The Elephant Man (1980) - Page 11 - Blu-ray Forum

moviemaker · 08-21-2020, 10:43 PM

Yes thank you Bates_Motel for that comparison. It's very fustrating for sure but not a deal breaker for me. And knowing Lynch he's a bit contradictory in his releases. Very peculiar about the sound, color timing, chapter stops, etc. but if an accident occurs, he seems to act as if it's the Unified Field at work and moves on.

BTW that Mike Figgis interview is taken directly from the UK Optimum Blu-Ray of "Inland Empire." Not sure if anyone mentioned it.

I remember taking an art class taught by his associate producer who was also an artist. We had spoken about working with David and I mentioned I had all these DVDs from overseas as I couldn't find his movies here at all. So one day, after class he asked to see the DVDs I had of Lynch's movies from Germany, France, etc. Movies like Wild at Heart (Sailor et Lulu), Lost Highway, etc. The producer just shook his head and said at the time David had no control over his films but he wanted to change that. He didn't even realize many of these had been released overseas. Then he said "Can I have these to show David?" And I handed all of them over to him.

Later he gave them all back, thanking me and said the transfers are really crappy. David really wants to work on getting his films back.

Filmmaker · 08-21-2020, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by moviemaker

Yes thank you Bates_Motel for that comparison. It's very fustrating for sure but not a deal breaker for me. And knowing Lynch he's a bit contradictory in his releases. Very peculiar about the sound, color timing, chapter stops, etc. but if an accident occurs, he seems to act as if it's the Unified Field at work and moves on.

BTW that Mike Figgis interview is taken directly from the UK Optimum Blu-Ray of "Inland Empire." Not sure if anyone mentioned it.

I remember taking an art class taught by his associate producer who was also an artist. We had spoken about working with David and I mentioned I had all these DVDs from overseas as I couldn't find his movies here at all. So one day, after class he asked to see the DVDs I had of Lynch's movies from Germany, France, etc. Movies like Wild at Heart (Sailor et Lulu), Lost Highway, etc. The producer just shook his head and said at the time David had no control over his films but he wanted to change that. He didn't even realize many of these had been released overseas. Then he said "Can I have these to show David?" And I handed all of them over to him.

Later he gave them all back, thanking me and said the transfers are really crappy. David really wants to work on getting his films back.

How does it feel to be literally the coolest member of this entire forum?

moviemaker · 08-21-2020, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Filmmaker

How does it feel to be literally the coolest member of this entire forum?

Ha! I'm not but thank you for the kind words. Right place right time...

Stockslivevan · 08-23-2020, 09:45 AM

Fade or no fade. It's not a big deal to me.

bonerjams2003 · 08-23-2020, 02:44 PM

Packaging
Inner print
Booklet

so this means its just a basic case and not a slipcase? I was really hoping for a nice thick textured black digibook. maybe I should just buy the 4K after all

ihaveblink · 09-11-2020, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bonerjams2003

Packaging
Inner print
Booklet

so this means its just a basic case and not a slipcase? I was really hoping for a nice thick textured black digibook. maybe I should just buy the 4K after all

I just got this in the mail yesterday and yes, it is a digipak like the previous Lynch releases on Criterion.

HotTastyChili · 09-13-2020, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ihaveblink

I just got this in the mail yesterday and yes, it is a digipak like the previous Lynch releases on Criterion.

Does it have the fade missing from the Studiocanal release?

MifuneFan · 08-23-2020, 02:58 PM

So far every David Lynch film from Criterion has come in a Digipak, so I have to imagine this will as well.

UnbelievableMontages · 09-11-2020, 01:52 PM

Comparing the review of the Criterion to the 4K, doesn't sound like there's really much of a drastic difference between the two. So owning the Criterion where it's just slightly inferior doesn't sound bad at all.

DukeTogo84 · 09-23-2020, 08:41 PM

Well, mine will be here on Friday from Bullmoose. Excited to watch this as I haven't seen it in a very long time and never owned it in any format.

Scottie · 09-26-2020, 02:08 AM

Packaging photos courtesy of Svet.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-E...648/#Packaging

DukeTogo84 · 09-27-2020, 02:41 PM

Watched my copy the other night and the film looked great. Sound felt a bit strange so, so I had to put on the subtitles. Either way, it was a good release.

Rzzzz · 09-27-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Watched my copy the other night and the film looked great. Sound felt a bit strange so, so I had to put on the subtitles. Either way, it was a good release.

Strange how? Like too low?

DukeTogo84 · 09-27-2020, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rzzzz

Strange how? Like too low?

Just hard to hear the dialogue. The background noise seemed really high, like steam noises and such. I had a hard time hearing a lot of the dialogue when the character were speaking more casually and not yelling.

Rzzzz · 09-27-2020, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Just hard to hear the dialogue. The background noise seemed really high, like steam noises and such. I had a hard time hearing a lot of the dialogue when the character were speaking more casually and not yelling.

Damn, I hate that. I also hate when the background music is played so loud, you can't hear what they are saying...

DukeTogo84 · 09-27-2020, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rzzzz

Damn, I hate that. I also hate when the background music is played so loud, you can't hear what they are saying...

Yeah, there are quiet a few films that do this for whatever reason. It's especially hard to understand John Merrick to begin with, without the dialogue being lower. Either way, it wasn't horrible, just a challenge at times which is why I had to turn on the subtitles.

emmet otter · 09-27-2020, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Just hard to hear the dialogue. The background noise seemed really high, like steam noises and such. I had a hard time hearing a lot of the dialogue when the character were speaking more casually and not yelling.

Damn! Does anyone else experience this?

Kyle15 · 09-27-2020, 03:38 PM

Criterion probably performed a lil bit of their trademark in-house sound-krunchifying.

Christian Muth · 09-27-2020, 03:40 PM

If the review on this site is to be trusted, they downmixed it to mono from the original Dolby Stereo.

Chris

BluProofie · 09-27-2020, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Christian Muth

If the review on this site is to be trusted, they downmixed it to mono from the original Dolby Stereo.

Chris

No, that was a review error. It’s in stereo.

08-21-2020, 10:43 PM	#1
moviemaker Special Member Top contributor Member since:Sep 2009 Location:Hollywoodland 4K collection:314 Blu-ray collection:903 DVD collection:71 Blu-ray reviews:1	Yes thank you Bates_Motel for that comparison. It's very fustrating for sure but not a deal breaker for me. And knowing Lynch he's a bit contradictory in his releases. Very peculiar about the sound, color timing, chapter stops, etc. but if an accident occurs, he seems to act as if it's the Unified Field at work and moves on. BTW that Mike Figgis interview is taken directly from the UK Optimum Blu-Ray of "Inland Empire." Not sure if anyone mentioned it. I remember taking an art class taught by his associate producer who was also an artist. We had spoken about working with David and I mentioned I had all these DVDs from overseas as I couldn't find his movies here at all. So one day, after class he asked to see the DVDs I had of Lynch's movies from Germany, France, etc. Movies like Wild at Heart (Sailor et Lulu), Lost Highway, etc. The producer just shook his head and said at the time David had no control over his films but he wanted to change that. He didn't even realize many of these had been released overseas. Then he said "Can I have these to show David?" And I handed all of them over to him. Later he gave them all back, thanking me and said the transfers are really crappy. David really wants to work on getting his films back. Last edited by moviemaker; 08-21-2020 at 10:57 PM.

08-23-2020, 09:45 AM	#4
Stockslivevan Member Member since:Feb 2010	Fade or no fade. It's not a big deal to me.

08-23-2020, 02:44 PM	#5
bonerjams2003 Active Member Member since:Aug 2019	Packaging Inner print Booklet so this means its just a basic case and not a slipcase? I was really hoping for a nice thick textured black digibook. maybe I should just buy the 4K after all

08-23-2020, 02:58 PM	#8
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	So far every David Lynch film from Criterion has come in a Digipak, so I have to imagine this will as well.

09-11-2020, 01:52 PM	#9
UnbelievableMontages Special Member Member since:Oct 2017 Trading Score:34	Comparing the review of the Criterion to the 4K, doesn't sound like there's really much of a drastic difference between the two. So owning the Criterion where it's just slightly inferior doesn't sound bad at all.

09-23-2020, 08:41 PM	#10
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	Well, mine will be here on Friday from Bullmoose. Excited to watch this as I haven't seen it in a very long time and never owned it in any format.

09-26-2020, 02:08 AM	#11
Scottie Moderator Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Rhode Island Trading Score:647	Packaging photos courtesy of Svet. https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/The-E...648/#Packaging

09-27-2020, 02:41 PM	#12
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4931 Blu-ray reviews: 62 Trading Score:138	Watched my copy the other night and the film looked great. Sound felt a bit strange so, so I had to put on the subtitles. Either way, it was a good release.

09-27-2020, 03:38 PM	#18
Kyle15 Blu-ray Duke Top contributor Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Alabama 4K collection:151 Blu-ray collection:393 DVD collection:8 Trading Score:5	Criterion probably performed a lil bit of their trademark in-house sound-krunchifying.

09-27-2020, 03:40 PM	#19
Christian Muth Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2012 Location:Detroit, Michigan Trading Score:1	If the review on this site is to be trusted, they downmixed it to mono from the original Dolby Stereo. Chris

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