Nintendo Switch 2 Main Thread - Launching 2025

[Kid Ryan]

Originally Posted by dyne

Are the Air Riders games good or is it just an internet meme thing? I'd never even heard them mentioned casually until this new title was announced and then it's all OMG AIR RIDERS!!!!!!!!! DEEP CUT!!!!!! SAKURAI!!!!!!!

And 45 minutes for another racing game not MKW is a pretty big swing.

I suspect it's both, Kirby series has a VERY strong fanbase.

At least half of my adult friends are obsessed with Kirby, and will buy anything related to him.

[heyadol]

Originally Posted by dyne

Are the Air Riders games good or is it just an internet meme thing? I'd never even heard them mentioned casually until this new title was announced and then it's all OMG AIR RIDERS!!!!!!!!! DEEP CUT!!!!!! SAKURAI!!!!!!!

And 45 minutes for another racing game not MKW is a pretty big swing.

I wonder if this will have more fleshed out online features so they need more time to cover it, or a going away party for Sakurai?

[dyne]

I watched a bit. Boosting out of turns looks fun but overall I just don't see it being for me. At least not a day 1 full price purchase. It's out November 20th. Odd having two 1st party racers in the first 6 months.

Getting worried about Prime not making 2025 at this point. ZA Legends and Pokemon are October.

[ChadFL]

Presentation looked OK and I imagine I'll get the game at some point. Seems weird seeing this game, which I believe Sakurai basically admitted was very similar to Mario Kart, coming out in the console launch year, right alongside Mario Kart World. I get the impression it's probably not something Nintendo on the whole wanted right now, but they probably gave in to Sakurai on this given it's clearly a passion project on his part and been decades since the last Kirby game.

Game looks very solid, but it's still disheartening to see TWO big Nintendo first party racing games, but still absolutely no sign of F-Zero ever making a comeback. Not like they'd even have to make it in house. The last F-Zero game was farmed out to the studio that now makes Yazuka and Monkey Ball games, and it was outstanding.

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by dyne

I watched a bit. Boosting out of turns looks fun but overall I just don't see it being for me. At least not a day 1 full price purchase. It's out November 20th. Odd having two 1st party racers in the first 6 months.

Getting worried about Prime not making 2025 at this point. ZA Legends and Pokemon are October.

Particularly two first party racing games that even Sakurai admitted are very similar. I'm very surprised they didn't sit on Air Riders for another year or two after Mario Kart World released. This game shouldn't cause any drop in sales of MK World (the absolute king of Nintendo games in terms of sales) at all, but MK World being released so recently very likely eats into Air Riders sales. The original Kirby Air Ride game on GameCube wasn't a great seller, moving only 1.3 million copies, not even in the top-25 best selling GC games.

[Diesel]

Originally Posted by dyne

I watched a bit. Boosting out of turns looks fun but overall I just don't see it being for me. At least not a day 1 full price purchase. It's out November 20th. Odd having two 1st party racers in the first 6 months.

Getting worried about Prime not making 2025 at this point. ZA Legends and Pokemon are October.

There have been rumblings of Prime having more development problems but not from anybody particularly noteworthy. But it wouldn’t be surprising to find out that is true.

At this point early December is all they have left unless they near-shadow drop it in September which seems highly unlikely.

[dyne]

Originally Posted by Diesel

There have been rumblings of Prime having more development problems but not from anybody particularly noteworthy. But it wouldn’t be surprising to find out that is true.

At this point early December is all they have left unless they near-shadow drop it in September which seems highly unlikely.

It's just weird. The listing on their store front still says 2025. They would have already known at the Treehouse Event if Metroid was in enough trouble to not launch this year. The final 4-6 months is polish time for development.

[Kid Ryan]

Originally Posted by Diesel

There have been rumblings of Prime having more development problems but not from anybody particularly noteworthy. But it wouldn’t be surprising to find out that is true.

At this point early December is all they have left unless they near-shadow drop it in September which seems highly unlikely.

Originally Posted by dyne

It's just weird. The listing on their store front still says 2025. They would have already known at the Treehouse Event if Metroid was in enough trouble to not launch this year. The final 4-6 months is polish time for development.

I could see a December release for Prime, not the first time a Nintendo game has dropped then.

We should know more for sure next month, assuming Nintendo doesn't skip their usual September direct again.

[AmishParadise]

An FYI for those not aware. I purchased the below USB hub the other day on the cheap. My plan was to use it to charge a couple wireless Nintendo Switch™ 2 Pro Controllers. Unfortunately the controllers require more power than is supported by the hub, even when powering the hub via a power adapter versus the dock or Switch 2 itself.


(A review on the PowerA™ website states that the USB hub only supports wired controllers for the Nintendo Switch.)

That being said, I own 4 N64 controllers which I use with the Switch 2, a couple Nintendo 64™ controllers I picked up recently in addition to a couple Saffun controllers. I've had the Saffun controllers for some time now. I use them with my N64 when gaming in the home theater. In any event, the USB hub does support all 4 controllers including the dongles. No issues charging or pairing the controllers when the USB hub is connected to the dock.

[heyadol]

Nice to see Indiana Jones confirmed for Switch 2 in 2026, probably means Doom: The Dark Ages is next. Both use idTech, both had Nvidia partnerships, and the previous two Doom games were on Switch.

https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/pr...rcle-switch-2/

Nintendo Switch 2â„¢ Reveal - Indiana Jones and the Great Circle - YouTube

[dyne]

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...ntasy-14-port/

Wario 64's quote

Final Fantasy producer Naoki ‘Yoshi-P’ Yoshida says Square Enix has had ‘positive discussions” with Nintendo over a potential Switch 2 port of MMO Final Fantasy 14 (and hints FF16 could eventually come to Switch 2)

[Diesel]

Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter will be digital only on Switch 2, but the Switch 1 version can be upgraded for $1.

[heyadol]

Originally Posted by Diesel

Trails in the Sky 1st Chapter will be digital only on Switch 2, but the Switch 1 version can be upgraded for $1.

Does that mean inserting the Switch game card will get you a Switch 2 digital copy for a dollar? Will you need to keep the last-gen game inserted (similar to upgrading PS4 physical to PS5 digital)?

[dyne]

Originally Posted by heyadol

Does that mean inserting the Switch game card will get you a Switch 2 digital copy for a dollar? Will you need to keep the last-gen game inserted (similar to upgrading PS4 physical to PS5 digital)?

Yes. Yes.

[Maddox121]

Kirby games are meant primarily for kids and casual players. They aren't meant to be hardcore.

[Talal86]

Originally Posted by dyne

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/...ntasy-14-port/

Wario 64's quote

would be cool if they managed a good port, but it will probably look/perform like shit

[Amiibro121]

Originally Posted by Maddox121

Kirby games are meant primarily for kids and casual players. They aren't meant to be hardcore.

The cool thing that makes kirby air riders stand out from a majority of kirby games is that theres a lot of small depth to it like the smash bros series that really adds up to a very satisfying gameplay loop where no match plays out the same that hardcore players can really get behind. Im super excited to see air ride return and get all these new auditions and tweaks.

[dyne]

https://www.nintendolife.com/news/20...tch-2-dev-kits

We're almost three months on from the Nintendo Switch 2's release, and while we have plenty of third-party games to come on the newer hybrid console, many developers say that they're still having issues getting hold of dev kits.

This comes from the folks at Digital Foundry in response to a question from a listener during this week's DF Direct (timestamped, 8:20). Part of the question focuses on Switch 2 kits, particularly pointing out Ninja Gaiden: Ragebound, which runs at 30fps on the newer console (though it doesn't have a specific Switch 2 version either): "Do you think Nintendo are regretting not sharing the dev kits wider, sooner?"
Host John Linneman, who was at Gamescom 2025, spoke to multiple developers on the show floor where "so many of them said the same thing," and that "It's really difficult right now" to even get hold of a dev kit.

It sounds like the enthusiasm is there — "They would love to do Switch 2 versions. They can’t get the hardware." — but the ability to get the hardware teams need to make Switch 2 games is tough. Some were apparently told "they should just ship it on Switch 1 and rely on backwards compatibility."

Co-host Oliver Mackenzie also weighed in, saying "I don't really understand the strategy" Nintendo is implementing in handing out dev kits.

The team reports "hearing things through the grapevine and talking to people" on some "weird exclusions" and "weird inclusions" , highlighting Chillin' by the Fire as one of the latter games: "...Some big developers, on the other hand, who developed AAA stuff aren’t necessarily in the pipeline there for kits.”

[BillieCassin]

Originally Posted by Talal86

would be cool if they managed a good port, but it will probably look/perform like shit

It's going to be the same for any major third party game. And the thing is, I expect unless something really changes during this holiday season, we are going to see third party developers quietly start to pack away from the system (at least in terms of AAA games).

While yes, the Switch 2 sold a bunch of consoles out of the gate, overall demand is very soft. Pretty much everyone who wanted one got one on launch day - preorders were meaningless, you could walk in to just about any major retailer on launch day (and even the following day) and find one if you wanted one.

The reddit-kidz were squealing with delight that "they" beat the scalpers - practically squirting all over themselves that people who did buy to resell couldn't sell them over cost. They also didn't realize that the same thing they were cheering was just showing how little demand there really is for the system. Even now, new shipments are sitting in stores for days at a time (my local Walmart had them out for at least five days earlier in the month before they all finally sold).

I'm sure it will still sell decently this holiday season, but then again - I just don't know how many parents out there are going to be able to justify dumping $500 on a new system for each of their kids that even by then are really going to have a very small handful of additional first-party games to play exclusively on it. I think we will find this is the real reason Nintendo jacked up the price of the first system - to make the Switch 2 seem like a better deal.

Unless something drastic happens and suddenly demand shoots through the roof, I have a feeling with third party we are in for a Wii U situation where things just quietly get cancelled and announcements just dry up. At the very least, they aren't going to be spending tons of money to optimize their multi-platform titles for the lesser hardware of the Switch 2 - the ports will just get lazier and lazier as cash grabs.

[dyne]

Via Wario64

[Nintendo Corporate]

WARPSTAR Inc., a company previously created by Nintendo and HAL Laboratory to manage the Kirby IP, will be renamed to Nintendo Stars Inc.

The company will manage licensing of Nintendo IP used in movies for merch, live events, etc.

This company is not intended to be involved in the actual production of movies.

Nintendo says it will be responsible for "ancillary-use business", defined as "taking Nintendo characters and worlds from films to apply and expand in other forms, including live events and [merch]".