4K Movies Releases

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New Sony 4K player FMP-X10

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1284...-coming-summer

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[singhcr]

Originally Posted by saprano

Keira Knightley about vinyl records - YouTube

Indeed.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

...I don't know what people would prefer though I personally am more interested in better color. Dolby is heavily promoting HDR so more people know about it and more news articles have been released about it.

We should get a first glimpse of what the masses think when Dolby Vision content is delivered through those qualified Vizio (4K only?) and Sharp displays vis-à-vis the Dolby partnerships with Netflix, Amazon, and Vudu OTT (internet provided content)…like I previously noted by the end of this year/early next year.

Until then, I’ll relate to you what the colorists who’ve played with the plug-in think…as well as a couple color scientists in Hollywood

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

In short, a color scientist (in a broad role at a Hollywood studio or even a cutting edge post production house) manages the color pipeline of major motion pictures.

To elaborate…he/she helps the D.P. (during camera testing) choose the camera to be used by determining the attributes and limitations of each particular camera… develops LUTS for look creation and helps design a consistent color pipeline so that what the Director and D.P. see on-set looks like the dailies…looks like editorial…looks like the D.I….looks like what’s shown in the theater.

who’ve seen demos (in L.A., at HPA, etc.) think…they think that Dolby Vision HDR mastering in P3 has the potential for superior picture quality than simply widening the color gamut of traditional dynamic range captured imagery to B.T. 2020 colorimetry. Of course, Dolby Vision (or a comparably efficient and effective HDR solution) with even wider color gamut than P3 (B.T. 2020) would be PQ nirvana.

The Dolby Vision color grading plug-in is rather nifty . It does about 90% of the HDR grade automatically and the colorist then manually tweaks from there to produce the final grade.
For home deliverables, one just does a trim pass as you would for DCI P3 -> Rec. 709 home deliverables…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...p3#post8524797

As an update, the ITU is not only considering Dolby Vision as an HDR solution; but also, proposals from Technicolor, Philips and the BBC.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Richard Paul

I think the major studios dislike the Rec. 2020 color space simply because it will lead to the awkward position that TV shows might have better color than movies or that movies shown at home might have better color than movies shown in movie theaters...

Originally Posted by saprano

Heh.

A noble endeavor but there is a cost ($) involved -

On the studio side -

It will require changing the entire content preparation workflow. It must be supported from image acquisition…then through editing and color grading post houses including support in other brand monitors (not just the prototype 30” Sony OLED announcement that Richard previously linked but, other brands as well).

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On the consumer display manufacturer side –

The display device must support BT.2020 coloritmetry, and those cases in which it does not, gamut mapping must be considered. Given the limited processing power at the reception side, it is unclear how this can be optimally solved (e.g. perceptual gamut mapping vs. clipping to Rec. 709 range vs. leaving interpretation of color data to the legacy televisions themselves).

[Penton-Man]

I brought attention to the 75 film print thing in the P.S. on the last page because this may be one of theater-going cinephiles’ last opportunities to see a feature motion picture produced and exhibited thee old fashioned way.

Meaning Transcendence was shot on film, finished photochemically (it did not go through a digital intermediate color grading pipeline, although a 4K digital master was ultimately produced) and a handful of release prints are being made available.

So, this provides road trip bait for celluloid junkies and those interested in evaluating for themselves (without Director or D.P. hype) some recent evidence (or, lack thereof) of the purported superiority of end-to-end celluloid vs. digital.

[tob]

What did you think of Arsenal last night penton.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

celluloid vs. digital.

^
Which reminds me, as a F/U to this past post…. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ri#post9023437 since I doubt any roving reporter-types covering NAB gained access to such inside information, the Arri camera is not a rumor…it does exist as a working device. At the current time; however, ARRI won’t sell the 65mm 6k camera…note emphasis on “sell”.

Red fanboys can now breathe a sigh of relief.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

What did you think of Arsenal last night penton.

I just got around to watching Liverpool vs. Man City last night. The Arsenal match is scheduled for my viewing pleasure (or lack thereof) tonight or possibly Thursday night. I’ll have to get back to you on that.

I’ll tell you one thing though, we shouldn’t have even placed ourselves in this position with the lead we had at the beginning of the season. The only redeeming grace I see at this point is that we have an easier schedule left compared to that of Everton.

As an aside, last night NBC Nightly News did a brief segment on the Hillsborough anniversary (http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/1...lsborough.html

[tob]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I just got around to watching Liverpool vs. Man City last night. The Arsenal match is scheduled for my viewing pleasure (or lack thereof) tonight or possibly Thursday night. I’ll have to get back to you on that.

I’ll tell you one thing though, we shouldn’t have even placed ourselves in this position with the lead we had at the beginning of the year. The only redeeming grace I see at this point is that we have an easier schedule left compared to that of Everton.

As an aside, last night NBC Nightly News did a brief segment on the Hillsborough anniversary (http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/1...lsborough.html

I won't say anything about the match until you see it penton but I agree we have a better fixture run in compared to Everton.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I brought attention to the 75 film print thing in the P.S. on the last page because this may be one of theater-going cinephiles’ last opportunities to see a feature motion picture produced and exhibited thee old fashioned way.

Meaning Transcendence was shot on film, finished photochemically (it did not go through a digital intermediate color grading pipeline, although a 4K digital master was ultimately produced) and a handful of release prints are being made available.

So, this provides road trip bait for celluloid junkies and those interested in evaluating for themselves (without Director or D.P. hype) some recent evidence (or, lack thereof) of the purported superiority of end-to-end celluloid vs. digital.

I would love to see this in 35mm. Is there any way to find out where they are being screened? My Google searches are so far unsuccessful.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I just got around to watching Liverpool vs. Man City last night. The Arsenal match is scheduled for my viewing pleasure (or lack thereof) tonight or possibly Thursday night. I’ll have to get back to you on that.

I’ll tell you one thing though, we shouldn’t have even placed ourselves in this position with the lead we had at the beginning of the season. The only redeeming grace I see at this point is that we have an easier schedule left compared to that of Everton.

As an aside, last night NBC Nightly News did a brief segment on the Hillsborough anniversary (http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/04/1...lsborough.html

Penton, if your mob do make it into 4th place this season, be sure to raise a glass to Palace after what they did last night...

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Penton, if your mob do make it into 4th place this season, be sure to raise a glass to Palace after what they did last night...

Well done Geoff. It was the usual heartbreak for my guys last night.

[Geoff D]

They did bloody well though mate, the Mackems truly are City's bogey team. I just hope they're there next season to do it all over again.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

They did bloody well though mate, the Mackems truly are City's bogey team. I just hope they're there next season to do it all over again.

We won't mate. We are gone. Thanks for your encouragement though!

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Penton, if your mob do make it into 4th place this season, be sure to raise a glass to Palace after what they did last night...

Wow Geoff. You guys beat Everton? Not bad…not bad at all.
Merci beaucoup.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Well done Geoff. It was the usual heartbreak for my guys last night.

Sorry to hear that Steed. But not unexpected, no?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

I would love to see this in 35mm. Is there any way to find out where they are being screened? My Google searches are so far unsuccessful.

To find a film projection capable theater that can get release prints of first run motion pictures is a rare bird indeed. I’d recruit ZoetMB for the detective work, maybe he could help.
You might try to call or email one the publicity people over at WB and you may get lucky…Jan Craft (818) 954-2279 jan.craft@warnerbros.com

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by tob

I won't say anything about the match until you see it penton but I agree we have a better fixture run in compared to Everton.

Thanks, as I rarely get to watch any matches live or even on the same day since I’m so busy, but I’m not complaining because I don’t have the World’s Toughest Job, which is revealed to all at the end of the clip…

World's Toughest Job - #worldstoughestjob - YouTube

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Sorry to hear that Steed. But not unexpected, no?

Draw was unexpected but I was referring to the keeper error late in the match that robbed us of the win. Story of our sorry season Penton man.

[Rick Grimes]

I'm a long way off purchasing a 4K TV, as long as my Sony FHD TV keeps going (knock wood).

I have a 32" Sony, thinking about going up to 42" max. At that 32" size, the difference between FHD and 4K is negligible. Very happy with the 1080p picture that I get with my PS3, PS4 or U.S. BD Sony BR player running. My Sony is a 710 model, and although 3-4 years old, it looks as good as the new 800 series.

In short, 1080p & Blu-Ray will do me.