Yamaha 861 or 663? - Blu-ray Forum

kingofgrills · 06-11-2008, 04:21 PM

The 861 would probably be the better choice sonically, if you have external decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. The 861 has a bit of a better power supply and amp section to generate the extra 20 wpc. However, it does give up a few things on the video side of things. The 861 only upscales to 1080i, as opposed to 1080p for the 663. It also has HDMI v1.2 versus 1.3 on the 661.

If it were me, I'd probably get the 861 for the added space on the amp side. I use my PS3 for Blu-ray, so it does all of the decoding. If I had a standalone player that could bitstream, I'd probably search for a deal on the the RX-V863, the 861's replacement, or I'd get the RX-V663

z24lucifer · 06-11-2008, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kingofgrills

However, it does give up a few things on the video side of things. The 861 only upscales to 1080i, as opposed to 1080p for the 663.

I'm pretty sure that the 663 doesn't do any upscale to 1080p. The 863 does though.

kingofgrills · 06-11-2008, 08:21 PM

It doesn't? I thought for sure it did. Maybe that's one of the reasons I've been focused on the 863.

hagar852 · 06-11-2008, 08:57 PM

v663 upconverts to 1080p.. So if you have a component source at 1080p it will upconvert to HDMI 1080p..

z24lucifer · 06-12-2008, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by hagar852

v663 upconverts to 1080p.. So if you have a component source at 1080p it will upconvert to HDMI 1080p..

Ok, I might have my terms confused. I don't *think* that the v663 has video upscaling. If you plug in a 480p source into the 861, it will come out as 1080i/720p.

hagar852 · 06-12-2008, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by z24lucifer

Ok, I might have my terms confused. I don't *think* that the v663 has video upscaling. If you plug in a 480p source into the 861, it will come out as 1080i/720p.

Right upscaling does what you just posted.. 480p to 720p or whatever.. and it is usually component sources that get upscaled in that way.

Underdog · 06-12-2008, 01:16 PM

After finding out of the "problematic" pass-through of 1080p/24 through the 861's 1.2 HDMI, i changed my order to the 663. The new codecs come as a bonus, and i guess i wont be missing the extra power too much.

06-11-2008, 04:21 PM	#1
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	The 861 would probably be the better choice sonically, if you have external decoding for Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA. The 861 has a bit of a better power supply and amp section to generate the extra 20 wpc. However, it does give up a few things on the video side of things. The 861 only upscales to 1080i, as opposed to 1080p for the 663. It also has HDMI v1.2 versus 1.3 on the 661. If it were me, I'd probably get the 861 for the added space on the amp side. I use my PS3 for Blu-ray, so it does all of the decoding. If I had a standalone player that could bitstream, I'd probably search for a deal on the the RX-V863, the 861's replacement, or I'd get the RX-V663 Last edited by kingofgrills; 06-11-2008 at 08:20 PM.

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06-11-2008, 08:21 PM	#3
kingofgrills Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Dec 2007 Location:PDX Home Theater Gallery:31 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:81 Trading Score:31	It doesn't? I thought for sure it did. Maybe that's one of the reasons I've been focused on the 863.

06-11-2008, 08:57 PM	#4
hagar852 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2007 Home Theater Gallery:5 Blu-ray collection:107	v663 upconverts to 1080p.. So if you have a component source at 1080p it will upconvert to HDMI 1080p..

06-12-2008, 01:16 PM	#7
Underdog Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:49	After finding out of the "problematic" pass-through of 1080p/24 through the 861's 1.2 HDMI, i changed my order to the 663. The new codecs come as a bonus, and i guess i wont be missing the extra power too much.

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