nyphomaninc uncut ? or cut ?

[felixthecat]

God I hate the UK censors

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by felixthecat

God I hate the UK censors

It wasn't cut by the BBFC, the producers re-editted the 5 hour directors cut to 2x2 hour films. Malcy's point was that just because the shorter theatrical versions passed at 18 it doesn't mean the longer cut will. And if it passes at an R18, it would almost certainly be cut.

Without having seen the film I couldn't comment, but presumably it will be argued that the work involves real sex, but is not a "sex work" (as it's primary function is not to arouse), so it should be fine at 18, but that doesn't mean it will be...

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by MichaelB

Also, you can't blame the BBFC for the ludicrous situation whereby an R18 classification effectively kills off your entire market unless you also happen to own a chain of sex shops.

Michael I feel the British mail order companies could easily get around this by just shipping titles from Switzerland or Scandinavia, and there is nothing the BBFC could do about it. Mail order is illegal on R18 titles only in the UK.
I guess they don't because of a reputational risk as R18 is seen as porn as its only a rating for sex works.

Arrow, Eureka or the BFI could set up a subsidiary elsewhere in Europe and sell the unrated or R18 rated titles back to their UK customer base selling direct via their website. These are not "HMV" or supermarket titles and the customer base are likely to buy uncut from elsewhere in the world.

In Germany you have the unrated issue with titles considered unacceptable at 18 which means Amazon.de etc can't sell these titles but because its a sex or violence issue there not just sex, you see marketplace sellers listing the titles or various mail order companies in Austria and Switzerland listing these uncut as there they can be legally sold via mail order to over 18s.

[Zot!]

There is currently no alternate edit outside of a 5 hour extended version that has only played at one film festival, with no home video release announce anywhere. Every territory got the 4 hour edit, including Germany outside of that singlular showing at a special event. The AE release is uncut. Buy with confidence.

[Todd Tomorrow]

Originally Posted by Zot!

There is currently no alternate edit outside of a 5 hour extended version that has only played at one film festival, with no home video release announce anywhere. Every territory got the 4 hour edit, including Germany outside of that singlular showing at a special event. The AE release is uncut. Buy with confidence.

^ This

Could people please just stop whining about the BBFC or a cut version and get their facts right.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by malcy30

Michael I feel the British mail order companies could easily get around this by just shipping titles from Switzerland or Scandinavia, and there is nothing the BBFC could do about it. Mail order is illegal on R18 titles only in the UK.
I guess they don't because of a reputational risk as R18 is seen as porn as its only a rating for sex works.

Arrow, Eureka or the BFI could set up a subsidiary elsewhere in Europe and sell the unrated or R18 rated titles back to their UK customer base selling direct via their website. These are not "HMV" or supermarket titles and the customer base are likely to buy uncut from elsewhere in the world.

In Germany you have the unrated issue with titles considered unacceptable at 18 which means Amazon.de etc can't sell these titles but because its a sex or violence issue there not just sex, you see marketplace sellers listing the titles or various mail order companies in Austria and Switzerland listing these uncut as there they can be legally sold via mail order to over 18s.

Except for this to work, they'd have to set up a subsidiary elsewhere to exploit the rights, and presumably they only have UK & Ireland rights, so legally wouldn't be able to do so.

Also, I'll leave you to work out why the British Film Institute won't set up a subsidiary...

[malcy30]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

Except for this to work, they'd have to set up a subsidiary elsewhere to exploit the rights, and presumably they only have UK & Ireland rights, so legally wouldn't be able to do so.

Also, I'll leave you to work out why the British Film Institute won't set up a subsidiary...

You could set up the company in the Channel Islands if basing in Switzerland say caused problems with the local rights holder. I remember back when CD-Wow had a UK base their adult titles came via the Channel Islands. Would be similar to German companies doing mail order out of Austria to get around German censorship. They both share German though so I guess most rights would cover both countries.

If you set up a separate company overseas that gets round the issue. As said a UK company would get into trouble just shipping R18 titles from overseas.

[Markgway]

They should change the law so that R18 discs can be sold at any dedicated video retailer (i.e. HMV or Cex) -- but not at supermarkets (where families are likely to be). To prevent children from buying them customers should be asked to provide ID. To avoid offence R18 titles should be sold in a separate, curtained-off area (which is what they do in the US, I believe). Aren't those fair compromises?

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by felixthecat

God I hate the UK censors

There's no such thing as UK censors.