Le Cercle Rouge 4K UHD (1970)

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I’ve said it before that David M is no miracle worker, he’s just very good at his job. Amazing how being competent at something means you’re regarded as some sort of deity compared to the rest of the ****tards you work with, and that’s not snark aimed at anyone here, I’m thinking of my own employment situation.

The fact you might be working a job that isn't commensurate to your own intelligence? Well human intellect is highly complex, and extremely diverse.

More the problem with people is a lack of access, unawareness of, or disinterest in engaging with resources required for intellectual development. A lot of it can be simply boiled down to good old fashioned social forces, and the fear of alienation from one's peer groups.

It's why I don't like using the word's smart and dumb that often. It's, in my not so humble opinion, a complete fallacy.

Anyway. Didn't David M encode The Miracle Worker?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

The fact you might be working a job that isn't commensurate to your own intelligence? Well human intellect is highly complex, and extremely diverse.

More the problem with people is a lack of access, unawareness of, or disinterest in engaging with resources required for intellectual development. A lot of it can be simply boiled down to good old fashioned social forces, and the fear of alienation from one's peer groups.

It's why I don't like using the word's smart and dumb that often. It's, in my not so humble opinion, a complete fallacy.

Anyway. Didn't David M encode The Miracle Worker?

My point is that it doesn’t matter what job you have, there are always people who just don’t give a fook. It's not intelligence that’s the issue, it’s the lack of sheer common sense and any kind of personal responsibility with people these days and it drives me up the fookin wall.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

My point is that it doesn’t matter what job you have, there are always people who just don’t give a fook. It's not intelligence that’s the issue, it’s the lack of sheer common sense and any kind of personal responsibility with people these days and it drives me up the fookin wall.

I was recently poached to join a complex casework team, at work and we're dealing with cases other colleagues have been referring since March, as this casework was removed from them.

It's become abundantly clear in a short space of time, who the idiots that do f*** all are.

[Scottishguy]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

I was recently poached to join a complex casework team, at work and we're dealing with cases other colleagues have been referring since March, as this casework was removed from them.

It's become abundantly clear in a short space of time, who the idiots that do f*** all are.

Usually I find the janitors in most companies should in fact be the executives.

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by Sky_Captain

I was recently poached to join a complex casework team, at work and we're dealing with cases other colleagues have been referring since March, as this casework was removed from them.

It's become abundantly clear in a short space of time, who the idiots that do f*** all are.

Work in IT for a big bank. In a 10 member development team, only 3 people does most of the work. This is typical in most projects I have worked in the past 21 years of my IT career.

The poor 3 continue to be overworked, underpaid, under recognised and over scrutinised whilst the rest are relaxing with their mates and family. I can bet this is happening in other sectors as well.

Back to topic, looks like Amazon UK will never get this stock and its £27 in Amazon FR.

[Zack83]

Originally Posted by Scottishguy

...or disinterest in engaging with resources required for intellectual development.

"are uninterested"

[Sky_Captain]

Admin staff are the real heroes.

[wobelix]

So, down to the nitty-gritty of 'Le Cercle Rouge': has the film been tampered with too severely during restauration, especially in the colour scheme, or not?

I saw this ages ago in the movie house(s) my folks worked in, but of course, the mind and especially memory play all kind of tricks with us.

It truly is a wonderful film, though, and I never had it on blu ray, only on dvd, so I might as well, ... oh well...

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[grahams76]

Originally Posted by wobelix

So, down to the nitty-gritty of 'Le Cercle Rouge': has the film been tampered with too severely during restauration, especially in the colour scheme, or not?

The 4K disc has a completely natural colour palette and looks like a film of its era. Whether that is accurate or not, I can't say for sure.

I will say that the recent blu-rays that were completely saturated in cyan/blue looked completely unnatural for a 1970 film.

The review on this site is way too harsh on the colour palette in my opinion - however, the actual 4K transfer isn't that great anyway. Really low bitrates in some scenes and visible macro-blocking here and there (and I'm not that fussy and watched it on a a 43-inch TV). Still just about an OK transfer though... just.

[wobelix]

Originally Posted by grahams76

The 4K disc has a completely natural colour palette and looks like a film of its era. Whether that is accurate or not, I can't say for sure.

I will say that the recent blu-rays that were completely saturated in cyan/blue looked completely unnatural for a 1970 film.

The review on this site is way too harsh on the colour palette in my opinion - however, the actual 4K transfer isn't that great anyway. Really low bitrates in some scenes and visible macro-blocking here and there (and I'm not that fussy and watched it on a a 43-inch TV). Still just about an OK transfer though... just.

Thank you very much!

All I remember 'for sure' (ahum...) from long gone done days of sneeking into the movie houses run by my parents as a (very) young teenager and watch indiscriminantly ALL the movies that were shown, and with as much multiple viewings at that, is that Paris never looks 'glorious' or lush. It looked grim, Dickens' bleak, a bit gray (desaturated?).
But not cyan, no.

[JimDiGriz]

Originally Posted by wobelix

So, down to the nitty-gritty of 'Le Cercle Rouge': has the film been tampered with too severely during restauration, especially in the colour scheme, or not?

I saw this ages ago in the movie house(s) my folks worked in, but of course, the mind and especially memory play all kind of tricks with us.

It truly is a wonderful film, though, and I never had it on blu ray, only on dvd, so I might as well, ... oh well...

.

Buy it. You won't be disappointed. It looks a lot better than that freezer cold Blu-ray. I can't imagine what the DVD was like...

[wobelix]

[QUOTE=JimDiGriz;18973130 I can't imagine what the DVD was like...[/QUOTE]

Me neither, thank goodness, hihi.

[wobelix]

Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Buy it. You won't be disappointed. It looks a lot better than that freezer cold Blu-ray.

Ordered it right now.
Thanks a million for the heads up!

[Cholly]

Originally Posted by JimDiGriz

Buy it. You won't be disappointed. It looks a lot better than that freezer cold Blu-ray. I can't imagine what the DVD was like...

I agree with this sentiment. There may be a bit of noticeable macroblocking but I never found it to be a disaster. Still wasnt as annoying as Total Recall.
And the if its the Criterion dvd he had then it looked closer to the current 4k.

[Streetlight]

Is there any authoring facilities as good as David M. and Fidelity in Motion?

[Suchwas McTeague]

Originally Posted by Streetlight

Is there any authoring facilities as good as David M. and Fidelity in Motion?

Whoever does Vinegar Syndrome's stuff

[supersonic395]

Any news on whether there will be more stock of this - I've had an Amazon order for quite a while and can't find it in stock elsewhere

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by supersonic395

Any news on whether there will be more stock of this - I've had an Amazon order for quite a while and can't find it in stock elsewhere

Almost two years later, it only has a £50 Amazon listing, sold out on Zavvi and Zatu, though Tower Records has it for €35. BFI, HMV and WHSmith only list the Blu-ray, most retailers seem to carry the Criterion or French releases.

[CelestialAgent]

Are the extras encoded differently on the bonus disc compared to the earlier Optimum release?

[vector72]

HMV.com says back in stock soon, but I don't know how reliable that is.