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JavaJulien · 05-06-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by manicsounds

What Disney SHOULD do with the Fantasia 2000 disc is to unlock the special features.

It's been mentioned before, but all the bonus material that is supposedly only available to stream via BDLive, are actually on the disc, hidden away!

The only problem is that those contents are inaccessible. Now, if Disney just gives a key via BDLive to watch the stuff instead of having it streamed, problem solved.

This is true. I bought a rental copy of How to Train Your Dragon not realizing that everything was locked. I popped it in one day and sddenly all the other features were unlocked.

How to get Disney to do that is a mystery though.

MrHT · 05-06-2013, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by manicsounds

It's been mentioned before, but all the bonus material that is supposedly only available to stream via BDLive, are actually on the disc, hidden away!

Well that's crazy. So why did they require BD-Live in order to access the special features if they're on the disc?

blu-ray_girl_fan · 05-06-2013, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrHT

Well that's crazy. So why did they require BD-Live in order to access the special features if they're on the disc?

You answered your own question.

Jett Rink · 05-06-2013, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

You answered your own question.

But why not just have the special features on the disc or an extra disc. Why go through BD-Live?

blu-ray_girl_fan · 05-06-2013, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Jett Blu

But why not just have the special features on the disc or an extra disc. Why go through BD-Live?

Data collection -- they want to monitor what people do.

Essentially, Disney wants to know if it's worth the bother creating certain types of Bonus Features. They're aware that there are adults who really care about behind-the-scenes production stuff, but if the vast majority of people won't ever watch those featurettes, Disney has no incentive to produce them in the first place.

Just look at what happened with The Avengers -- a pathetic amount of Bonus Features, especially when compared to the feature-length documentaries for Iron Man and Iron Man 2.

JavaJulien · 05-06-2013, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Jett Blu

But why not just have the special features on the disc or an extra disc. Why go through BD-Live?

Using the cloud was cheaper than printing the additional discs. When it comes down to it, the average buyer will not care that the extra special features are locked on the disc. At most, they're going to look for the deleted scenes and maybe the music videos (which Disney wisely kept on the disc). So they used the BD-Live/Virtual Vault to save a quick buck, because only a select minority would actually complain about it.

That and, as Ernest Rister theorized in the past, it can keep the enthusiasts from pawning off their old DVD sets.

AlucardtheIII · 05-13-2013, 10:51 PM

My Blockbuster is shutting down and has copies of Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 previously viewed for $9.99 each. Should I jump on it at that price?

Edword · 05-13-2013, 10:51 PM

Yes.

mzupeman · 05-13-2013, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by AlucardtheIII

My Blockbuster is shutting down and has copies of Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 previously viewed for $9.99 each. Should I jump on it at that price?

Considering you normally cant find it still sealed for less than $40, yep!

RBBrittain · 05-13-2013, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JavaJulien

Using the cloud was cheaper than printing the additional discs.

The extra features WERE on the disc, only hidden. There would have been NO "additional discs" to print; the menu to make them visible almost certainly would have taken less disc space than the BD-Live client. Doing what they did was more expensive then either disc-only or cloud-only extras.

RBBrittain · 05-13-2013, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AlucardtheIII

My Blockbuster is shutting down and has copies of Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 previously viewed for $9.99 each. Should I jump on it at that price?

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Originally Posted by mzupeman

Considering you normally cant find it still sealed for less than $40, yep!

+1, not to mention Fantasia seems to be the one title kept in the Disney Vault closest to Walt's cryogenically-preserved head.

qtrules · 07-19-2013, 02:09 AM

has anyone attempted to use the virtual vault recently?

blu-ray_girl_fan · 07-19-2013, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by qtrules

has anyone attempted to use the virtual vault recently?

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1959

animefan77 · 07-19-2013, 03:07 AM

yeah, this is why I hated the idea of virtual vault from the beginning and stopped selling my Disney DVDs. We are at the mercy of the studio this way. Unfortunately for me, I sold my 3-disc Fantasia DVD set before I found out about the virtual vault, so I lost all those extras.

The Snow White Blu-ray was so good that I was comfortable selling all of my DVDs at that time. I really regret doing lot of them now

qtrules · 07-19-2013, 03:22 AM

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Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...postcount=1959

thanks.

but has anyone tried again recently?

animefan77 · 07-19-2013, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by qtrules

thanks.

but has anyone tried again recently?

Yeah, I tried it before I posted, it still doesn't work.

qtrules · 07-19-2013, 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by animefan77

Yeah, I tried it before I posted, it still doesn't work.

darn

i don't think i ever got a chance to watch the bonus stuff before it was taken away.

couldn't this be grounds for some kind of class action suit? did disney willfully advertise the bonus features on the case? or use it as a point of interest to get us to buy the blu-ray? they should keep the bonuses available for the long haul! i can't see it taking that much bandwidth and/or space....

cheese.its1 · 07-19-2013, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by qtrules

darn

i don't think i ever got a chance to watch the bonus stuff before it was taken away.

couldn't this be grounds for some kind of class action suit? did disney willfully advertise the bonus features on the case? or use it as a point of interest to get us to buy the blu-ray? they should keep the bonuses available for the long haul! i can't see it taking that much bandwidth and/or space....

Yes it is defintely FRAUD on Disneys part, that is how ALL corporations act and defraud consumers every single day - Also this should let people know why DIGITAL IS FRAUD ON ITS FACE

Vriess · 07-19-2013, 08:44 AM

That is pretty disappointing about the special features

Ernest Rister · 07-19-2013, 10:26 AM

The a/v quality is through the roof. Just crazy good.

Everything else about the set was bizarre...including the limited four month release window.

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05-13-2013, 10:51 PM	#1987
AlucardtheIII Active Member Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray collection:275 Trading Score:1	My Blockbuster is shutting down and has copies of Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 previously viewed for $9.99 each. Should I jump on it at that price?

05-13-2013, 10:51 PM	#1988
Edword Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Jul 2011 Location:SoCal, CA 4K collection:246 Blu-ray collection:615 DVD collection:13 Digital collection:176 Trading Score:254	Yes.

07-19-2013, 02:09 AM	#1992
qtrules Active Member Member since:Jun 2012 Location:canada Blu-ray collection:95 DVD collection:64 iTunes collection:1 Trading Score:1	has anyone attempted to use the virtual vault recently?

07-19-2013, 03:07 AM	#1994
animefan77 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2009 4K collection:654 Blu-ray collection:7337 DVD collection:191 Digital collection:1313 Blu-ray reviews: 3 Trading Score:261	yeah, this is why I hated the idea of virtual vault from the beginning and stopped selling my Disney DVDs. We are at the mercy of the studio this way. Unfortunately for me, I sold my 3-disc Fantasia DVD set before I found out about the virtual vault, so I lost all those extras. The Snow White Blu-ray was so good that I was comfortable selling all of my DVDs at that time. I really regret doing lot of them now

07-19-2013, 08:44 AM	#1999
Vriess Expert Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:S Florida 4K collection:162 Blu-ray collection:780 DVD collection:62 Digital collection:14 Blu-ray reviews:4 Trading Score:29	That is pretty disappointing about the special features

07-19-2013, 10:26 AM	#2000
Ernest Rister Blu-ray Prince Member since:Jan 2008 4K collection:100 Blu-ray collection:590 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	The a/v quality is through the roof. Just crazy good. Everything else about the set was bizarre...including the limited four month release window.

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