The Criterion Collection

[TJS_Blu]

Well, jayembee, if you ever find treatment for your malady, let me know because I am occasionally surprised by some peoples opinions as well. Silly me.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Bad Sandwich

If you're under the impression I assume expression of disagreement constitutes"personal attack" or that I said anything close to that, you've misinterpreted everything I said. But yes, you've now confirmed you are talking about actual surprise and there's no semantic confusion here. Surprise at a total stranger whose taste you know nothing of not liking something you like. Good stuff. I shoudn't even have to delve into the myriad ways that's totally nonsensical, but you're entitled to that most interesting reaction. Run with it, I say!

Really. So when you said "To me it seems sort of nonsensical at best and arrogant at worst (You don't share MY taste? How dare you) to be 'surprised' at a stranger's lack of enthusiasm/disdain for a film you happen to dig." you're not suggesting that it might be looked at as a personal attack? Seriously? Then what is the point of the "How dare you" part?

Of course, another point is that we're talking about films that are highly regarded and/or popular. It's not like we're talking about whether one likes a given Béla Tarr film. If someone says that they're not interested, or dislike, films that are as well-regarded and/or popular as, say, Gone with the Wind, Star Wars, or E.T., I don't think it's unreasonable to be surprised. In fact, I happen to not like any of those three films, and it would not strike me as nonsensical or bizarre or whatever adjective you choose that someone should be surprised at my saying so, whether I know them or not.

Also, in the case that started this whole tangent, we have a group of five titles (one being a 6-film set) that are so diverse, one would think that Clare would be interested in at least one of them. That she's not interested in any of them is a surprise, and I find it nonsensical that you think it would be nonsensical.

[Bad Sandwich]

Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

Well, jayembee, if you ever find treatment for your malady, let me know because I am occasionally surprised by some peoples opinions as well. Silly me.

More specifics are needed here, I'd say. Like, is it your brother (familiarity/expectation) or a mysterious stranger in a trenchcoat (wildcard!)? Are you surprised by the mere fact they disagree with you on something, or by specific aspects of their viewpoint which you feel to be batshit crazy? Such details would help distinguish rational surprise from delusional nutcake surprise, methinks.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Bad Sandwich

More specifics are needed here, I'd say. Like, is it your brother (familiarity/expectation) or a mysterious stranger in a trenchcoat (wildcard!)? Are you surprised by the mere fact they disagree with you on something, or by specific aspects of their viewpoint which you feel to be batshit crazy? Such details would help distinguish rational surprise from delusional nutcake surprise, methinks.

How about...random example that just popped into my head for no particular reason...somebody who regularly posts to the same Criterion Collection Discussion thread he frequents?

Where would somebody like that fall on the familiarity/wildcard continuum?

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Donkey Skin Blu-ray REVIEW




Pro-B

Thanks, as always, Pro-B. Do you know when the Insomnia review will posted?

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Thanks, as always, Pro-B. Do you know when the Insomnia review will posted?

Hi blkhrt,

Yes, by Friday. I just need to push live two more titles (but there will be no delays).

Pro-B

[TJS_Blu]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Actually, there's two you need to scratch off the list. I'm guessing you haven't heard that Out of the Past is being released on Blu-ray by Warner Archive Collection.

Originally Posted by oildude

Since you are doing better with your wishlist than I am with mine, how about using some of these:

Gallipoli
The Grey Fox
The Day of the Jackal
Tender Mercies
The Year of Living Dangerously
Mountains of the Moon

Of course, I can think of over a dozen Criterion upgrades also.

And I agree completely with your choice of Lone Star. Need that one on blu now.

I am aware of the OotP archive release, no release date yet, so I'll probably wait to edit until the date is established. But, yeah, thanks for mentioning.

Oildude, I think I'm going to wish for a Bette Davis title or Court Jester or maybe For Whom the Bell Tolls this time but I'll definitely keep your recs in mind the next time I exert my influence .

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Hi blkhrt,

Yes, by Friday. I just need to push live two more titles (but there will be no delays).

Pro-B

Thanks! I am looking forward to it!

[TJS_Blu]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

COMPLETE VENICE CLASSICS LINE-UP

Outstanding line-up this year. Bellocchio, Kieslowski, Petri, Ferreri... Fantastic

Many of these, if not all, should come out on Blu-ray. A few are already in the pipeline

Pro-B

Very much agree.

I'm particularly interested in

Ya Shagayu po Moskve (Walking the Streets of Moscow)
by Georgiy Daneljia (USSR, 1963, 78’, B&W)
restored by: Gosfilmofond

Though that seems like it might be a better fit for BFI.

Also thanks for the Demy reviews, incredibly excited about this release!

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Thanks! I am looking forward to it!

You are welcome, blkhrt. It is a fantastic release, quite possibly the best looking from Criterion this year.

Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

Very much agree.

I'm particularly interested in

Ya Shagayu po Moskve (Walking the Streets of Moscow)
by Georgiy Daneljia (USSR, 1963, 78’, B&W)
restored by: Gosfilmofond

Though that seems like it might be a better fit for BFI.

Also thanks for the Demy reviews, incredibly excited about this release!

You are welcome, TJS

I am really hoping that Artificial Eye can renegotiate No End and we see a Blu-ray release. Additionally, Todo modo has never had a good release in North America, so let's hope that Criterion would consider it.

You probably know that I am a big fan of Alberto Lattuada as well -- I have all but two of his films on DVD -- so hopefully another candidate for Criterion, possibly with Mafioso:



Lastly, I am hoping that the MOC guys will pick up Marco Ferreri's film. It is out in Italy, but there are no English-friendly releases of (any of) Ferreri's films anywhere yet. Criterion should also see if they can acquire La Grande bouffe, as I am fairly certain it is no longer with Lorber.



This is the Ferreri set, by the way, a beauty. I am fairly certain some of these films will never make it to Blu-ray, so if interested in Ferreri's work, it is probably a good idea to pick one up now.

Edit:





The Harem was also available before, but I believe it is now OOP. Excellent film with Carroll Baker. In Italy, there is also an English-friendly version of La Cagna/The B i t c h. Also, Tales of Ordinary Madness is available in a lot of different regions.





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Pro-B

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Also, in the case that started this whole tangent, we have a group of five titles (one being a 6-film set) that are so diverse, one would think that Clare would be interested in at least one of them. That she's not interested in any of them is a surprise, and I find it nonsensical that you think it would be nonsensical.

May I quickly point something out here? "Not interested" or "nothing for me this month" means, in terms of Criterion and whenever I mention a particular film here, I will not be buying. At $23 a pop for me in Canada is too expensive to buy unless I am very keen.

My Darling Clementine & La Dolce Vita are 2 films I have heard of and may watch one day, just that I will not be buying the Criterion version. My thoughts on Tati still stand though, wouldn't take that box set if it was free with $50 stuck to the side.

Sorry for any confusion

[RojD]

Hmmm....did I hit a setting someplace? I've lost the "thanks" button.

[Clare2904]

I have noticed that it is hit and miss regarding the Thanks button. One day it is there, after a refresh, gone.

EDIT - I can now no longer see the button

[CobraVerde]

Originally Posted by bstv69

First: I got the Complete Jean Vigo, what are everyones thoughts on the set. It is a blind buy for me but I saw that L'Atalante is considered one of the greatest love stories and films.
This leads me to my next questions, is the blu-ray a significant upgrade to hulu plus for this set. And are there any other films that are included in Hulu plus that the blu-ray does not make a significant upgrade in PQ?
Thank you again as always

It's a great set, but I personally don't feel like L'Atalante is anywhere near one of the greatest films (as I continually see on lists) or even one of the best silent films. It's a nice little movie, and for its time it was pretty groundbreaking, but I'd take Sunrise, City Girl, even People On Sunday over it, as well as Passion of Joan of Arc.

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by RojD

Hmmm....did I hit a setting someplace? I've lost the "thanks" button.

You're only allowed a certain number of posts per day.

[Clare2904]

Originally Posted by iScottie

You're only allowed a certain number of posts per day.

You mean a limit on the number you can "thank" ? If so then mine is up the wall too as I only ever like 3-4 max a day

[Edward J Grug III]

Originally Posted by iScottie

You're only allowed a certain number of posts per day.

That is a very weird thing to limit.

[monorail91]

Watched Pickpocket today, liked it but didn't love it. Thought it had some interesting ideas but didn't really go anywhere for me. Here is my review.

[RBBrittain]

Originally Posted by Clare2904

I have noticed that it is hit and miss regarding the Thanks button. One day it is there, after a refresh, gone.

EDIT - I can now no longer see the button

I see a "thumbs up" button with the float-over caption "Thanks", which IIRC is different from the old "thanks" button. Perhaps you missed it? (Edit: You may also be looking at your own post; obviously they won't let you thank yourself. )

Back on topic: I recall reading elsewhere of a graphic in the Criterion newsletter which was interpreted as meaning It Happened One Night is coming to Criterion, but it's not in the latest announcement. (That just happened to coincide with AMPAS announcing the LA premiere of a new 4K restoration, presumably made for a BD release.) Any idea if & when that might happen?

[Bad Sandwich]

Originally Posted by jayembee

Really. So when you said "To me it seems sort of nonsensical at best and arrogant at worst (You don't share MY taste? How dare you) to be 'surprised' at a stranger's lack of enthusiasm/disdain for a film you happen to dig." you're not suggesting that it might be looked at as a personal attack? Seriously? Then what is the point of the "How dare you" part?

Of course, another point is that we're talking about films that are highly regarded and/or popular. It's not like we're talking about whether one likes a given Béla Tarr film. If someone says that they're not interested, or dislike, films that are as well-regarded and/or popular as, say, Gone with the Wind, Star Wars, or E.T., I don't think it's unreasonable to be surprised. In fact, I happen to not like any of those three films, and it would not strike me as nonsensical or bizarre or whatever adjective you choose that someone should be surprised at my saying so, whether I know them or not.

Also, in the case that started this whole tangent, we have a group of five titles (one being a 6-film set) that are so diverse, one would think that Clare would be interested in at least one of them. That she's not interested in any of them is a surprise, and I find it nonsensical that you think it would be nonsensical.

There's (obviously) nothing inherently personal about expressing an opposing view, but interpretation is another matter. Yes I do feel in a worst case scenario an opposing view *could* be irrationally interpreted as a personal affront, though I'm not accusing you of that and it's not what I meant with "...How dare you". That was actually just to illustrate the delusional presumption behind the (potential) arrogance component I mentioned - that one's own view is the norm/sensible and a divergent one is a flawed anomaly warranting "surprise". But my fault on poorly chosen phrasing there.

Anyway I otherwise maintain what Ive said, that I find surprise irrational outside of knowledge/familiarity fueling expectation. And personally, awareness of mass popularity/high regard wouldn't have any bearing. I don't operate under the default presumption the random guy next to me on the bus digs The Exorcist just because it's highly regarded in some circles. Surprise would only enter the equation if he went on and on about his affinity for the demonic possession subgenre only to drop the bombshell he can't stand the granddaddy of demonic possession flicks. But perhaps I'm just an odd duck.

Re: all this about dearest Clare not caring about any of 10 upcoming films, seems a little scant and vague to warrant surprise, unless Clare has droned incessently about loving one or more of the directors/writers/actors represented, but that's me. Anyhow this is the last I'll say on it since this is clearly way off course of thread intent (thank god! Right?)