When do you suppose 8K will be available?

[Suntory_Times]

mjbethancourt nothing of worth in your posts but assumptions and misinformation, though I am fairly certain you are trolling given the I wasnt a 55" screen from two foot away comment. I gave reasons based on standards that most cinemas try and adhere to (you know the place movies are made to be seen). If you want to sit 5 foot away from a 110" screen. Be my guest. You are less then the .0001% and will not be able to see the whole image or see it in a comfortable fashion. Also the person with a 40" display trying to talk about not understanding the benefits of a large display to someone with a 65" and 110" setup. Amusing to say the least.

Originally Posted by I KEEL YOU

I'm sorry, but watching a 50-55 inch screen while sitting only 3 feet away is ridiculous and very unpleasant for both the eyes and neck.

What's more is you said that you want to play games like this? How the HELL can you play games like this? I tried playing Battlefield 4 on a 46 from around 5-6 feet and after half an hour-hour worth of playing time, my eyes felt like they were about to fall out of their sockets every time I turned my eyeballs to the corner of the screen to see the radar. I can't imagine how it would be on a 50-55 from 3-4 feet away.

More to the point, if you want it to fill up your fov why not just go to a VR solution. They are already available (albeit not in finalized form which should be next year).

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

mjbethancourt nothing of worth in your posts but assumptions and misinformation, though I am fairly certain you are trolling given the I wasnt a 55" screen from two foot away comment. I gave reasons based on standards that most cinemas try and adhere to (you know the place movies are made to be seen). If you want to sit 5 foot away from a 110" screen. Be my guest. You are less then the .0001% and will not be able to see the whole image or see it in a comfortable fashion. Also the person with a 40" display trying to talk about not understanding the benefits of a large display to someone with a 65" and 110" setup. Amusing to say the least.



More to the point, if you want it to fill up your fov why not just go to a VR solution. They are already available (albeit not in finalized form which should be next year).

I'm sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you, on account of I'm still laughing out loud at the assertions that there is no benefit from going larger than 27" at 3', and that feature films were meant to be seen as a little window on a box instead of as an eye-engaging panorama.

Extrapolated to larger dimensions, 27" at 3' would be the same as sitting 80 feet away from a 60 foot cinema screen; that's probably going to be the back row, if the auditorium is even that large.
Edit: sorry, I forgot to compute for the diagonal nature of the 27" measurement. The corrected analogy is a 52-foot-wide screen at an 80 foot distance.

... pfft, "misinformation and obviously trolling"... you're funny when you're trying not to be, and not funny when you are trying to be. Your sense of humor needs work.

[Suntory_Times]

Originally Posted by mjbethancourt

I'm sorry, what was that? I couldn't hear you, on account of I'm still laughing out loud at the assertions that there is no benefit from going larger than 27" at 3', and that feature films were meant to be seen as a little window on a box instead of as an eye-engaging panorama.

I didn't assert a benefit or negative beyond when you go to to ludicrous levels (eg: 2 foot from a 55"), I stated the recommended viewing distance based on thx and smpte standards and then stated the benefits or lack there off of going beyond uhd resolutions at such a relative screen size.

Extrapolated to larger dimensions, 27" at 3' would be the same as sitting 80 feet away from a 60 foot cinema screen; that's probably going to be the back row, if the auditorium is even that large.

Depends on the cinema. Three screen heights for 2.39:1 content is smpte standard though. Funny how you don't bother addressing any of my points but make up your own versions of what I said and then respond with an equally odd response. Instead of extrapolating, you could take the one minute it would take to find the viewing distance standard as per thx and smpte.

... pfft, "misinformation and obviously trolling"... your sense of humor needs work.

I wasn't being funny nor was I trying to be. You logic needs work though.

I'm done with you regarding this topic. You haven't given a real response thus far and just spewed nonsense Mr "I sit two foot away from a 40" screen but 55" is what I want at that distance". Which yes if that's how you view content going beyond uhd will be of benefit, but I never said otherwise.

[mjbethancourt]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

I'm done with you regarding this topic. You haven't given a real response thus far and just spewed nonsense Mr "I sit two foot away from a 40" screen but 55" is what I want at that distance". Which yes if that's how you view content going beyond uhd will be of benefit, but I never said otherwise.

... and you have yet to say anything that could validate the assertion that a 36-degree viewing angle is the only way to comfortably and correctly view movies.

I said 3' for games and movies, not 2'. But keep repeating that, if it makes your opinions feel more factual to you.

And the backpedaled version of your argument is even more flimsy than the allegedly "straw man" version, now you're saying I'm "wrong" because there is a specific single convergence of parameters for THX viewing-angle recommendations from which benefits of higher resolution diminish, and you are trying to extrapolate that to mean that therefore there is no benefit to going 4K or higher for any home-viewing arrangement; all along, your argument has been founded on the insistence that we all must watch from the recommended viewing-distance/screen-size ratio (which, as Anthony pointed out, isn't actually the recommendation at all, it is in fact the minimum acceptable standard for THX for the worst seat in a cinema auditorium), or we are somehow "doing it wrong". On two separate occasions in this thread, you have stated that 4K and 8K displays have no practical application "for film watching at home", which asserts that the THX minimum standard are somehow absolute, inviolable parameters.

... And the suggestion that you're "right" and I'm "wrong" because you own a bigger TV? Absolutely hilarious.

But whatever, you're right, chief. Nobody needs a bigger screen or a higher resolution, we should all just watch movies on little tablets. You don't know many Americans, do you?

I don't need to cite every detail of that misinterpreted THX recommendation to address your nonsensical point of factpinionation, I understand you (and it) perfectly: nobody needs a bigger screen, you just need to sit closer; and nobody needs a higher resolution, you just need to sit further away... only you can't do both at the same time, can you now? Bit of a problem there, huh? This starting to make sense yet? Is it still escaping you, that your little THX table in fact illustrates the problem for which higher resolutions are the solution? What was that weak crack about logic, again?

Apparently, I need to walk you through this:
You stated the argument that "higher resolutions have no practical application for viewing films at home", based on the premise that "THX publishes recommendations for preserving a specific viewing angle by maintaining the same screen-size-to-viewing-distance ratio, and at what you deem to be the 'comfortable' home viewing distance, the screen is too small to see a benefit". I rejected the argument, on the grounds that I reject the validity of the premise. As I stated from the beginning of our disagreement, my personal first-hand experience tells me that I can comfortably enjoy larger displays at closer distances than what you cited in the THX recommendation, in other words a much larger viewing angle than a measly 30 degrees. You then responded by repeating your premise over and over again and insisting that I've "missed" it or don't understand it.

I shall now reduce our disagreement to a single, simple question:

What part of this do you not understand?

I reject the assertion that "higher resolutions have no practical application for viewing films at home", because my personal experience that I can "comfortably enjoy viewing larger displays at closer distances than THX viewing-angle recommendations" refutes the premise that "at comfortable home-viewing distances THX recommends a screen too small to see the benefit".