As an Amazon associate we earn from qualifying purchases. Thanks for your support!                               
×

Best Blu-ray Movie Deals


Best Blu-ray Movie Deals, See All the Deals »
Top deals | New deals  
 All countries United States United Kingdom Canada Germany France Spain Italy Australia Netherlands Japan Mexico
Happy Gilmore 4K (Blu-ray)
$22.49
8 hrs ago
Creepshow: Complete Series - Seasons 1-4 (Blu-ray)
$68.47
11 hrs ago
Clue 4K (Blu-ray)
$26.59
3 hrs ago
Hard Boiled 4K (Blu-ray)
$49.99
 
The Last Drive-In With Joe Bob Briggs (Blu-ray)
$14.49
11 hrs ago
Casino 4K (Blu-ray)
$29.99
1 day ago
In the Mouth of Madness 4K (Blu-ray)
$36.69
 
Shin Godzilla 4K (Blu-ray)
$34.96
 
Spawn 4K (Blu-ray)
$31.99
 
Back to the Future 4K (Blu-ray)
$29.96
1 day ago
Shane 4K (Blu-ray)
$22.49
10 hrs ago
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba Hashira Training Arc (Blu-ray)
$54.45
12 hrs ago
What's your next favorite movie?
Join our movie community to find out


Image from: Life of Pi (2012)

Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Movies > Blu-ray Movies - North America
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-27-2018, 04:11 PM   #181
GKintz GKintz is offline
Active Member
 
GKintz's Avatar
 
Oct 2014
Default

WAITING FOR OUR REVENGE..

When Bob first shared his Revenge of the Creature findings with me before he took the Archive's "Revenge" webpage public, I was a bit taken aback, as I had originally assumed Revenge was last "escapee in 3-D". Meaning, one of those 3-D shot titles that barely made it out in depth at the end of the Golden Age 3-D releases, most likely with a limited 3-D release. I was shocked to read the history behind the scenes for this title and the lessons that could still be learned today. If you haven't checked out his extensive collection of material on Revenge of the Creature already, it's well worth checking out:
http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/revenge-of-the-creature

Before shooting had even started, 3-D in the box office was already essentially dead, but as Bob Furmanek's research shows, Universal clearly still saw a viable market for 3-D, rebuilt the underwater 3-D rig that had already been dismantled, and urged distributors to show Revenge in depth. Before shooting had even started, the studio felt there was still considerable public interest where occasional 3-D titles could succeed. And they were right. In 1955, when the 3-D craze was easily considered over and all exhibitors were allowed to show the film in either 2-D or 3-D, almost half of the premiere showings for Revenge of the Creature were in 3-Dimensions. It was encouraging enough where Universal considered making new 3-D titles, and in 1957 they reissued both "It Came From Outer Space" and the first "Creature from the Black Lagoon" in their original dual 35mm 3-D formats which again had profitable runs. This too after 3-D movies as a whole had been considered dead by the industry and public alike.

While it did have a successful run, the original 3-D release of Revenge of the Creature suffered a bit, being a victim of circumstance. Many of the stereoscopic features of the 1950s had the luxury of 3-D retakes if needed, as well as additional "3-D TLC" work in post, should any obvious issues with the stereoscopic presentation need corrected. But as Tom Weaver noted in his recent book "Universal Terrors 1951-1955"(*), due to a variety of reasons "Revenge" was running behind schedule and at least $22,000 over budget, which was no meager amount in 1955. Adding to the troubles were also additional shoots for new scenes weeks after filming officially wrapped. With these delays and overages, it is no wonder the various 3-D issues were not at least partially dealt with in post production.

And Revenge of the Creature had a variety of stereoscopic issues. Ranging from out of sync scenes where one eye can be a frame or two ahead of the other eye, some reverse cut 3-D scenes where the right eye is seen by left eye and vise versa, some occasionally wildly inconsistent stereo window placement, and some phasing and brief 2-D shots. Thankfully with today's latest digital tools and our experience with vintage 3-D material, most of these issues have been dealt with, literally on a shot by shot basis. So it is no promotional stretch at all to easily say "Revenge of the Creature" has never looked as good in 3-D as it does now. (**)

Universal's restoration team for this project was top notch, using the best elements and keeping extremely detailed notes all along the way. Their team were always very receptive to our input as well. I cannot wait to see the final disc, as just the improvements I saw from their first scanning tests to when we officially began our work was considerable. I have no doubt further refinements continued long after our contributions were in place, so trust me when I say we're just as anxious to see the final REVENGE as everyone else.

Greg Kintz
Technical Director
3-D Film Archive
http://www.3dfilmarchive.com/


(*) Tom Weaver's excellent book "Universal Terrors 1951-1955" also has extensive coverage of the 3-D classics "It Came From Outer Space" and "Creature from the Black Lagoon". Highly recommended.


(**) Every once in awhile someone will post a comment questioning our laborious shot by shot stereoscopic correction process, or might lament missing "the original charm" of the first run stereoscopic presentation. We are never upset when hearing this question and sometimes chuckle a bit, as it is a case of one simply not understanding the original issues often found in these 60 plus year old titles. We see stereoscopic 3-D on a horizontal plane, per the horizontal spacing difference of our two eyes. In addition, our eyes expect the images to be the same size with no geometric issues or level differences. When these differences occur, our eyes are called to do things they were never designed by nature to do, and that typically results in discomfort, eyestrain, or even to see a double image. The most common issue with these titles is vertical misalignment, which literally causes one eye to look up while the other looks down.. something one would never have to do otherwise. Like 60hz hum in audio, or torn film frames, this is obviously not what the director ever intended. The original productions often did do a fair amount of corrective work in post, but in the analog world of film in the 1950s, this meant a generational loss of quality and additional time and money. With these analog complexities in mind, a good number of issues were often allowed to slip by. Thankfully today's tools allow these corrections to be completely lossless in quality, plus allows for a level of stereoscopic alignment previously unobtainable by the original film makers. And that, literally... is a relief to the eyes.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
bgart13 (08-27-2018), buck135 (08-27-2018), CSM101 (08-27-2018), Davidian (08-27-2018), deltatauhobbit (08-29-2018), Doctorossi (08-27-2018), DrCushing (08-27-2018), HanaBi (08-28-2018), HonestJohn (08-27-2018), horroru (08-27-2018), jimqk (08-27-2018), MartinScorsesefan (09-01-2018), Mr. Thomsen (08-27-2018), Mystic (08-27-2018), ravenus (08-27-2018), revgen (08-27-2018), Robert Furmanek (08-27-2018), robtadrian (08-28-2018), SMOOT (08-27-2018), Willypinhead (08-28-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 04:34 PM   #182
AKORIS AKORIS is offline
Blu-ray Prince
 
AKORIS's Avatar
 
Jul 2008
Beautiful Pacific Northwest
661
3646
19
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great Owl View Post
The Creature from the Black Lagoon set and the Invisible Man set should be on their way to my doorstep for tomorrow.

I’m trying to decide whether to eat the vegetables (Invisible Man series) before eating the dessert (Creature films), but the dessert will probably come first.


(Before anybody’s head explodes, I’ll elaborate and say that I love the Invisible Man flicks dearly. They’re not quite in the Creature ball park, though.)
well, they clearly aren't, I don't think that would be an unpopular opinion. The Invisible Man films are low key and even a bit dull at times... yes of course I still enjoy them for the acting and dialogue, but let's face it-- the "monster" is invisible so it's not exactly at the top of the Universal horror flicks when you have vampires, werewolves, and creatures to enjoy!
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 05:13 PM   #183
Mr. Thomsen Mr. Thomsen is offline
Blu-ray Ninja
 
Mr. Thomsen's Avatar
 
Dec 2010
Denmark
257
3193
293
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
This was my portal to some of the classic Horror films back in the 1970s on TV:

Nice!

This was my gateway to horror movies as a kid:


And also this. For some reason I often found this intro more scary than the movie shown - perhaps due to the screaming.


As you may notice, both are German even though I am Danish. back in the 1970-1980s we only had a single national broadcasting company here in Denmark, and they would rarely show anything that wasn't arthouse or a classic, and even more rarely any horror movie.

So those of us who were bitten by "the bug", and whose parents had not gotten around to get a VCR yet, were left to our own devices. Fortunately German TV would often show old horror movies in the above series.

I think they showed some of the Universal horrors before I started watching, but I never caught any of them. I did, however, see a couple of Hammer horrors and most of the Vincent Price Poe movies. Of course everything was dubbed in German, but growing up near the Danish-German border, we were kinda used to it and spoke the language fluently.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Erasmus Craven (08-28-2018), HanaBi (08-28-2018), Mystic (08-27-2018), ravenus (08-27-2018), robtadrian (08-28-2018), Zillamon51 (08-29-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 05:23 PM   #184
Mystic Mystic is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Mystic's Avatar
 
Oct 2013
19
742
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by horroru View Post
Same here, I lived for Saturday afternoons!
Only problem was Creature Double Feature was 12-4, but Chiller came on at 3:30 and usually showed the Universal Monsters, so if the second movie on CDF was really good I'd miss 1/2 an hour of Chiller...
Oh the problems of youth, pre-home video!
Where I lived Creature Double Feature ran from 1 pm - 4 pm, and sometimes the "Four O'Clock" movie would run another horror film, and I'd end up spending the entire afternoon in front of the tube watching movies until I was almost cross-eyed - LOL. I wish VCRs had been available during those days, I would have loved to have recorded those broadcasts, as some of the movies were never shown again.

Last edited by Mystic; 08-27-2018 at 05:32 PM.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
horroru (08-27-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 05:39 PM   #185
happydood happydood is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
happydood's Avatar
 
Sep 2011
California
204
670
36
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mystic View Post
Where I lived Creature Double Feature ran from 1 pm - 4 pm, and sometimes the "Four O'Clock" movie would run another horror film, and I'd end up spending the entire afternoon in front of the tube watching movies until I was almost cross-eyed - LOL. I wish VCRs had been available during those days, I would have loved to have recorded those broadcasts, as some of the movies were never shown again.
I had the same experience!! One of my fondest memories is buying anaglyph 3d glasses to watch a broadcast of Creature in Chicago back in the 6th grade. My mom drove out of her way to find a 7/11 where they were selling them. It was great, no matter how bad the 3d effect was.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
afr52 (08-29-2018), Mystic (08-28-2018), Spooked (08-28-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 05:44 PM   #186
Mystic Mystic is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Mystic's Avatar
 
Oct 2013
19
742
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Thomsen View Post
Nice!

This was my gateway to horror movies as a kid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70ZN0h5GFYI

And also this. For some reason I often found this intro more scary than the movie shown - perhaps due to the screaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXIjbbet1V4

As you may notice, both are German even though I am Danish. back in the 1970-1980s we only had a single national broadcasting company here in Denmark, and they would rarely show anything that wasn't arthouse or a classic, and even more rarely any horror movie.

So those of us who were bitten by "the bug", and whose parents had not gotten around to get a VCR yet, were left to our own devices. Fortunately German TV would often show old horror movies in the above series.

I think they showed some of the Universal horrors before I started watching, but I never caught any of them. I did, however, see a couple of Hammer horrors and most of the Vincent Price Poe movies. Of course everything was dubbed in German, but growing up near the Danish-German border, we were kinda used to it and spoke the language fluently.
Growing up in the late 1960s into the 1970s, these kind of television programs were the only way to see the Horror films/Sci-Fi films of the 1930-1950s that we read about in magazines such as Famous Monsters Of Filmland. I was alive when Hammer Films was producing their classic films but was a little too young to see some of them in the theater according to my parents. LOL. But I liked the creativity that these local UHF TV stations had in terms of the movies that were shown on these programs, most of which I'd never see again on TV when Cable TV took over, and the local stations were consolidated by the bigger networks to never offer programs like that again.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 06:13 PM   #187
javi92 javi92 is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
Dec 2013
300
4969
875
Default

Just got a shipping notice
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 07:15 PM   #188
Jar Jar Stinks Jar Jar Stinks is offline
Blu-ray Knight
 
Jar Jar Stinks's Avatar
 
Aug 2011
-
-
-
-
246
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Thomsen View Post
And also this. For some reason I often found this intro more scary than the movie shown - perhaps due to the screaming.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXIjbbet1V4
That is so Yellow Submarine! Designed by Heinz Edelmann!
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
HanaBi (08-28-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 08:56 PM   #189
StingingVelvet StingingVelvet is offline
Blu-ray Grand Duke
 
StingingVelvet's Avatar
 
Jan 2014
Philadelphia, PA
852
2331
111
12
69
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TravelNurseRN View Post
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=157

"Dude UHDs of anything pre-2000 are getting iffy reviews and not much enthusiasm. There is a subtle improvement on stuff like Labyrinth and Goodfellas but subtle is the word. I really, really doubt these ever come to UHD and would certainly not buy them even if they did. "

I see the local know-it-all has done a 180, after taking the time to single out and crap on my opinion only a year and a half ago simply for stating I would be willing to buy the UM films on 4k UHD. How about that? Ever since that little tirade of yours, I've always thought you should change your profile pic to Cliff Claven. Maybe next time you want to snark about someone else's opinion you should refrain?
You're like a politician, thinking that someone changing their mind after seeing more evidence and gaining more experience is somehow a bad thing. As The Penguin said, "thing's change."
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Gacivory (08-27-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 10:04 PM   #190
jimqk jimqk is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
jimqk's Avatar
 
Jul 2012
Pennsylvania
7
975
4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by knicolai View Post
I have an 85" Samsung in the livingroom (and a 75" in the bedroom) - both 2015 (I believe), and both 4K 3D, but not HDR or the final HDCP 2.2. I believe the industry was still struggling to specify standards at that point. The PQ on both is fantastic and I wouldn't trade them right now for any newer HDR/HDCP 2.2/OLED, etc TV because these are 3D - the most rare of commodities in large screen TVs today. As a matter of fact, I am toying with the purchase of yet another old and outdated 4K 3D TV, because 3D is what is MOST important to me - the old LG 98". The 85" and a viewing distance of 11' puts me about 2' past optimal 3D immersion, so the 98" would get me where I need to be.

I have 12' of glass sliders, bringing in a lot of sunlight during the day, and I can watch casual daily TV with no problem. And that's what I appreciate about TVs, over projectors. The ol' 98 incher though, is a little spendy...
On Sunday, my brother and I went to the nearest IMAX theater to catch the 50th anniversary re-release of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It was the digital version, not the 70mm version getting released in select theaters. It looked awesome on that giant screen ... but the picture in my eyes was no better than the old Blu-ray version I own. The sound blew me away. It was incredible. My Onkyo at home could never mimic that.

But the sharpness and clarity of the image was as good as my Blu-ray. Of course, the picture was blown up on that gigantic IMAX screen, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. But still, the set-up I have right now at home is pretty good and I feel no urgency to upgrade to HDR yet.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 10:08 PM   #191
The Great Owl The Great Owl is offline
Blu-ray Archduke
 
The Great Owl's Avatar
 
Dec 2012
Georgia
925
6033
28
255
6
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by jimqk View Post
On Sunday, my brother and I went to the nearest IMAX theater to catch the 50th anniversary re-release of 2001: A Space Odyssey. It was the digital version, not the 70mm version getting released in select theaters. It looked awesome on that giant screen ... but the picture in my eyes was no better than the old Blu-ray version I own. The sound blew me away. It was incredible. My Onkyo at home could never mimic that.

But the sharpness and clarity of the image was as good as my Blu-ray. Of course, the picture was blown up on that gigantic IMAX screen, so I'm sure that had something to do with it. But still, the set-up I have right now at home is pretty good and I feel no urgency to upgrade to HDR yet.
I thought about going to see 2001: A Space Odyssey this past weekend when it was playing at the theater down the street from where I live, but I refuse to see movies on IMAX unless they were specifically filmed for that format. I'm still on the lookout for a 70mm showing.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
jimqk (08-27-2018)
Old 08-27-2018, 10:13 PM   #192
Freakyguy666 Freakyguy666 is offline
Banned
 
Jan 2014
3
Default

Are all 3 films on this set 3D restorations?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2018, 10:26 PM   #193
jimqk jimqk is offline
Blu-ray Guru
 
jimqk's Avatar
 
Jul 2012
Pennsylvania
7
975
4
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Freakyguy666 View Post
Are all 3 films on this set 3D restorations?
The first two are, but the third one was not filmed in 3-D. The third one, however, is getting released for the first time on home video in its original widescreen format.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
Freakyguy666 (08-28-2018), SMOOT (08-27-2018), The Great Owl (08-27-2018)
Old 08-28-2018, 07:32 PM   #194
Jar Jar Stinks Jar Jar Stinks is offline
Blu-ray Knight
 
Jar Jar Stinks's Avatar
 
Aug 2011
-
-
-
-
246
Default

Quote:
I just received my pre-ordered copy of THE CREATURE FROM THE BLACK LAGOON COMPLETE LEGACY COLLECTION. Has anyone else tried to watch this set's REVENGE OF THE CREATURE in 3D? The picture is split down the middle with side-by-side, very squeezed, identical versions of the movie (in 2D) on either side of the screen. I tried two different 3D Blu-ray players with the same result.

I own over a hundred 3D Blu-rays, but I've never seen such a thing. I tried watching a couple of other 3D movies just to make sure my Sony TV hadn't gone haywire, but those discs played perfectly. Can anyone comment on this?

Link
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
El_Fez (08-29-2018), GeoffOliver (09-06-2018)
Old 08-28-2018, 08:04 PM   #195
infiniteCR infiniteCR is offline
Blu-ray Samurai
 
infiniteCR's Avatar
 
Jun 2014
327
1648
191
5
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GKintz View Post

Universal's restoration team for this project was top notch, using the best elements and keeping extremely detailed notes all along the way. Their team were always very receptive to our input as well. I cannot wait to see the final disc, as just the improvements I saw from their first scanning tests to when we officially began our work was considerable. I have no doubt further refinements continued long after our contributions were in place, so trust me when I say we're just as anxious to see the final REVENGE as everyone else.
Were those tests reviewed in side by side 3d?
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 08:13 PM   #196
Doctor Jack Doctor Jack is online now
Blu-ray Ninja
 
Doctor Jack's Avatar
 
Oct 2013
230
Default

Mine should be here tomorrow. Not going to open it. See if more people are reporting this issue. Such a shame.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 08:27 PM   #197
RICKBONDOO7 RICKBONDOO7 is offline
Special Member
 
RICKBONDOO7's Avatar
 
Jul 2011
NEW JERSEY
68
810
67
92
Default

Revenge 2d has No grain sharpness or detail !??? Walks looks Much better ! I know the first one looks good because I had it with the original box set and sold it.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 08:30 PM   #198
MifuneFan MifuneFan is online now
Blu-ray Emperor
 
MifuneFan's Avatar
 
Mar 2012
New York City
28
1145
69
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jar Jar Stinks View Post
Sounds like Universal screwed the pooch with how they encoded the disc. Perhaps Bob can reach out to them to get a replacement program put in place.
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-28-2018, 08:31 PM   #199
GKintz GKintz is offline
Active Member
 
GKintz's Avatar
 
Oct 2014
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by infiniteCR View Post
Were those tests reviewed in side by side 3d?
Let's quickly make this clear: It's NOT a restoration issue. If anything, it would be a possible authoring issue, as some have reported watching it in 3-D w/o any issues. And just how many people are having this issue is still unknown.

As noted in my original post, we were were work for hire for a certain stage, not involved in the disc authoring, and still haven't seen the disc yet, so I cannot comment further until more information is available. Anything other at this time would be pure speculation.
  Reply With Quote
Thanks given by:
jimqk (08-29-2018), MartinScorsesefan (09-01-2018), revgen (08-28-2018), Robert Furmanek (08-28-2018), robtadrian (08-29-2018), Tboneator64 (08-28-2018)
Old 08-28-2018, 08:32 PM   #200
Tboneator64 Tboneator64 is offline
Special Member
 
Oct 2014
London, ON; Canada
Default

Based on numerous HTF postings, it appears that side by side viewing is the default for REVENGE OF THE CREATURE (1955), which can be fixed on some devices, but not on others!

In short, it appears that Universal screwed the pooch with this one!
  Reply With Quote
Reply
Go Back   Blu-ray Forum > Movies > Blu-ray Movies - North America

Tags
disk, good, replacement


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:38 PM.