Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[returnofthemack]

Anyone else having problems with scratched discs in the non-steelbook version? I always thought people were overreacting a bit with this type of packaging but sure enough 2 of the 4 UHD discs in my set have scratches and UHD discs and any type of scratches don’t mix well. All of my discs from the Alien set and Friday the 13th sets are flawless and have seen heavy use so I don’t know what happened here to make this different. Thinking about doing an exchange, the two discs that had scratches played but I’m now worried that they could get worse over time. I wonder if some kind of debris got in the sleeves and caused this.

[Hardback247]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

I'm no tech expert but the Contrast Enhancer setting supposedly works differently on SDR and HDR on some Samsungs. I've read elsewhere and heard back from Samsung themselves that Contrast Enhancer should be turned on when watching HDR content.

Some brighter HDR films do lose detail for me when I push it to high, which is why low is my default setting, but dimmer ones definitely benefit from the high setting with my setup (which I freely admit is non-calibrated and probably not ideal).

I was on a chat with Samsung support just now, and they said:

"While viewing Movies, you need to disable/off contrast enhancer feature. Contrast Enhancer will reduce the movie effect in dark room."

[imsounoriginal]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I was on a chat with Samsung support just now, and they said:

"While viewing Movies, you need to disable/off contrast enhancer feature. Contrast Enhancer will reduce the movie effect in dark room."

They're right, you should only use it if you're watching in daytime and there's too much ambient light making the screen look dark.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by JebusJM

Hey guys, can someone please confirm if this set is region free? Or at least Region B? Thanks in advance.

All UHDs are region free by default. The included Blu-rays are the existing discs which also have no region restrictions.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I was on a chat with Samsung support just now, and they said:

"While viewing Movies, you need to disable/off contrast enhancer feature. Contrast Enhancer will reduce the movie effect in dark room."

Was this in reference to the MU8000? Were they clear that they were referring to recommended settings while watching HDR rather than SDR? I emailed the company support rather than do the chat and this is the response I received:

I have checked the available resources and I see that, it is a normal operation that HDR content is dim when you enable the HDR on the TV. You can turn the Contract Enhancer to high or low to enhance the picture quality. It is just a normal operation, it is needed to calibrate your TV.

Read the same recommendation on another AV forum as well. I have most of my settings as recommended by professional sites and watch in a dark room at night with no or minimal lights on but the set is not professionally calibrated. Not gonna be dropping the money for that so I'll adjust Contrast Enhancer film to film as needed. I've made my peace with the slight drop in detail I'm probably losing. And it really is slight in most cases; I've compared the same image with the Contrast Enhancer set to Off, Low and High and I only find myself noticing detail drops on some brighter HDR discs set to High (and thus I keep those discs set at Low). The extreme dimness OTOH makes films unwatchable for me when Contrast Enhancer is turned off regardless of detail increase.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by s_har

Muted audio on JW? It is Skywalker Sound so it is possible they used their 'Disney preset' by accident?

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's excellent, I can imagine them having a great big Mickey face on one of the buttons

Actually I've noticed that while Skywalker does the sound there's now a "Final Mix by Disney Studios" credit after that.

[TheZoof]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

I'm no tech expert but the Contrast Enhancer setting supposedly works differently on SDR and HDR on some Samsungs. I've read elsewhere and heard back from Samsung themselves that Contrast Enhancer should be turned on when watching HDR content.

Some brighter HDR films do lose detail for me when I push it to high, which is why low is my default setting, but dimmer ones definitely benefit from the high setting with my setup (which I freely admit is non-calibrated and probably not ideal).

Interesting. I would have expected all of this to be turned off for a more natural picture. I also guess that HDR really isn't that natural so it is a trade off.

I played around with it a bit last night and I did like what I saw from turning it to 'low'.

[cleeve]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

Was this in reference to the MU8000? Were they clear that they were referring to recommended settings while watching HDR rather than SDR? I emailed the company support rather than do the chat and this is the response I received:



Read the same recommendation on another AV forum as well. I have most of my settings as recommended by professional sites and watch in a dark room at night with no or minimal lights on but the set is not professionally calibrated. Not gonna be dropping the money for that so I'll adjust Contrast Enhancer film to film as needed. I've made my peace with the slight drop in detail I'm probably losing. And it really is slight in most cases; I've compared the same image with the Contrast Enhancer set to Off, Low and High and I only find myself noticing detail drops on some brighter HDR discs set to High (and thus I keep those discs set at Low). The extreme dimness OTOH makes films unwatchable for me when Contrast Enhancer is turned off regardless of detail increase.

Even in the response that you received, it's pretty clear IMO that they're saying that Contrast Enhancer OFF is the correct setting, but that you can turn it on if you find the picture to be too dark.

You aren't getting an accurate picture and you're losing detail with contrast enhancements enabled. But really, in the end, who cares? Choose the settings that look best to you. That's all that really matters.

[TheZoof]

Originally Posted by Hardback247

I was on a chat with Samsung support just now, and they said:

"While viewing Movies, you need to disable/off contrast enhancer feature. Contrast Enhancer will reduce the movie effect in dark room."

This makes sense. When I turned mine to low last night though I was able to see more detail in shadows that I couldn't see otherwise.

I have not professionally calibrated my set yet though so that might have something to do with it.

[Cherokee Jack]

Originally Posted by cleeve

Even in the response that you received, it's pretty clear IMO that they're saying that Contrast Enhancer OFF is the correct setting, but that you can turn it on if you find the picture to be too dark.

You aren't getting an accurate picture and you're losing detail with contrast enhancements enabled. But really, in the end, who cares? Choose the settings that look best to you. That's all that really matters.

The support person's English was not great but I can't imagine that 'it is a normal operation that HDR content is dim when you enable the HDR on the TV' means that it shouldn't be adjusted, especially when they followed that by saying that adjusting the Contrast Enhancer setting is 'needed' to calibrate the TV. HDR isn't supposed to look dim, right? I'm really at a loss with all this to be honest.

But yeah, at this point I'm just going with what looks best for me. I find my own experience with the JP UHD tracking with what better informed posters with better and calibrated sets are saying when it comes to grain, color, occasionally softness, etc so I'm confident that my settings aren't butchering the material.

[barty22]

Originally Posted by DJR662

Got my UK boxset in today (along with Jurassic World and The Matrix), time to watch the JP movies back to back again.

Would you be so kind as to post a few pictures of the JP 4k box with the cases inside the box? Much appreciated, thanks.

[weberrygt]

I quickly checked my discs... I do not notice any scratches. These come out much easier than other book/sleeve releases (like the Indiana Jones collection) where you had to pry and pray when removing the discs from the sleeves. These seem to glide with little to no friction, which should mean low chances for scratches. I will look closer though.

[HeavyHitter]

I watched the first movie on my JVC last night. Honestly, it looked better than I expected. Now, that's not to say it was a stellar release because it wasn't. However, it does look notably more natural and filmlike compared to the BD. There is some slight grain reduction as noted and small amounts of EE in several spots, but neither artifact are much of a big issue. The image does look a little more muted and the BD is brighter on my set-up, but I didn't find the UHD BD looking too dark. With the BD looking brighter, it looked less natural also if that makes sense. The BD seems over-bright. The highlights on the BD are so blownout in comparison to the UHD BD. There were a few scenes that looked like Die Hard territory by comparison. Colors look more balanced on the UHD BD especially with skintones and I found shadow detail pretty decent. Detail is also a bit better on the UHD in general. Definitely worth the upgrade.

[vincentric]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's excellent, I can imagine them having a great big Mickey face on one of the buttons

I think Disney have had Groot working on their audio mixes the last couple of years.

[Show spoiler]I'll get my coat

[Doff Hat]

So to catch up with this JP1 release:

What's the most accurate or max image framing there has been on home video now - is it the laserdisc? I heard the 3D Blu-ray was close, but due to the process of post 3D converting, some cropping was necessary.

Was the UHD from a new 4K scan or was it the pre-DNR (grain managed) 4K source used for the 3D BD?

Which is closest to the original colour timing? Is that the laserdisc? From what I'm reading here, the 3D BD is closer to the warmth but used orange and teal tricks to cheat, and the UHD has (some of) the horrible pink problems of the 2011 BD. I didn't much like that 2011 BD - the later opening shot of blue water, blue helicopter, and fly up/over island all had a faded and off-looking colour to me. It is good to note though, that in the 2011 BD comparison, Geoff D mentions the green grass is not neon looking now in the UHD.

From what I'm reading here, those who like the UHD BD, are finding it filmic mostly because of the modest HDR, enough uptick in detail, and at least has more grain than the 3D BD?

[Geoff D]

Think of the UHD's colour as being similar to the 2011 colour scheme but not as 'faded' and with more vitality and nuance. No, it's not the tealy/mud brown look of the 3D BD but I'd trust 2D caps of that as far as I could throw them, it's designed to be viewed with the tint of the 3D glasses in place and so people should never be taking those 2D left eye images as gospel. I also think that the HDR to SDR conversion in the capping software is adding a slight lilac tint to the UHD images so that's muddying the waters further.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That's excellent, I can imagine them having a great big Mickey face on one of the buttons

I thought it was a Goofy button, as their audio mixes are goofy, to say the least.

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by barty22

Would you be so kind as to post a few pictures of the JP 4k box with the cases inside the box? Much appreciated, thanks.

And one more of the whole JP family for good measure:

[infiniteCR]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

Unfortunately, I can see this becoming a trend when it comes to newer 4K remasters of catalog titles. It seems like some of the most vocal UHD supporters don't want "tints" or warm/cool pushes on these discs (even if they were there originally and have a good reason for being there) and want a more "natural" image. Same applies to Blu-ray too, there are actually people that are happy when companies dial out stylish lighting caused by color gels because it's "unnatural" and takes them out of the film.

More and more companies seem to be caving in to please the "natural" crowd that wants completely neutral color timing on everything. That's what I like about Warner's recent mentality so much, they actually use reference prints when possible and consult with the filmmakers. They aren't budging despite the complaints from a vocal minority like with The Matrix.

While a lot of these new remasters look good even with the more neutral color palletes, it's just disappointing seeing them knowing how beautiful the original prints looked. It's boring when everything looks the same and films have been robbed of their unique identity. Luckily, there are a lot of revival theaters around that still show prints so if I want to see something like Saving Private Ryan in its full bleach-bypassed glory with a blue push then I can. For home viewing, I'll have to settle for a noticeably different but still technically great presentation.

I agree. It will be interesting to see if they ever revisit the Oceans series (the male one lol).

[ndtechie05]

Can anyone comment on the VUDU 4K PQ?