Why are Star Trek fans so bitter about the reboot?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by blu-mike

I haven't met one Trek fan who loved Star Trek(2009) and Into Darkness. Honestly, if Star Wars was being rebooted I wouldn't mind if it was done right.


But why do the Trek fans hate the reboot and sequel so much that they voted Into Darkness as the "Worse Star Trek movie"

Woah woah woah. I love the first one, I mean L-O-V-E. There's more heart and soul and emotion in that first 10 minutes alone than in the entirety of your average big budget bullshit blockbuster, I think it's terrific. There are plot holes, there are cosmic coincidences, but I can let that stuff ride because it doesn't derail the film and nor does it assume that the viewer has a mental age of six-and-a-half. The holes are there partly because of the writer's strike, and partly for the sake of expediency, like cutting out Nero's imprisonment on Rura Penthe to speed up the story.

But STID, man oh man oh man. It takes all the goodwill that ST built up and flushes it completely down the toilet from the opening reel, showing a fundamental disregard for what the Prime Directive actually is (why is Pike pissed about the natives seeing the ship, when the point is that Kirk and co. were interfering with the planet's destiny to ****ing well begin with!) which then undermines the entire premise. Every single story point is hammered home with the subtlety of a brick through a window (did we really have to see Khan pumping his magic blood right at the beginning, basically telegraphing his entire reveal? Why not just show matey being given the vial?), the narrative itself makes a spectacularly small amount of sense and relies on coincidence after coincidence, and the nods to The Wrath of Khan have been shoehorned in with no attempt to grasp what made that movie so incredibly moving in the first place. Quinto's "KHAAAAAAAAAN!" is plain embarassing, and it wasn't even Khan who instigated the whole thing in the first place! But Spock yelling "ADMIRAL MARCUSSSSSSSSS!" wouldn't have worked for the TWOK reference...

Oh, and the first movie coming up with transwarp beaming to get the plot out of a hole I can tolerate (they even explain it away in STID when Scotty says that Starfleet confiscated his equation, one of the few sensible lines in the whole film), but the creation of magic blood that reanimates the dead is the stupidity motherlode, it's one of the most singularly lazy plot developments I think I've seen in any movie EVER. And for some reason the characters have a habit of saying that they can't do something, and then they do it about five minutes later, especially Bones. First he says that they can't thaw out any of Khan's people to get at their magic blood because he doesn't know how the cryotubes work - hence the footchase to catch Khan to save Kirk - but when they need to freeze Kirk, not only do they have a cryotube ready to go but it's also empty, despite having earlier established that each one is occupied. What did they do? Stick the poor occupant in a freezerbag? And if they did thaw someone out, why then carry on chasing after Khan?

And why....oh, forget it. STID is one of the worst movies I've seen in a long, long time. It's relentlessly, wilfully, aggressively stupid, maybe even more so than the previous king of crap, Transformers 2.

I'm still buying the IMAX version though. It's pretty.