Nightbreed: The Director's Cut (1990) (Limited Edition - SOLD OUT)

[exolstice]

Originally Posted by sandman slim

This being the USA, I'm just waiting for someone to file suit against SF, claiming false advertising or whatever. This, after all, is a country where people sue McDonalds because their coffee was hot. Some idjit will sue, the release will get put "on hold", and it'll be years before anything gets settled. I will actually be amazed if this gets released...

In the specific case you mention, the woman who sued McDonald's suffered third degree burns from the coffee and required reconstructive surgery. She didn't even sue them at first, she just wanted them to cover her medical expenses. You can read the full story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants

[wzollinger1]

I generally don't disdain to comment in threads like this, but I felt compelled to offer my perspective. I can understand the misgivings that people have regarding having paid a premium for this release based upon its (alleged) limited availability. Paying $80 for a blu-ray, no matter how rare, would likely make even the most prodigal of consumers balk, especially when considering that niche labels like Criterion put out releases with just as much care, an equal or greater number of extras, along with booklets containing informative essays, premium packaging, and rarely does the MSRP of their blu-rays exceed $40 (and I, as well as many others, have never once paid MSRP for a Criterion release). Moreover, Criterion isn't plaqued with some of the quality control/compression issues that Shout Factory is frequently vilified for. All that aside, the positive aspect of the demonstrable demand for a fairly obscure catalogue title (one that was a box office failure, no less) is that it sends a clear message to the studios and rights holders of these films that there is in fact a demand for physical media. Whether collectors like those who frequent these forums want to face it or not, the widespread availability and capability to stream media on demand has fundamentally changed the business model for making media available to consumers. Compounding this the economy has encouraged studios to be much more skeptical regarding releasing deep back catalogue titles, even those with a seemingly certain demographic. Gone are the halcyon days when bands were given enormous signing advances prior to releasing (or even recording) an album; now one need only release a handful of YouTube videos covering someone else's songs, or be a runner-up thrice removed on American Idol, and provided you have some modicum of talent and/or somehow capture the attention of the listening public, you get to bypass the years of playing in clubs, etc, slowly gaining a following (which is why an artist like Morrissey [criminally] didn't have a major label distribution deal from something like 1997-2004). So, for all of the varied reasons people collect these releases, whether it be the rarity, the packaging, the fact it has a slipcover, or whatever, I'm just glad they're buying. And just to clarify, I too find it odd that people collect steelbooks or special/limited editions independently of enjoying the film itself, in much the same way that I'm incredulous when grown men collect toys, or spend hours playing videogames, or indulge in any number of hobbies or interests I don't personally share. And I'm confident many people would find my interests equally tedious or peculiar. At the end of the day, who cares. The interest from consumers benefits all of us in the long run. I, for one, don't want to be confined to purchasing sure-thing blockbusters like Transformers and The Fast and the Furious because the studios are too squeamish to take a chance on a more esoteric or less known film. Finally, apropos of the high price of this release, while I feel it's a little too high for what we're getting, I certainly don't think these labels are going to release films solely out of magnanimity. The bottom line is, if they don't turn a profit, they won't release the films (don't get me wrong; I'd love to see Shout lower the price on my pre-order, though I'm not holding my breath).

[Jaymole]

I hardly ever pre-order a Blu-ray as I like to see reviews first before I buy, but I did in this case as I knew that it would sell out before it's release date.

I will still keep my pre-order, but may end up canceling down the road if it looks like it will be readily available after 10/28.

[Professeur Shadoko]

I pre-ordered the Limited Edition at DVDpacific.com (it was after it sold out on Amazon.com and before Shout Factory announced they would made 10,000 copies avalaible). Do you think I should cancell my pre-order at Pacific and pre-order it at Shout Factory to be sure to get a copy? DVDpacific wrote me they were unable to guarantee I could get a copy.
I'd be sure to get a copy if I order on Shout Factory website, but it's more expensive and I don't know if they take international orders (I live in France).
What do you think I should do?

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Professeur Shadoko

I pre-ordered the Limited Edition at DVDpacific.com (it was after it sold out on Amazon.com and before Shout Factory announced they would made 10,000 copies avalaible). Do you think I should cancell my pre-order at Pacific and pre-order it at Shout Factory to be sure to get a copy? DVDpacific wrote me they were unable to guarantee I could get a copy.
I'd be sure to get a copy if I order on Shout Factory website, but it's more expensive and I don't know if they take international orders (I live in France).
What do you think I should do?

Just cancel and reorder when it comes back up at Amazon.

[redrunner97]

I have a feeling I'm gonna miss out on this one either way. Laptop crapped out and I have to buy another for school next month there goes my bluray budget for the next couple months. #HorrorFanProblems

Sucks especially because that crappy feeling we as collectors tend to get when we read an announcement that something we missed out on is Sold Out, yep. Gonna feel that twice. I just hope I can get my hands on it before its completely gone. This might be THE must-have of the year!

[redrunner97]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Just cancel and reorder when it comes back up at Amazon.

I think this would be the best option as well.

Or have a friend ship it to you from the USA, and you'll get the poster too.

[canneryrowdoc]

Originally Posted by exolstice

In the specific case you mention, the woman who sued McDonald's suffered third degree burns from the coffee and required reconstructive surgery. She didn't even sue them at first, she just wanted them to cover her medical expenses. You can read the full story here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants

Everybody always throws out that McDonalds case, if you saw the woman's pics of how bad she was scarred you'd sue too.

Now what I really want is for Shout to up the amount of signed Werner Herzog collections from 100 to 200. C'mon shout, fair is fair. Or is that one OK to allow scalpers to go hog wild on?

[SadistikSlayer]

If it hasn't been mentioned in the past few pages, Nightbreed LE is priced at $69.99 on Amazon, only at 12% off, and the price tracking for it gives no indication it used to be 30% off. Strange.

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by SadistikSlayer

If it hasn't been mentioned in the past few pages, Nightbreed LE is priced at $69.99 on Amazon, only at 12% off, and the price tracking for it gives no indication it used to be 30% off. Strange.

Yeah price tracker is more than likely off because it is a whole new listing.

[SadistikSlayer]

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Yeah price tracker is more than likely off because it is a whole new listing.

I figured that was probably why. I wonder if they'll end up dropping the price back to the original discount.

[Banned User]

Personally I don't care if its limited or not I just wanted the theatrical version as well at the DC.

I'm a collector of movies I want to own and enjoy. Not so I can admire my purchase as being rare and worth a lot until the next release comes out and it becomes worthless. Again just cancel your preorder and move on if you feel its not worth $80.00 for a 10,000 copy run. Funny thing is that if they originally said 10,000 limited no one would be complaining about this and would have still ordered it.

LOL @ this release not feeling 'special' anymore because they released 5000 more or feeling 'cheated' by ShoutFactory. This thread is hilarious.

[digihed]

Originally Posted by SadistikSlayer

If it hasn't been mentioned in the past few pages, Nightbreed LE is priced at $69.99 on Amazon, only at 12% off, and the price tracking for it gives no indication it used to be 30% off. Strange.

The price tracker price is the Best Buy price at $69.99. It says not available at Amazon still so it uses the Best Buy price.

[Metallix87]

Originally Posted by Banned User

Personally I don't care if its limited or not I just wanted the theatrical version as well at the DC.

I'm a collector of movies I want to own and enjoy. Not so I can admire my purchase as being rare and worth a lot until the next release comes out and it becomes worthless. Again just cancel your preorder and move on if you feel its not worth $80.00 for a 10,000 copy run. Funny thing is that if they originally said 10,000 limited no one would be complaining about this and would have still ordered it.

LOL @ this release not feeling 'special' anymore because they released 5000 more or feeling 'cheated' by ShoutFactory. This thread is hilarious.

I'm not sure why you feel the need to mock the people who feel cheated. They have legitimate reason to feel the way they do, even if you don't agree with that reason.

[The Peanut Monkey]

Originally Posted by dsman71

And you dont seem to care that fans who did not purchase it before can buy it now. I guess you missed out on all the fans complaints - those who were not able to buy it..for whatever the reasons are -who are you to say *they had plenty of time* do you personally know everyone who were not able to get it and why they couldnt ?
No, you dont
The whole thing is pointless. Its 10000 now end of story..

...Yeah, I agree with the other guy(s); you're dismissing the whole nature of something being truly "limited", or, at least, using the more general definition of the word (since, of course, practically everything, ever is limited to a degree, even if that limit is extremely high) as opposed to SF's (and many of our) definition of it being rare.

That's the thing with limited editions; people, even big fans, occasionally miss out. It sucks. But then it's the nature of the beast. Users should direct their ire at companies that do it if it sits uneasy with them, not other users. SF set this up; I think buyers are justified to feel aggrieved if they want after buying in to the initial set-up.

Once again, a small matter but SF should probably strip the numbering off of these. Who really cares if they have Nightbreed #9,232. I also agree that it's going to be harder to believe SF when it comes to other limited editions.

[SadistikSlayer]

In my opinion it's cool that more people can get it since the demand was probably way more than SF imagined...but I do think 5000 more was too much.

[Jaymole]

Originally Posted by SadistikSlayer

In my opinion it's cool that more people can get it since the demand was probably way more than SF imagined...but I do think 5000 more was too much.

I for one hope that the scalpers cancel all their orders and that this takes years to sell out.

[The Peanut Monkey]

Originally Posted by Jaymole

I for one hope that the scalpers cancel all their orders and that this takes years to sell out.

Now that it's happened, I agree re: both scalpers and the stock not shifting very fast (but probably for differing reasons on the latter).

[Sinep]

I also think its good for the fans of the film. Since there are 8 billion people on Earth changing the limited edition from 5000 to 10000 doesn't really seem so bad. Whatever ones take on this is, at the end of the day the result is it will be 10000 blu rays and there is a collectors edition for those who don't want the limited version.

[Russhole]

Originally Posted by Jaymole

I for one hope that the scalpers cancel all their orders and that this takes years to sell out.

Who cares if it takes years to sell out? Is it some kind of a race?