Scream Factory Blu-ray Discussion Thread

[kevinrnash89]

Originally Posted by kevinrnash89

I just received an order I placed directly with Scream Factory for The Fog, and was unpleasantly surprised when I opened it and found a chunk of the slip cover torn off. Has anyone had luck contacting Scream for a replacement? Have they done this kind of thing in the past?

To follow up on this, Shout's awesome customer service responded to me immediately and is sending me a replacement slip. Cool!

[zbinks]

Originally Posted by dsman71

Nice feedback zbinks by the way

Thanks.

RE: Sony

I didn't omit all the Sony titles, but it's probably not a bad idea.

We have to keep in mind that Sony has a massive 665 film, 52 TV series deal with Mill Creek in place on top of their pre-existing deal. We don't yet have a full list of titles included in that deal, but I Know What You Did Last Summer and Flatliners were both announced as part of that deal and I suspect those aren't the only two horror films that will be going over to Mill Creek.

[bBop87]

Has there been any word on who got the rights to the Halloween movies yet? I'd love if Scream put out these especially 6!

I'd also love Candyman 2, what's the chances of getting this from MGM?

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by demonknight

Dracula 2000 CE

Does Dracula 2000, of all films, really warrant a collector's edition?

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by zbinks

The Relic (1997) - Paramount

This is on BD, as well (from LG).

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by Seymour

Does Dracula 2000, of all films, really warrant a collector's edition?

HELL YES! I love Dracula 2000, and I feel if Ginger Snaps, Lake Placid, and Dog Soldiers deserve it, so does this.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by demonknight

I can see October's line-up already:
Halloween 6 Producer's Cut CE
Lord of Illusions Director's Cut CE
Nightbreed Director's Cut CE
Vincent Price Collection Volume 2

They'd better get cracking on Nightbreed, then. They haven't even started work on that one. Who knows what they're waiting for.

[Beachguy]

Originally Posted by ryanmj1993

This would be way too good. Really hoping they get H6:PCut one day. After all a print does exist after all these years

+1

Halloween 6: Producer's Cut is the main title I want now.

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by dissention

They'd better get cracking on Nightbreed, then. They haven't even started work on that one. Who knows what they're waiting for.

Hmm. Waiting for a satisfactory transfer?

[HorrorBlu]

Originally Posted by Seymour

Does Dracula 2000, of all films, really warrant a collector's edition?

No kidding. That seems like a low priority.

If they did snatch up the Miramax titles, I'd want to see special editions of The Faculty and Phantoms.

[jrsl76]

Originally Posted by Seymour

Does Dracula 2000, of all films, really warrant a collector's edition?

Hell no, that film is abysmal.

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by HorrorBlu

No kidding. That seems like a low priority.

If they did snatch up the Miramax titles, I'd want to see special editions of The Faculty and Phantoms.

I much prefer Dracula 2k to The Faculty, and I saw them in the same week. In fact, my feelings are encapsulated in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oukYwNsnKqQ

[dissention]

Originally Posted by demonknight

Hmm. Waiting for a satisfactory transfer?

They have to piece it all together themselves, there is no transfer to get. There aren't even any actual film elements, they only have VHS tapes of the deleted footage to work with.

From last month:

"...there are still murmurs that [the Cabal Cut] is overly long, there's some repetitive footage, it still needs a proper sound mix, there are a lot of flaws with it, you know, I mean it's essentially a fan-made workprint. We did it in-house and it's by no means a professional thing. And so when Shout Factory start the restoration and give it a proper mix and digitize it and restore it and Clive goes in and watches it and gives his notes, you know, and suggests the trims and puts everything in order and we have the ultimate thing, that's going to be the Director's Cut because Clive's had his hands in it, you know, it's an official, professional release and we want people to know that it is something different and it is something that's just going to be Clive's ultimate vision... We haven't given up the search [for more footage] - we're still looking! So stay tuned... anything is possible!"

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by dissention

They have to piece it all together themselves, there is no transfer to get. There aren't even any actual film elements, they only have VHS tapes of the deleted footage to work with.

Exactly. They are making the transfer, and as such, they have to make it BD acceptable. I mean, just look at the trashing they get when they are given a transfer from Universal. They have to make it good.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by demonknight

Exactly. They are making the transfer, and as such, they have to make it BD acceptable. I mean, just look at the trashing they get when they are given a transfer from Universal. They have to make it good.

They acquired this flick last August and haven't begun any restoration on it. Considering the amount of work that needs to go into it, what are they waiting for? Those missing film elements are not going to magically appear from the Morgan Creek vaults after a decade of searching.

And with the current elements, it won't ever look BD quality. It'll look like the Halloween 6 spliced bootleg.

[demonknight]

Originally Posted by dissention

They acquired this flick last August and haven't begun any restoration on it. Considering the amount of work that needs to go into it, what are they waiting for? Those missing film elements are not going to magically appear from the Morgan Creek vaults after a decade of searching.

And with the current elements, it won't ever look BD quality. It'll look like the Halloween 6 spliced bootleg.

You're absolutely right. You should go do this. Manufacture this disc. Why leave it to the professionals?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by demonknight

You're absolutely right. You should go do this. Why leave it to the professionals?

My thoughts exactly.

[Kap6289]

Originally Posted by Camp_Crystal_Lake

Motel Hell has yet to go up for pre-order.

I thought it was under the codename "frames"? Lol.

[Wolfking]

Wow Gone for one afternoon and I miss everything, Ok time to go though all these.

Originally Posted by dsman71

I bolded some more this morning

Thank You

Originally Posted by spawningblue

I disagree with a lot of the ones you bolded. I wouldn't delete Universal titles from the list, or even Sony for that matter. Just because they don't have any releases planned for this year, doesn't mean another deal won't be made next year. I would say it's very likely as MGM only owns so many worthwhile titles. Same with the Miramax library, until we know how got them, I wouldn't be so quick to delete them from the list. There's a good chance Scream picked these up.

Bubba Ho Te, Child's Play sequels, Village of the Damned, Creature, etc. are all titles I could see Scream one day releasing. I definitely wouldn't say there's no chance Scream won't release them. I can actually almost guarantee that we will see some of these next year. Don't know why you bolded Troll either as that's MGM. Dr. Giggles on the other hand is definitely a title that can go, as it's owned by Warner.

Yea, I haven't remove them all yet, since I just got back and am now seeing this, but for his first wave I did remove them.

Originally Posted by dsman71

Im just bolded as it stands and how I feel right now. I doubt anything will change with Sony in the next year..and just because they make another deal with Universal does not mean those titles will get releases. Scream has already stated that they do not have Creature aka Titan Find and Bubba Ho Tep. Anything from Warner, Lionsgate , Sony, at this point are no goes and while they can make a deal with Universal it wouldn't be for all the titles on the list. That doesn't mean I personally wouldn't want them though. I did not bold the Halloween Miramax Halloween movies because I think Scream could get those...
Others I cant see them going after ..

The list is over years, (possibly 5+ years), I know Warner, Lionsgate, and Paramount are a Big fat NO, but some of the others still could be released

Originally Posted by spawningblue

But I think the whole point of the list poll is to gauge what films people are interested in and hope Scream will release, not what they have now. That would kind of defeat the purpose. If they see Bubba Ho Tep has a large audience you can bet they will release it. Scream has been all over the place with their releases so I wouldn't say Troll, Bubba Ho Tep, Creature, etc. are beneath them. MGM has a lot to offer but they can't survive releasing low tier titles, scraping the bottom of MGMs barrel. As for Sony, I'm willing to bet they will have made a deal next year. Again, to survive they are going to expand their options, as they need bigger titles to survive. And we still don't know who got the Miramax catalog.

In my opinion (And it's just my opinion, it's really up to Wolfking), I would just delete the titles that they have no chance of getting, ie. Warner titles, Dark Sky, Scorpion, Blue Underground, Synapse, etc. and go from there. Maybe this will show Scream that Howling 2, or Troll has a huge audience.

Unless the poll is just to hope/ guess what remaining titles will be released this year, which in that case is probably only a handful plus the Price collection, and doesn't really need a poll for as they probably already have them.

Exactly spawningblue, That is the main purpose of the poll, that and to see what is truly the most requested. and this is for the whole of Scream's life, and not for this year, I won't make a list for this year, that's too short and pointless.

Originally Posted by dsman71

I never said that they are beneath certain titles. Only that they have shot down titles such as Creature and Bubba Ho Top and the Howling II .. There are titles that Scream has said that they are not pursuing and then there are titles that they tried to get but couldn't -
I don't see anything with Sony yet. They cant even get the MST3K movies that Sony owns the rights to from them (that's for the Shout DVD sets) Until I see a title from Sony's library I will just call it unlikely. They are dealing with Twilight Time
The poll only makes sense if its titles that have a real chance of getting acquired.. Any fan can hope for a movie from Scream Factory, but if it's a movie like the Keep or Creepshow they will be hoping forever because they cant get them from the studios that own them. I hoped that they would get Without Warning since its with MGM and they got it. They have a deal with Fox and Im hoping for the Fly II. Im sure Scream will continue to seek all avenues that they can get. They could even get more Code Red titles if they wanted to under the assumption Evilspeak and Final Exam do well.
And I have a feeling SF did get some of the Miramax titles..

Very true, Only titles Scream has a real chance of getting is what this list will compose of, and just because they got shot down, doesn't mean still can't get, unless they shot it down, because they can't get it, otherwise it's fair game.

Originally Posted by zbinks

[Rec] 2 (2009) - Magnolia
At Midnight I'll Take Your Soul (1964) - I believe Synapse has the rights to the Coffin Joe films
Big Trouble in Little China (1986) - Fox already released a Blu-Ray for this film
Clownhouse (1989) - If you know the background for this film, you'd realize this is never, ever going to happen. Even if MGM made it available, I don't think Shout! Factory would risk the PR-nightmare and potential fallout with some of it's existing licensors in other areas of their home video division.
Damien: Omen II (1978) - Fox already released this film on Blu-Ray
Dawn of the Dead (2004) - Universal already released this film on Blu-Ray.
Death Bed: The Bed That Eats (1977) - Cult Epics/Olive will be releasing this film.
Deep Rising (1998) - Mill Creek already released this film on Blu-Ray.
Dr. Giggles (1992) - Warner Brothers already released this film on Blu-Ray
Ernest Scared Stupid (1991) - Mill Creek already released this film on Blu-Ray.
Flatliners (1990) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray
Frankenstein Unbound (1990) - Fox licensed this film to Anchor Bay for a DVD release. I don't think they'll license the Blu-Ray to a separate company.
Ghosts of Mars (2001) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray
Graveyard Shift (1990) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Happy Birthday to Me (1981) - Mill Creek already released this film on Blu-Ray.
Horror of Dracula (1958) - Warner Brothers
House on Haunted Hill (1959) - The film might be public domain, but the best elements are probably in the Warner Brothers film vaults.
House on Haunted Hill (1999) - Warner Brothers
I Know What You Did Last Summer (1997) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray
I Still Know What You Did Last Summer (1998) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray
I Walked with a Zombie (1943) - Warner brothers
I Was a Teenage Werewolf (1957) - Susan Hart
Innocent Blood (1992) - Warner Brothers
It Lives Again (1978) - Warner Brothers
It's Alive III: Island of the Alive (1987) - Warner Brothers
Ju-on: The Grudge (2002) - Lionsgate
Lemora: A Child's Tale of the Supernatural (1973) - Synapse
Leprechaun 2 (1994) - Lionsgate
Man's Best Friend (1993) - Warner Brothers
Mark of the Devil (1970) - Blue Underground
Mindwarp (1992) - Twilight Time has the rights until late 2016. 3,000 copies may be more than enough to satisfy demand.
Night of the Lepus (1972) - Warner Brothers
Nightmare (1981) - Code Red DVD will be releasing a Blu-Ray
Omen III: The Final Conflict (1981) - Fox already released this film on Blu-Ray
Paperhouse (1988) - Lionsgate
Parents (1989) - Lionsgate
Possession (1981) - Mondo-Vision will be releasing this in a lavish Blu-Ray set
Return of the Evil Dead (1973) - Blue Underground
Return of the Living Dead: Necropolis (2005) - Lionsgate
Return of the Living Dead: Rave to the Grave (2005) - Lionsgate
Ring (1998) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Ring 0: Birthday (2000) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Ring 2 (1999) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Rumpelstiltskin (1995) - Paramount / Olive (Republic Pictures title)
Sisters (1973) - Criterion
Spider Baby or, The Maddest Story Ever Told (1968) - Dark Sky Films / MPI
Spontaneous Combustion (1990) - Code Red DVD
Strangeland (1998) - Lionsgate
Subspecies (1991) - Full Moon
Sundown: The Vampire in Retreat (1989) - Lionsgate
Targets (1968) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Taste the Blood of Dracula (1970) - Warner Brothers
Terror Firmer (1999) - Troma
Terror in the Aisles (1984 Documentary) - Already on Blu-Ray
The Curse of Frankenstein (1957) - Warner Brothers
The Deadly Spawn (1983) - Elite Entertainment
The Dentist (1996) - Lionsgate
The Driller Killer (1979) - Cult Epics/Olive
The Fearless Vampire Killers (1967) - Warner Brothers
The Frighteners (1996) - Universal already released this film on Blu-Ray
The Fury (1978) - Twilight Time has the rights until mid 2016.
The Hand (1981) - Warner Brothers
The Last Shark (1981) - Prohibited in the US
The Mangler (1995) - Warner Brothers
The Mummy (1959) - Warner Brothers
The Penalty (1920) - Kino already released this on Blu-Ray
The Relic (1997) - Paramount
The Shining (1997 Mini-Series) - Warner Brothers
The Stand (1994 Mini-Series) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
The Tommyknockers (1993 Mini-Series) - Paramount / Warner Brothers
Tombs of the Blind Dead (1972) - Blue Underground
Troll 2 (1990) - MGM already released this film on Blu-Ray
Urban Legend (1998) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray
Vamp (1986) - Image already released this film on Blu-Ray
When a Stranger Calls (1979) - Mill Creek already released this film on Blu-Ray.
Wolf (1994) - Sony already released this film on Blu-Ray

Films like Carrie, The Thing or Escape from New York might warrant double dips even though they already have Blu-Rays. A lot of these other titles probably have marginal double dip potential for any number of reasons.

Thank you very much, this helps very much, thank you again.

Originally Posted by zbinks

Thanks.

RE: Sony

I didn't omit all the Sony titles, but it's probably not a bad idea.

We have to keep in mind that Sony has a massive 665 film, 52 TV series deal with Mill Creek in place on top of their pre-existing deal. We don't yet have a full list of titles included in that deal, but I Know What You Did Last Summer and Flatliners were both announced as part of that deal and I suspect those aren't the only two horror films that will be going over to Mill Creek.

So keep or get rid of, I'm confused.


Thanks you all for this, and I'm truly grateful, I'm still wondering if you want me to delete Sony or not? and as for Universal, Scream has gotten films from them so, I'm keeping them, unless they have license them out to other companies with no chance of Scream getting them. Also for Extras, I have notice a lot blu-rays that have been released have no extras, and I can understand if there were none, but then you can make new ones, as long as their still alive it's all good, I doubt we can do anything more with The Jazz Singer (1927), I think everyone is dead, but with others they're still alive, or the DVD has more extras than the blu-ray which still need those transferred. But, Since this list is more serious oriented I will remove the ones Zbinks has listed, thanks again Zbinks.

Thank you all, and I will keep working on it, but it will be slow, I have friend visiting me, and school work. but expect the new poll and list to be up and live by at least mid to late April. Thanks again, every one of you, Thank You

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Seymour

Does Dracula 2000, of all films, really warrant a collector's edition?

OMG talk about a steaming pile. I'm pretty sure most, if not all, the notable cast members would love to have it stricken from their resume.