Interesting feature on kids collecting today

[Musicguy]

http://www.cbsnews.com/videos/vinyls...a-record-high/

wait till the end, you may be surprised what they say about downloading and physical discs - good news for blu-ray

[jscoggins]

A lot of audiophiles use the "sound quality" argument with regards to collecting vinyl albums, but how many people buying vinyl are actually using equipment that can take advantage of whatever improvements there may be?

[RudyC]

says at the end vinyl is only 2% of music sales...although the number is probably bit higher...

thats still too low to be a full comeback.

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

A lot of audiophiles use the "sound quality" argument with regards to collecting vinyl albums, but how many people buying vinyl are actually using equipment that can take advantage of whatever improvements there may be?

Those that are buying albums to actually listen to them?

I'd say most. It doesn't really take much to do it.

[GenPion]

Wrong section... should be moved. Thanks for sharing this though. It was an interesting piece. I wonder what sales are for 24 bit digital? I think Blu-ray should be utilized more, personally, and provide high-res audio downloads alongside.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by RudyC

says at the end vinyl is only 2% of music sales...although the number is probably bit higher...

thats still too low to be a full comeback.

It was reported recently in a survey commissioned for Record Store Day that 10% of 18-24 year olds in the UK brought a cassette last year...

When do we start claiming cassettes be making a comeback?

[reason108]

Originally Posted by jscoggins

A lot of audiophiles use the "sound quality" argument with regards to collecting vinyl albums, but how many people buying vinyl are actually using equipment that can take advantage of whatever improvements there may be?

You can hear the difference on a cheap system too.

[Member-222782]

I still think it's a nostalgia thing. Buying vinyl seems to be the cool thing to do and whatever's cool at the moment is what people embrace. I have close to 1,000 records but sound quality or nostalgia had nothing to do with my decision to buy them - the stuff I listen to didn't make it to CD for the most part.

Not sure what this has to do with Blu-rays, though

[Hatter]

Originally Posted by reason108

You can hear the difference on a cheap system too.

True, but Vinyl also have that steelbook/slipcover collectability to them as well. Epic 12" X 12" artwork and gatefold sleeves vs tiny little artwork inserts for cd's or digital artwork.

[Musicguy]

Wasn't sure where to put this.

Whole point is young kids are buying physical media - we figured they young kids today would only download - but it seems they are the ones buying the discs.

Don't know if this means they are turning away from downloads - but if the younger kids trend to buying physical media then Blu-ray may have a longer life than the Studios thought.

Maybe they realize it may be better to own physical media?

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Musicguy

Wasn't sure where to put this.

Whole point is young kids are buying physical media - we figured they young kids today would only download - but it seems they are the ones buying the discs.

Don't know if this means they are turning away from downloads - but if the younger kids trend to buying physical media then Blu-ray may have a longer life than the Studios thought.

Maybe they realize it may be better to own physical media?

I think it's more of a fad than that. For outright convenience, nothing beats a digital file. Young people tend to live in their parents' homes, dorms, or apartments, and they're not likely to have good enough sound systems to qualify as audiophiles. Therefore, I seriously doubt that they know "good" sounding audio from "bad" sounding audio. (And no, young people blasting music at ear shattering volumes during house parties doesn't make music sound better.)

[Thomas Guycott]

Originally Posted by Musicguy

Wasn't sure where to put this.

Whole point is young kids are buying physical media - we figured they young kids today would only download - but it seems they are the ones buying the discs.

Don't know if this means they are turning away from downloads - but if the younger kids trend to buying physical media then Blu-ray may have a longer life than the Studios thought.

Maybe they realize it may be better to own physical media?

There is definitely a vinyl revival going on in the audiophile scene, but if we're talking about young people exclusively, a lot are buying LPs as art pieces or curios that come with MP3 download vouchers: virtually every new LP from the major labels these days include download codes.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

There is definitely a vinyl revival going on in the audiophile scene, but if we're talking about young people exclusively, a lot are buying LPs as art pieces or curios that come with MP3 download vouchers: virtually every new LP from the major labels these days include download codes.

Well, I didn't know that, but that makes sense. They still get a digital copy of the music. I was wondering if these vinyl buyers were also buying a CD to rip mp3s, lol.

[CHEЯNOБLY!]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

There is definitely a vinyl revival going on in the audiophile scene, but if we're talking about young people exclusively, a lot are buying LPs as art pieces or curios that come with MP3 download vouchers: virtually every new LP from the major labels these days include download codes.

That's not true. I started collecting vinyl a couple years ago, and I'd say way less than a quarter of my vinyl came with digital downloads. I mostly buy new vinyl too. Even of very old albums, because of the remastering, heavy weight pressings and better sound quality. I usually only buy vinyl of albums that I really love. The rest of my music is mostly lossless digital, and I still have some CDs left over. I never download lossy crap.

I do love the artwork and the look and feel of vinyl, but they're not just art pieces to me...I probably spent $2,500-3,000 on my set-up. I am not a young college kid, but vinyl was definitely way before my time.

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

IMHO Vinyl is a niche format these days. Yes, there are a group of people out there who are aficionados & prefer the format to CD's/I-pods/I-tunes, but IMHO those folks are the minority. As a kid in the '80's, I remember listening to some Vinyls (at that time, the format was not that old), but also remember preferring CD's due to the better sound quality; plus, CD's could definitely scratch, but not as much as Vinyl did....

[Kriztoffer Swank]

I don't know anybody over the age of 40 who listens to vinyl anymore. Seems those who grew up with it prefer the more convenient digital methods for their music.

[thegrunter]

Originally Posted by Thomas Guycott

There is definitely a vinyl revival going on in the audiophile scene . . .

No. No, there's not.
It's ENTIRELY media hype.
Go and look at the numbers. The highest selling vinyl releases number in the thousands. CDs are still selling in the millions. There might be a small handful of people in any given urban area that have an interest in vinyl, but it's no "trend."

It's all bullshit, and I get incredibly tired of hearing the same stupid story about vinyl being the "hot" new format among the kiddies.

Nope. Just not true.

[jscoggins]

Originally Posted by thegrunter

No. No, there's not.
It's ENTIRELY media hype.
Go and look at the numbers. The highest selling vinyl releases number in the thousands. CDs are still selling in the millions. There might be a small handful of people in any given urban area that have an interest in vinyl, but it's no "trend."

It's all bullshit, and I get incredibly tired of hearing the same stupid story about vinyl being the "hot" new format among the kiddies.

Nope. Just not true.

[MifuneFan]

Collecting kids ain't like it used to be

[The Great Owl]

I've been buying compact discs for 26 years, and, for my money, it's still the best format across the board. The random access to songs is great, the artwork presentation, while smaller and inferior to vinyl albums, is still stellar, and the CD cases are easy to store. I still prefer compact discs over any other format even now in 2014, and, just last week, I bought the new Echo and the Bunnymen album on CD instead of downloading it.

I think it was Pro-B who wrote in another thread, "If I don't own something on disc, then I don't own it at all." I feel the same way.

CDs made such a huge splash because of the convenience factor. The random access to songs was the main reason for the mass migration to the format, because people no longer had to fast-forward or rewind, and they no longer had to move a needle on a record player.

The convenience factor is probably the big reason why Blu-rays have not overtaken DVDs to the extent that insiders predicted years ago. Blu-rays look a lot better, and they have a capacity for more special features, but they do not offer any instant conveniences that DVDs do not already offer. Most movie fans are happy with the ability to jump back and forth to favorite scenes, and they can do that just fine with DVDs. The only difference is that DVDs generally start playing faster once you insert them in a player.

That said, what goes around always seem to come around as far as hipster purchasing habits go. VHS tapes are making a comeback in a hipster sense, for reasons that bewilder and astound me. Blu-rays may go out of style in years to come, and they may all but become extinct, but your discs will be worth something to some hipster collectors out there in decades to come. You can probably count on it.