Spider-Man : Across the Spider-Verse (2023) [Never in 3D]

[longhornsk57]

Here's a little more info on the unofficial conversion scene.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/a-n...28063/#replies

It has come a very long way and currently you can use tools to convert some of these to 3D with virtually studio-like quality. The version of this movie that is floating out there is some dude JFC who is pretty good at these conversions, but recent efforts have gotten even better.

I have personally seen this 3D "conversion" and would rank it as more enjoyable than the 4K variant as it does have good depth and minor to virtually zero errors or warping. It's one of the best non studio conversions I have ever seen.

Animated tend to be a little easier to do than live action movies, but all the same these are not "auto converted" but also not done frame by frame, but they are poeple using specific software to do them.

As mentioned I feel the legality is on par with backing up your own blurays if you are modifying these yourself and not distributing them as pirated content. As such I won't mention on here where to find this or anything like that, but just to comment on the quality it's actually really good.

I think DMCA is still a gray area as it is extremely outdated and one could use examples of encryption circumvention such as Android rooting to change your own device settings for instance that could be applied to invalidate DMCA as illegal when not used for distribution purposes, but I don't want to derail this thread so that's the only commentary I will mention.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by longhornsk57

Here's a little more info on the unofficial conversion scene.

https://www.avsforum.com/threads/a-n...28063/#replies

It has come a very long way and currently you can use tools to convert some of these to 3D with virtually studio-like quality. The version of this movie that is floating out there is some dude JFC who is pretty good at these conversions, but recent efforts have gotten even better.

I have personally seen this 3D "conversion" and would rank it as more enjoyable than the 4K variant as it does have good depth and minor to virtually zero errors or warping. It's one of the best non studio conversions I have ever seen.

Animated tend to be a little easier to do than live action movies, but all the same these are not "auto converted" but also not done frame by frame, but they are poeple using specific software to do them.

As mentioned I feel the legality is on par with backing up your own blurays if you are modifying these yourself and not distributing them as pirated content. As such I won't mention on here where to find this or anything like that, but just to comment on the quality it's actually really good.

I think DMCA is still a gray area as it is extremely outdated and one could use examples of encryption circumvention such as Android rooting to change your own device settings for instance that could be applied to invalidate DMCA as illegal when not used for distribution purposes, but I don't want to derail this thread so that's the only commentary I will mention.

Android rooting has nothing to do with copy protection... It is an administration login to manage the OS. Linux OSes use root access to prevent base users to damage it like Windows users used to do on legacy Windows OSes and Android is an Linux OS made by Google for smartphone/tablet devices. The thing is if the rooting software bricks the device Google and the manufacturer avoid warranty if it isn't rooted in the first place. They won't call the authorities to give you a fine or lock you up in jail.

[longhornsk57]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Android rooting has nothing to do with copy protection... It is an administration login to manage the OS. Linux OSes use root access to prevent base users to damage it like Windows users used to do on legacy Windows OSes and Android is an Linux OS made by Google for smartphone/tablet devices. The thing is if the rooting software bricks the device Google and the manufacturer avoid warranty if it isn't rooted in the first place. They won't call the authorities to give you a fine or lock you up in jail.

It does when you disable knox and circumvent other ways of OEM prevention. I am not talking about fastboot oem unlock from a vanilla AOSP device I am talking about rooting HTC, Samsung, even "jailbreaking" iOS devices which we can agree is not a GPL licensed software, none of that is deemed illegal. You are bypassing encryption in order to backup/modify your purchased goods.

I don't think studios are "calling the authorities" for people who back up their own library with zero distribution either so I am not sure where you're going with that as well. If you don't like the analogy that's fine but my point stands that DMCA is anachronous and could be interpreted either way for purposes of personal backups.

Anyways none of that is even the core of my point which is the conversion on this is actually pretty good and worth watching, and if you get good enough using the software could make a decent version that rivals the 4K.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by longhornsk57

It does when you disable knox and circumvent other ways of OEM prevention. I am not talking about fastboot oem unlock from a vanilla AOSP device I am talking about rooting HTC, Samsung, even "jailbreaking" iOS devices which we can agree is not a GPL licensed software, none of that is deemed illegal. You are bypassing encryption in order to backup/modify your purchased goods.

I don't think studios are "calling the authorities" for people who back up their own library with zero distribution either so I am not sure where you're going with that as well. If you don't like the analogy that's fine but my point stands that DMCA is anachronous and could be interpreted either way for purposes of personal backups.

Anyways none of that is even the core of my point which is the conversion on this is actually pretty good and worth watching, and if you get good enough using the software could make a decent version that rivals the 4K.

Just rooting doesn't hack or do anything illegal to any device of any manufacturer, just voids warranty stablished by the manufacturer by contract of purchase. Maybe the software of the device would be protected by law as they're IP of the manufacturer, much like cracking video games or bypassing discs copyright protection.

But I get your point.

[longhornsk57]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

Just rooting doesn't hack or do anything illegal to any device of any manufacturer, just voids warranty stablished by the manufacturer by contract of purchase. Maybe the software of the device would be protected by law as they're IP of the manufacturer, much like cracking video games or bypassing discs copyright protection.

But I get your point.

Agree to disagree on bypassing KNOX or rooting the PS4, switch etc (which do allow piracy), as these require reverse engineering the software the OEM is using and not using playing with a kernel, but either way the like you mentioned the main point is what it is. I don't actually care that much and could use a better more preferred analogy, but my actual main point here the quality of the conversion is actually pretty good and to me rivals the 4K version.

[Jlardonio]

Originally Posted by longhornsk57

Agree to disagree on bypassing KNOX or rooting the PS4, switch etc (which do allow piracy), as these require reverse engineering the software the OEM is using and not using playing with a kernel, but either way the like you mentioned the main point is what it is. I don't actually care that much and could use a better more preferred analogy, but my actual main point here the quality of the conversion is actually pretty good and to me rivals the 4K version.

You are mixing unlawful actions with legal administrative privileges of Open-Source OSes. Every Linux/Unix OS has an administrative root account that allows whoever access it the permitions to do whatever one wants with the OS... even erase everything in the drive. Root access wasn't meant for piracy, just to manage the OS without restrictions implemented in the OS as to prevent erasing important system files. Reverse engeneering exists for several areas to make better products, discover flaws and prevent harm on buyers by governmental departments.

As the movie being able to rival a 4K movie is just another rock on the 2D that 4K brought as the 3D format is the best for watching any movie (since well done and not just and autoconversion without quality control).

[longhornsk57]

Originally Posted by Jlardonio

You are mixing unlawful actions with legal administrative privileges of Open-Source OSes. Every Linux/Unix OS has an administrative root account that allows whoever access it the permitions to do whatever one wants with the OS... even erase everything in the drive. Root access wasn't meant for piracy, just to manage the OS without restrictions implemented in the OS as to prevent erasing important system files. Reverse engeneering exists for several areas to make better products, discover flaws and prevent harm on buyers by governmental departments.

As the movie being able to rival a 4K movie is just another rock on the 2D that 4K brought as the 3D format is the best for watching any movie (since well done and not just and autoconversion without quality control).

I know what root is, and you obviously know I am talking about circumventing closed sourced preventative measure and security / decryption keys to attain it, which is commonly used for piracy such as on gaming systems. Nobody is talking about superuser access or sudo commands on linux or vanilla aosp.

And I do agree that 3D is the best format for any movie, and the conversion scene is getting better and better and this one really shines. I really hope the third one gets an official conversion but if not I would be interested to see what the community comes up with. I wonder if there is any word on that

[spider-neil]

I've watched the million again for what seems like the hundredth time. It's a crime that there is no 3D version of this movie, considering how well Into the Spider-Verse turned out.

I also saw the animated Spider-Verse short (with Miles having nightmares). I enjoyed it, but I would have preferred the time and money to have been spent on a 3D conversion of Across the Spider-Verse.