Prince of Darkness (1987) 4K UHD - Page 10 - Blu-ray Forum

private_joker · 11-13-2018, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by psicon

Just tried it on the same model. Exact same issue. Played fine after selecting French.

I don't know if this is a good thing or not!!? I guess I know there's nothing wrong with my disc. I hope this is one off and more discs don't give it issues. In this case it's of no real consequence. Was thinking of getting g a DV player soon and moving this one upstairs. Not many to choose from at the moment. Sony x700 I guess.

Patsfan123 · 11-14-2018, 06:12 PM

The sky shots have to be effects shots and not just poorly compressed. They literally look like 480p quality and not macroblocking.

Geoff D · 11-14-2018, 07:22 PM

The sky shots are effects shots. Even so, no excuse for them to be compressed as badly as that.

StingingVelvet · 11-15-2018, 04:55 AM

Got mine today, watched it ASAP. I'm gonna say it looks wonderful. I did see one of the really bad sky compression shots, when Pleasance arrives and looks up before the woman grabs him, but I must have missed the other one. If you look REALLY CLOSE though I think the shining mirror portal at the end has a tiny bit of compression issues, it's just barely noticeable because there's no motion like in The Fog.

Overall though? Stunning stuff. Like They Live I'm gonna say anyone but the pickiest of picky videophiles is safe to order this one.

Movie is... interesting. It's not my thing really, but I love Carpenter enough to want all his stuff. It reminds me of Hellraiser a tiny bit, though more entertaining. LOVED the soundtrack though, and it's undeniably moody.

GiorgioV · 11-15-2018, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Patsfan123

The sky shots have to be effects shots and not just poorly compressed. They literally look like 480p quality and not macroblocking.

That is exactly what I was trying to convey, a while back.

hYPE · 11-15-2018, 07:23 AM

Still haven't gotten my copy of the 4k steel. Hopefully soon, should have been here between the 7th-14th.

The Beast Within · 11-15-2018, 07:37 AM

Got to watch it last night, very happy with the disc. Watched it projected, and was expecting the worst due to the comments here on the macroblocking and compression, but overall I thought it looked great. Perhaps projecting it was a tad more forgiving, but I reckon if I hadn't been specifically looking for the issues with the sky shots (I noticed two shots, one in particular was brutal looking), they'd have breezed past me, and probably would have with anyone else watching with me.

Overall, it's a lowly lit movie for the most part, but it looked great considering. The daylight outdoor scenes near the start looked like they could have been shot yesterday, and had great depth and clarity. Movie wise, it's still a favourite, and I'm glad that this will be my go-to disc for future screenings.

The Beast Within · 11-15-2018, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Movie is... interesting. It's not my thing really, but I love Carpenter enough to want all his stuff. It reminds me of Hellraiser a tiny bit, though more entertaining. LOVED the soundtrack though, and it's undeniably moody.

Sounds like you enjoyed it more than you did previously, at least. I think the score is up there with Halloween 3 as Carpenter/Howarth best.

StingingVelvet · 11-15-2018, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by The Beast Within

Sounds like you enjoyed it more than you did previously, at least.

Yeah, last time I saw it was on VHS I think! I got the Scream Factory BD but never got around to watching it. I remember thinking it was pretty lame on VHS, but I found a lot more to enjoy this time around. The score and sense of dread are really good, and the UHD looks lovely which helps.

I'm not really a "horror guy" outside the big 80's franchises, but I love Carpenter's style so much pretty much everything he does is worth owning. Still need to get Village of the Dammed but I hear that transfer is horrible.

The Beast Within · 11-15-2018, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Yeah, last time I saw it was on VHS I think! I got the Scream Factory BD but never got around to watching it. I remember thinking it was pretty lame on VHS, but I found a lot more to enjoy this time around. The score and sense of dread are really good, and the UHD looks lovely which helps.

I'm not really a "horror guy" outside the big 80's franchises, but I love Carpenter's style so much pretty much everything he does is worth owning. Still need to get Village of the Dammed but I hear that transfer is horrible.

I'd be a pretty big horror fan (I'm an all-rounder on movies in general though) but even I'll say it's not just the transfer that's bad about VOTD

my cut off point is In the Mouth of Madness, I have no love for Vampires, or Ghosts of Mars either. Hope you enjoy VOTD whenever you get to it!

DR Herbert West · 11-15-2018, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

Still need to get Village of the Dammed but I hear that transfer is horrible.

It is.

StingingVelvet · 11-16-2018, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Beast Within

I'd be a pretty big horror fan (I'm an all-rounder on movies in general though) but even I'll say it's not just the transfer that's bad about VOTD

my cut off point is In the Mouth of Madness, I have no love for Vampires, or Ghosts of Mars either. Hope you enjoy VOTD whenever you get to it!

I can't say Ghosts of Mars or Vampires are good movies, but I do find them entertaining anyway. I haven't seen Village of the Dammed since VHS. I doubt it will ever get a better transfer, so I'll probably grab the Scream edition in a sale someday. Though I guess since I just watched a 4k UHD of Prince of Darkness you really never know...

The Beast Within · 11-16-2018, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I can't say Ghosts of Mars or Vampires are good movies, but I do find them entertaining anyway. I haven't seen Village of the Dammed since VHS. I doubt it will ever get a better transfer, so I'll probably grab the Scream edition in a sale someday. Though I guess since I just watched a 4k UHD of Prince of Darkness you really never know...

Yep, frankly amazed that we are getting titles like this in 4k already. Probably less surprised about the issues on the transfers. Things can only get better, I guess...

King Crimson · 11-16-2018, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I can't say Ghosts of Mars or Vampires are good movies, but I do find them entertaining anyway. I haven't seen Village of the Dammed since VHS. I doubt it will ever get a better transfer, so I'll probably grab the Scream edition in a sale someday. Though I guess since I just watched a 4k UHD of Prince of Darkness you really never know...

I need a UHD 4K of Vampires with James Woods in all his bad ass glory.

kristoffer · 11-16-2018, 10:00 PM

I saw this tonight and was overall happy. I noticed the dip in compression here and there, but it wasn't too bad. I did notice a weird flicker a couple of times though. It was especially bad the first time the priest and the Birack inspect the green orb the first time. I watched in Dolby Vision with my Oppo on my LG OLED.
The sound was really good though in 2.0 24 bit.

Whenever I start watching this film I always thinks it is a bit slow, but I forget all that when I really starts going. There are some really weird and wonderful ideas in this!

grodd · 11-17-2018, 03:06 PM

Finally watched this last night in Dolby Vision. Overall very very happy. Superior to the Fog in a couple ways. Some minor darkness here and there. The macroblocking was far less noticeable than the Fog. No Minecraft squares.

As some have mentioned there are still some macroblocking shots when looking at the sky. Three in total when switching back from DV to HDR10. 1st when Wong looks up at the sky, 2nd Cooper, 3rd Pleasence. On HDR10 they are all clearly worse. The 3rd shot is the most cleaned up on DV.

Soundtrack wise I was very happy. I have more respect than ever for the soundtrack. Strong with deep base.

A couple other tidbits. I had a minor lip sync issue that I had to adjust for while watching this one through the soundbar. Halloween is the only other. Both fixable just annoying.

The extras disc would not play on the Panasonic using the top menu trick. It wouldn't even give me a "wrong region" message. Going to play with this further. (Even my Blu ray burner had a hard time playing this) Fun to watch once I finally got it to play.
The main disc itself takes a bit longer to start, but plays fine.

aaronsaylor · 11-17-2018, 04:21 PM

My UHD disc is faulty, too. The Fog and They Live were fine. This is the first purchase i’ve made from Zavvi so I hope there’s no problem getting a replacement.

StingingVelvet · 11-17-2018, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

I need a UHD 4K of Vampires with James Woods in all his bad ass glory.

I'd like to say the Indicator was the last time I'll purchase that movie, but I'd probably be kidding myself.

King Crimson · 11-18-2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by StingingVelvet

I'd like to say the Indicator was the last time I'll purchase that movie, but I'd probably be kidding myself.

My friend owns this release and was tempted to get it, but unless it drops in price I am hoping for a Arrow quality release or a UHD at this point(it being a Sony release...PLEASE GOD). One of my fav's from Carpenter.

Dailyan · 11-18-2018, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by King Crimson

My friend owns this release and was tempted to get it, but unless it drops in price I am hoping for a Arrow quality release or a UHD at this point(it being a Sony release...PLEASE GOD). One of my fav's from Carpenter.

I wouldn't be too surprised if Sony was quietly working on an UHD. Hell, "Christine" came out of left field for an UHD so anything is possible.

11-17-2018, 03:06 PM	#196
grodd Power Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Northern CA Trading Score:3	Finally watched this last night in Dolby Vision. Overall very very happy. Superior to the Fog in a couple ways. Some minor darkness here and there. The macroblocking was far less noticeable than the Fog. No Minecraft squares. As some have mentioned there are still some macroblocking shots when looking at the sky. Three in total when switching back from DV to HDR10. 1st when Wong looks up at the sky, 2nd Cooper, 3rd Pleasence. On HDR10 they are all clearly worse. The 3rd shot is the most cleaned up on DV. Soundtrack wise I was very happy. I have more respect than ever for the soundtrack. Strong with deep base. A couple other tidbits. I had a minor lip sync issue that I had to adjust for while watching this one through the soundbar. Halloween is the only other. Both fixable just annoying. The extras disc would not play on the Panasonic using the top menu trick. It wouldn't even give me a "wrong region" message. Going to play with this further. (Even my Blu ray burner had a hard time playing this) Fun to watch once I finally got it to play. The main disc itself takes a bit longer to start, but plays fine. Last edited by grodd; 11-17-2018 at 03:46 PM.

11-14-2018, 06:12 PM	#182
Patsfan123 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Boston, MA 4K collection:1263 Blu-ray collection:5583 DVD collection:22 MA collection:3 Digital collection:491 iTunes collection:1494 Prime collection:276 Trading Score:6	The sky shots have to be effects shots and not just poorly compressed. They literally look like 480p quality and not macroblocking.

11-14-2018, 07:22 PM	#183
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	The sky shots are effects shots. Even so, no excuse for them to be compressed as badly as that.

11-15-2018, 04:55 AM	#184
StingingVelvet Blu-ray Grand Duke Member since:Jan 2014 Location:Philadelphia, PA 4K collection:853 Blu-ray collection:2332 DVD collection:111 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:69	Got mine today, watched it ASAP. I'm gonna say it looks wonderful. I did see one of the really bad sky compression shots, when Pleasance arrives and looks up before the woman grabs him, but I must have missed the other one. If you look REALLY CLOSE though I think the shining mirror portal at the end has a tiny bit of compression issues, it's just barely noticeable because there's no motion like in The Fog. Overall though? Stunning stuff. Like They Live I'm gonna say anyone but the pickiest of picky videophiles is safe to order this one. Movie is... interesting. It's not my thing really, but I love Carpenter enough to want all his stuff. It reminds me of Hellraiser a tiny bit, though more entertaining. LOVED the soundtrack though, and it's undeniably moody.

11-15-2018, 07:23 AM	#186
hYPE Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Texas 4K collection:466 Blu-ray collection:1043 DVD collection:27 Trading Score:61	Still haven't gotten my copy of the 4k steel. Hopefully soon, should have been here between the 7th-14th.

11-15-2018, 07:37 AM	#187
The Beast Within Active Member Member since:Sep 2018 Location:Cork, Ireland 4K collection:12 Blu-ray collection:382	Got to watch it last night, very happy with the disc. Watched it projected, and was expecting the worst due to the comments here on the macroblocking and compression, but overall I thought it looked great. Perhaps projecting it was a tad more forgiving, but I reckon if I hadn't been specifically looking for the issues with the sky shots (I noticed two shots, one in particular was brutal looking), they'd have breezed past me, and probably would have with anyone else watching with me. Overall, it's a lowly lit movie for the most part, but it looked great considering. The daylight outdoor scenes near the start looked like they could have been shot yesterday, and had great depth and clarity. Movie wise, it's still a favourite, and I'm glad that this will be my go-to disc for future screenings.

11-16-2018, 10:00 PM	#195
kristoffer Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2010 Location:Denmark	I saw this tonight and was overall happy. I noticed the dip in compression here and there, but it wasn't too bad. I did notice a weird flicker a couple of times though. It was especially bad the first time the priest and the Birack inspect the green orb the first time. I watched in Dolby Vision with my Oppo on my LG OLED. The sound was really good though in 2.0 24 bit. Whenever I start watching this film I always thinks it is a bit slow, but I forget all that when I really starts going. There are some really weird and wonderful ideas in this!

11-17-2018, 04:21 PM	#197
aaronsaylor Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:Louisville, KY 4K collection:134 Blu-ray collection:475 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:59	My UHD disc is faulty, too. The Fog and They Live were fine. This is the first purchase i’ve made from Zavvi so I hope there’s no problem getting a replacement.

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