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[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by skdenfeld

I've registered strictly to bring attention to a rather distressing occurance with regards to your website. I have come to appreciate the quality reviews of various blu-ray movies provided by your reviewers. As a result, I have found myself watching more than a few movies I would have otherwise skipped on the shelf, all based on your reviews. Saawariya, specifically, comes to mind. I tend to check the site out on my PS3 and 50" plasma, and, generally, various members of my family are in the living room with me. While checking out the recent review of the movie "Rambo", I was seriously alarmed when I realized the screenshot I was looking at was showing a guy's head being exploded by Rambo, who was standing next to a decapitated body! My kids were in the room with me, as well as my wife. I had to scramble to get the image off the screen before they realized what it was.

I really enjoy the quality of the reviews as well as the great screenshots, but I ask, in the interests of the varied users of your site, that you please be mindful of any graphic or explicit content without any kind of warning. This particular instance is just as serious as showing an explicit sex scene or something. Again, please be considerate of who might have access to your website.

Please, keep up the fine work!

OK so I also have young kids (two sons). I just simply don't watch, view websites, or review forums about hard R movies or anything not appropriate in front of them. My question to you is why complain to a website who is just doing what they do when it was your mistake to begin with? Man up and take the blame for your own mistakes and don't go around trying to be the internet police. This is a parental issue and not a Blu-ray.com issue in my opinion. FREE SPEECH TO THE REVIEWERS!

-Thanks
Dave

P.S. I also recommend not viewing your porn with the family in the room.

[Original-6ix]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

OK so I also have young kids (two sons). I just simply don't watch, view websites, or review forums about hard R movies or anything not appropriate in front of them. My question to you is why complain to a website who is just doing what they do when it was your mistake to begin with? Man up and take the blame for your own mistakes and don't go around trying to be the internet police. This is a parental issue and not a Blu-ray.com issue in my opinion. FREE SPEECH TO THE REVIEWERS!

-Thanks
Dave

P.S. I also recommend not viewing your porn with the family in the room.

Flux thats what i wanted to say i mean the guy joins on saturday and is already trying to change what goes on on this incredible website, its the one website i visit daily and this guy cant read.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

OK so I also have young kids (two sons). I just simply don't watch, view websites, or review forums about hard R movies or anything not appropriate in front of them. My question to you is why complain to a website who is just doing what they do when it was your mistake to begin with? Man up and take the blame for your own mistakes and don't go around trying to be the internet police. This is a parental issue and not a Blu-ray.com issue in my opinion. FREE SPEECH TO THE REVIEWERS!

-Thanks
Dave

P.S. I also recommend not viewing your porn with the family in the room.

Seriously, you couldn't be more off base. This isn't a website that is exclusively dealing with adult or mature content. One should not have to worry by clicking on a review what they're going to see. There should either be a front page disclaimer (which is patently ridiculous) or there should be some judiciousness used when deciding what images to use.

"Free speech" has nothing to do with an image capture. Obviously the reviewers and the site agreed with the OP since they took it down so quickly.

This forum is so quick to jump on each other (and especially new people) like a pack of wolves that it's embarrasing. We're here to talk about movies and blu-ray technology, not gore.

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by aramis109

Seriously, you couldn't be more off base. This isn't a website that is exclusively dealing with adult or mature content. One should not have to worry by clicking on a review what they're going to see. There should either be a front page disclaimer (which is patently ridiculous) or there should be some judiciousness used when deciding what images to use.

"Free speech" has nothing to do with an image capture. Obviously the reviewers and the site agreed with the OP since they took it down so quickly.

This forum is so quick to jump on each other (and especially new people) like a pack of wolves that it's embarrasing. We're here to talk about movies and blu-ray technology, not gore.

Me off base!?

You joined in March and you are finger pointing new members?!? I think you also should read up on civil liberties, free speech, & freedom of expression because this is completely relevant to the topic at hand.

How can you get upset over an image of the movie being posted that you making the choice to read about? If the movie’s subject matter offends you then don’t view the review or ruin the review for people who are interested in the subject matter and handle their entertainment responsibly.

Would you take your family to an R rated movie and then complain to the theater management that they were playing something that offended your family?

Would you view an R rated movie on HBO that offended your family and then call the cable company and tell them to change their channel line up?

I sure hope not.

So my question is why throw your common sense out the window when on the internet and request that a movie review site censor their reviews and images from movies that are obviously clearly rated and for adults 18+? Use better judgement plain and simple. You were given the right to make choices for yourself. If you don't like something then don't involve yourself in it, but don't ruin it for those who do.

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Me off base!?

You joined in March and you are finger pointing new members?!? I think you also should read up on civil liberties, free speech, & freedom of expression because this is completely relevant to the topic at hand.

How can you get upset over an image of the movie being posted that you making the choice to read about? If the movie’s subject matter offends you then don’t view the review or ruin the review for people who are interested in the subject matter and handle their entertainment responsibly.

Would you take your family to an R rated movie and then complain to the theater management that they were playing something that offended your family?

Would you view an R rated movie on HBO that offended your family and then call the cable company and tell them to change their channel line up?

I sure hope not.

So my question is why throw your common sense out the window when on the internet and request that a movie review site censor their reviews and images from movies that are obviously clearly rated and for adults 18+? Use better judgement plain and simple. You were given the right to make choices for yourself. If you don't like something then don't involve yourself in it, but don't ruin it for those who do.

My join date has nothing to do with my opinions or with my ability to call someone to the carpet that I feel is out of line. Sorry, I don't agree with you and your argument about my date of joining the forum adds nothing to your argument.

Feel free to read my posts about the subject- I never found the subject matter offensive, I found it unexpected and inappropriate based upon the other content on the site. I never got upset about the subject either- I posted my opinions on it. I got upset about the fact that people were attacking the OP on putting out his opinion- way to drive off new people from the site.

Your arguments about it being an R rated movie are independent of the review- of course I wouldn't let my family watch an R rated movie and then complain about it. But if I saw a review on basic cable that included explicit shots without a warning first, I might consider it.

Seriously, I'm done because you're completely missing the point, but I thought I'd give another shot at it.

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by aramis109

My join date has nothing to do with my opinions or with my ability to call someone to the carpet that I feel is out of line. Sorry, I don't agree with you and your argument about my date of joining the forum adds nothing to your argument.

Feel free to read my posts about the subject- I never found the subject matter offensive, I found it unexpected and inappropriate based upon the other content on the site. I never got upset about the subject either- I posted my opinions on it. I got upset about the fact that people were attacking the OP on putting out his opinion- way to drive off new people from the site.

Your arguments about it being an R rated movie are independent of the review- of course I wouldn't let my family watch an R rated movie and then complain about it. But if I saw a review on basic cable that included explicit shots without a warning first, I might consider it.

Seriously, I'm done because you're completely missing the point, but I thought I'd give another shot at it.

I am not missing the point at all and fully respect your opinion. I also couldn’t care less when you joined as that means nothing to me (members are members). I was however stating the irony that you said: “new people were quick to jump on each other” while in fact you are a new member yourself.

Fact: This site reviews and provides image quality info on movies released to Blu-ray.

I totally can meet in the middle on there being a “caution” or “flag” labeling that an image link will be showing violence, gore, or other material that is not appropriate for all viewers, but removing it totally from the site is a huge mistake and will also drive members from the site.

There are many R rated movies out there being released on Blu now and in the future. I want to be able to see the picture quality references on these reviews as they are prudent to the consumer that wants to know the level of PQ the release has before they make the purchase. What better place to provide this than the authority on Blu-ray itself.

I vote to keep the screenshots alive and for disclaimers on images with questionable content. This would be the best compromise and a win/win/win for all.

-Dave

[aramis109]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

I am not missing the point at all and fully respect your opinion. I also couldn’t care less when you joined as that means nothing to me (members are members). I was however stating the irony that you said: “new people were quick to jump on each other” while in fact you are a new member yourself.

Fact: This site reviews and provides image quality info on movies released to Blu-ray.

I totally can meet in the middle on there being a “caution” or “flag” labeling that an image link will be showing violence, gore, or other material that is not appropriate for all viewers, but removing it totally from the site is a huge mistake and will also drive members from the site.

There are many R rated movies out there being released on Blu now and in the future. I want to be able to see the picture quality references on these reviews as they are perdnet to the consumer that wants to know the level of PQ the release has before they make the purchase. What better place to provide this than the authority on Blu-ray itself.

I vote for disclaimers and I vote to keep the screenshots alive. This would be the best compromise and a win/win/win for all.

-Dave

Actually, my post about new members was meant to be read that folks jump on new members' cases way too much. Kind of the opposite of how you interpreted it. Chalk it up to my writing error on that one.

We can agree to disagree on this one- I think you can (mostly) judge PQ from "safe" screenshots. A disclaimer would be fine however. I mostly read the reviews to see if it's worth owning. My concern was reading them at work, not in front of the kids. However, if you have kids I'm sure you know how they can sneak up on you when you're not looking.

Anyway, no harm no foul. Just misunderstandings.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

Me off base!?

You joined in March and you are finger pointing new members?!? I think you also should read up on civil liberties, free speech, & freedom of expression because this is completely relevant to the topic at hand.

How can you get upset over an image of the movie being posted that you making the choice to read about? If the movie’s subject matter offends you then don’t view the review or ruin the review for people who are interested in the subject matter and handle their entertainment responsibly.

Would you take your family to an R rated movie and then complain to the theater management that they were playing something that offended your family?

Would you view an R rated movie on HBO that offended your family and then call the cable company and tell them to change their channel line up?

I sure hope not.

So my question is why throw your common sense out the window when on the internet and request that a movie review site censor their reviews and images from movies that are obviously clearly rated and for adults 18+? Use better judgement plain and simple. You were given the right to make choices for yourself. If you don't like something then don't involve yourself in it, but don't ruin it for those who do.

Actually there is no 'free speech' on this website, so you might want to step down off the soap box. Trying to make this a civil liberties issue just makes you sound a little silly.

Also, you seem to think that reading a movie review and watching a movie are the same thing. You discuss using common sense, but I am having a hard time finding any in your post. Reading a review and watching the full movie are two different things, that should have different expectations.

When a preview or advertisement for a R movie shows on TV, aren't they normally 'approved for all audiences'? Why do you think that is? Is it because they want to trample on your civil liberties?

[JJ]

(c) Aaron's joke idea first, but applicable here

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by JJxiv1215

(c) Aaron's joke idea first, but applicable here

Even funnier coming from a self described post *****.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by cpgator

Even funnier coming from a self described post *****.

Ironically, I think I can lose that moniker now, I've been looking at my post history lately and it pales in comparison to everyone! But if you MUST know, I don't argue here. I instigate.

[Flux88MPH]

Originally Posted by cpgator

Actually there is no 'free speech' on this website, so you might want to step down off the soap box. Trying to make this a civil liberties issue just makes you sound a little silly.

Also, you seem to think that reading a movie review and watching a movie are the same thing. You discuss using common sense, but I am having a hard time finding any in your post. Reading a review and watching the full movie are two different things, that should have different expectations.

When a preview or advertisement for a R movie shows on TV, aren't they normally 'approved for all audiences'? Why do you think that is? Is it because they want to trample on your civil liberties?

If you had read in detail the posts that preceded you would have discovered a greater context in my comment to allow the Blu-ray.com Reviewers to maintain the free speech of their reviews without censorship. It was a point made to show the policing that was being attempted and in no way a “soap box”.

There are many movie review sites I read that have photos, clips, and language that is not appropriate for my kids to read or see. This is why I read them without the kids present like watching R movies when they are not present.

Watching an R movie or viewing a public review about an R movie in many ways is the same when you include family members that the said movie is not appropriate for. He should have used better judgment and waited until his kids were not around before viewing the content. It is not the job of the website to control, it’s the parents job to use their discretion. This is where all the common sense comes in that must have taken the high road past you.

I have already suggested and supported a disclaimer or flag system be used on reviews that contain content that is questionable but I strongly urge the moderators of this site to maintain an environment of free speech to the page reviewers to remain authentic, credible and true to the writer.

I love this site and don’t want to see it become a lesser version of itself through the ignorance and errors of readers that can’t take responsibility for their own actions.

[cpgator]

Originally Posted by Flux88MPH

If you had read in detail the posts that preceded you would have discovered a greater context in my comment to allow the Blu-ray.com Reviewers to maintain the free speech of their reviews without censorship. It was a point made to show the policing that was being attempted and in no way a “soap box”.

The reviewer do not have the right to free speech here. They already know that, and since they continue to post their reviews, it doesn't appear they mind the rules. Again, there is no free speech on this forum.

Watching an R movie or viewing a public review about an R movie in many ways is the same when you include family members that the said movie is not appropriate for. He should have used better judgment and waited until his kids were not around before viewing the content. It is not the job of the website to control, it’s the parents job to use their discretion. This is where all the common sense comes in that must have taken the high road past you.

I have already suggested and supported a disclaimer or flag system be used on reviews that contain content that is questionable but I strongly urge the moderators of this site to maintain an environment of free speech to the page reviewers to remain authentic, credible and true to the writer.

I love this site and don’t want to see it become a lesser version of itself through the ignorance and errors of readers that can’t take responsibility for their own actions.

I think most people here would prefer to read reviews of all movies, and not have to worry about those around us. With your logic, most movie reviews could not be read around kids, at work, or around anyone else really for fear of a sex scene, violence, etc. I don't want to have to always look over my shoulder before checking to see if a movie has good AQ or PQ.