where buying PS3's but didn't know they could play movies. I knew people who thought hd-dvd's were playable by regular dvd players (some - like "Fearless" were). Without the PS3 's gaming appeal I believe HD-DVD would have won also. It was the hard core moviephile that bought hundreds of BD's that really won this war - hats off to you for buying the software. But I also know many un or misinformed people who only bought it as a gaming machine. Good gracious many people were put off by the 100.00 HDMI cables that BB, BELKIN, Monster and others were pushing. Thank you Amazon and Monoprice
The factors for the results of the war are huge but as for me I will always say it was the Studios first and the PS3 second. But don't get me wrong it played a major part in this "war", but if WB went exclusive HD-DVD...ohh and let me add this Disney played its part in this also...during the height of the war when WB was on the fence Paramount made its decision, Disney rolls out animated title after animated title. I mean Ratatoullie, Cars, ect. the list goes on - this generated sales also. I think I bought more blu's at that time than any other(2 at a time multiple times )! It was just delicious!!!! The factors to what won the "war" are many, but to get back to "OP"'S issue is buy the BD player that's best for you. We owe no loyalties to any player or company. Thats like saying since Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves - African Americans are obliged to vote Republican or on the flipside Just because Democrats in the 60's signed the civil rights bill, African Americans are obliged to vote Democratic - I vote for whoever I want - and we will all buy whatever bd player we want.

[Entertainment72]

My personal experience was that I purchased my day and date PS3 stricly for movies only.. Then COD4 came along and .. ruined my life. So I knew many at the release of the PS3 who knew it would play BD movies.

Sorry about the thread jack.

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

So Paramount switching helped sell the PS3? If I recall correctly there was ample HD-DVD titles out and about. HDDVD had Paramount, Universal, Dreamworks etc etc.. Studio support had something to do with it but it wasnt the atomic bomb.

Without the PS3 I honestly believe HD-DVD would have won, Warner would have switched to HD-DVD exclusively.
Software winning the war? So how do you play a BD without a player?

Altough there were ample Paramount titles out - all the family stuff (the good stuff) was on Blu. I don't consider Shreik III a family movie neither is the Transformers (that wasn't even a movie ). Studios made a difference with me

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by prerich

neither is the Transformers (that wasn't even a movie ).

Those are fight'n words there..

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

My personal experience was that I purchased my day and date PS3 stricly for movies only.. Then COD4 came along and .. ruined my life. So I knew many at the release of the PS3 who knew it would play BD movies.

And I picture you to be a very educated person, up on technology - one that keeps abreast of things. That's why you made your decision. I've got to say it...Southern Florida mentality is different from that say of P'cola. That's why the good high end audio stores are all in Southern Florida or on the Eastern coast, very little up my way one place that sells B&W, Paradigm, Klipsch, Bag End, and Kef I think. Everthinig else is CC or BB - I 've gotta travel to audio shop

[mfanelli81]

Originally Posted by stogster

I'm looking at buying a new home theater system soon. I'll be buying a Sony LCD Bravia HDTV and either the Blu-ray Disc™ Matching Component Home Theater System (HT-SS2000) or Blu-ray Disc™ Matching Component Home Theater (HT-SF2000). My biggest question is over which BD player to buy. Should I go with the PS3, s350, or s550? I'm looking to have as nice of a "clean" setup as possible. I've read the PS3 is the best BD player currently available but Sony finally has 2 standalone 2.0 players coming out. (One note: I'm not really a gamer, and I am liking the possible Bravia Theater Sync option.) Thanks for any help/suggestions!

OK....there is a lot of debate going on 'who or what player won the war' unfortunately this is not a thread for that discussion......OP is looking for help on which player to choose. The main purpose here is provide knowledge base info, so a appropriate decision can be made.

stogster, With the 2 systems that you have listed the HT-SS2000 and HT-SF2000, you will want to have a BD that can decode the HD audio codecs (ps3 would probably be the best choice for you....cheapest and it can decode HD audio) You will want to try and stay away from a BD player that bitsteams as the surround systems you have chosen will not decode them.

Im not sure what your budget is, but it may be beneficial (future proof) to purchase a receiver that can handle the HD audio decoding and all the new HD formats. The Onkyo 605 is always being throw around....its a very good receiver that can do all of above listed and it wont cost you a fortune.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...6107691&sr=1-1

[caliminius]

Originally Posted by mr.hidef

I agree. Way to many gamers on this site, throwing the PS-3 down peoples throats.Come on?...............Do you really think women want to stare at a video game console in their living rooms? What about people in their 30's and 40's? Go to the PS-3 forums then. This is BLU-RAY.COM, we talk about blu-ra y

To your gross over-generalizations, all I can say is "Bite me."

As others have said, I purchased my PS3 mainly for Blu-Ray because it was the only one that had the ability to be upgraded to Profile 2.0 at the time. Even now, it remains one of the few 2.0 players available or even announced with most being stuck at 1.1 AND being more expensive.

Less than 5% of its time is spent playing games (and I may well be overestimating that percentage). Of the remaining 95%, about 80% goes to playing Blu-Rays and the remaining 15% to listening to music. It's great having all the multimedia features of the PS3. Now that I'm more aware of them (and how cool they are), I would never consider buying a stand-alone unless it could come close to matching those features (I can live without the web, games and photos but if it can't stream A/V content it's not coming home with me).

As for the comment about staring at a video game console, all I can say is what? As opposed to staring at the large black rectangle that most other A/V components are? I think the PS3 has a very attractive appearance and blends in quite nicely with my TV, receiver and CD changer which are all mostly black with silver accents. Heck, the curvy PS3 is sexy in comparison to the giant, fat black brick that is my receiver.

As for people in their 30's and 40's...well at 31, I'm one of those people, not the 10-20 something you seem intent on insulting.

Maybe you should take your comments to ps3 forums as you sound like one of the hit-and-run posters who only shows up to start a flame war.

[Entertainment72]

Originally Posted by mfanelli81

Im not sure what your budget is, but it may be beneficial (future proof) to purchase a receiver that can handle the HD audio decoding and all the new HD formats. The Onkyo 605 is always being throw around....its a very good receiver that can do all of above listed and it wont cost you a fortune.

Onkyo 605

259.99

[un4gvn94538]

Originally Posted by JadedRaverLA

True, but the S350 and S550 will load the vast majority of discs in under 10 seconds, and have very fast response times when navigating BD-J titles, so that's a moot point for the OP.

didnt realize i was making a point for the op. i was correcting some information and stating what I was looking for. and i havent seen anything on load times for the new models

[prerich]

Originally Posted by Entertainment72

Sorry about the thread jack.

Ditto