Why aren't all movies authored on 50 gig Blu-ray

[Canada]

Why arn't all movies authored on 50 gig Blu Ray disks? Are the 50 gig disks more expensive to produce or something? I know 50 gigs is a lot of space.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Apparently some releases don't require the full 50GB.

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Apparently some releases don't require the full 50GB.

I can't think of ANY release that uses 50GB of space (most dual-layered discs are 30-40GB). Anyway, if you have a short title and limited special features, the production house likely couldn't get the disc over 25GB in size even if they maxed out the video bitrate throughout the movie.

Also, there is a (not insignificant) cost-differential between producing single layer and dual layer discs. In addition, many of the Blu-ray disc production lines installed currently are only capable of producing single layer discs, though that will be changing as time goes on.

[Anthony P]

I can't think of ANY release that uses 50GB of space (most dual-layered discs are 30-40GB).

that is not true

[cajmoyper]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

that is not true

Proof? Reasoning?

[BStecke]

I'm pretty sure the Pirates movies are pretty damn close, hence the use of the second BD25. I wouldn't know where to find that kind of info to be sure though. I know there are computer programs that can do it, but I don't have any of them. lgans usually has that type of info.

[Blu-Raider]

Originally Posted by Canada

Why arn't all movies authored on 50 gig Blu Ray disks? Are the 50 gig disks more expensive to produce or something? I know 50 gigs is a lot of space.

1. Availability of media
2. Manufacturing cost

[blu2]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Proof? Reasoning?

There is a wealth of statistics on disc content size here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...highlight=size

Here's a large one for example:


Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (seamless) AVC 2:14:41 36,620,150,784# 49,688,551,851

[owa]

Here's the same list in alphabetical order:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=3338

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by cajmoyper

Proof? Reasoning?

The lists

Lots of them bumping up on 50GB.

Gary

[JadedRaverLA]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

that is not true

I said MOST were between 30-40GB, which was true. And I said, none were 50GB... which was also true. You sited ONE example that was LESS than 50 GB as proof that some part of that was wrong. Then many posted links which show a minority of 50GB discs had over 40GB... also doesn't change the facts of what I presented.

People here are touchy. What I said was right... and the fact that more discs are (finally) coming out that use closer to 50GB doesn't change that.

Anyway, if you're all so worried about 50GB discs actually using closer to that amount of space, then yell at Warner... not me.

[Anthony P]

I said MOST were between 30-40GB, which was true.

no it is noty, do the math.

And I said, none were 50GB... which was also true

none will be exactly 50GB but there are a few that are over 49GB

CE3K, Crank, Damages: The Complete First Season Disc 3,Dirty Dancing, Ghost Rider, Hellboy....

but yeah why let facts stand in the way of your BS

[w_tanoto]

also an ugly format called HD DVD had caused Warner to get lazy and just ported it to BD. Obviously HD DVD does not have 50GB

[stockstar1138]

one of the biggest reasons not all BDs are BD50s is due to avalibility of BD50s. Currently all BD50s that will able to be produced with the current production lines have been purchased through 2008. In fact they've been sold out for a while (before 1/4) so don't expect those universal titles to be on BD50s. We simply can't make enough of them to fill demand, until companies invest in more lines that make BD50s. Remember BD25 is by far the most popular lines to make as they are cheape and BD25s are what PS3 games are on (MGS IV will be the first BD 50 game). BD games outsell BD movies 7:1 I believe.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

one of the biggest reasons not all BDs are BD50s is due to avalibility of BD50s. Currently all BD50s that will able to be produced with the current production lines have been purchased through 2008. In fact they've been sold out for a while (before 1/4) so don't expect those universal titles to be on BD50s. We simply can't make enough of them to fill demand, until companies invest in more lines that make BD50s. Remember BD25 is by far the most popular lines to make as they are cheape and BD25s are what PS3 games are on (MGS IV will be the first BD 50 game). BD games outsell BD movies 7:1 I believe.

I can see this as a moajor issue until more BD50 plants are established. I expect if there is a return, people will invest in this.

[CassilineKnight]

The 50G should be standard in my opinion. I thought the whole point of Bluray was to fit everything onto 1 disc?

Yet some movies are still released with 2 discs? Kinda ridiculous...

[Anthony P]

but most of the ones on two disks have one that is a BD50

[Woody]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

one of the biggest reasons not all BDs are BD50s is due to avalibility of BD50s. Currently all BD50s that will able to be produced with the current production lines have been purchased through 2008. In fact they've been sold out for a while (before 1/4) so don't expect those universal titles to be on BD50s. We simply can't make enough of them to fill demand, until companies invest in more lines that make BD50s. Remember BD25 is by far the most popular lines to make as they are cheape and BD25s are what PS3 games are on (MGS IV will be the first BD 50 game). BD games outsell BD movies 7:1 I believe.

I am not calling you a liar, but do you have any proof of that?

And if they were all purchased before 1/4/08, how did the Mummy and The Mummy Returns get BD50s?

And you don't think TDK and Iron Man won't be on BD50s?

[WickyWoo]

ne of the biggest reasons not all BDs are BD50s is due to avalibility of BD50s. Currently all BD50s that will able to be produced with the current production lines have been purchased through 2008. In fact they've been sold out for a while (before 1/4) so don't expect those universal titles to be on BD50s. We simply can't make enough of them to fill demand, until companies invest in more lines that make BD50s. Remember BD25 is by far the most popular lines to make as they are cheape and BD25s are what PS3 games are on (MGS IV will be the first BD 50 game). BD games outsell BD movies 7:1 I believe.

It's grade A red ant FUD.

This is all they have left to hang on to because every other piece of crap Amir and company have served them has turne out to be exactly that, and they're hoping and praying this very last piece might turn into a flower because most of that information is considered confidential, and therefore not available to the public to discredit them

[Canada]

One movie that should have been authoured on a 50 gig disk and wasn't was The Assasination of Jesse James.