What do you think about 3D? Do you like it? Hate it? Think it's better than 4K?

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Sponge-worthy

Eventually there will be some sort of 3D standard (which doesn't require glasses for one thing) that will settle in.

The technology for autostereoscopy is already available... just very expensive. So expensive, in fact, that there are no commercial autostereoscopic sets available in the West. But Nintendo has the 3DS. Same idea there, TVs would just require more viewing angles, and that, of course, will only make them more complicated and expensive to produce.

It is standardized, too. BD has a standard for 3D encoding on disc, HDMI has a standard for transmission between set top and screen, and apparently even cable has a standard for transmission to cable boxes (although I must admit that I'm unfamiliar with 3D TV over cable/satellite/etc.). The only thing that's not universal is the TV's hardware itself, but that's been true for ages. It used to just be CRTs, but now we have CRTs, LCDs, OLEDs, plasma, rear projection, front projectors with theater screens... it makes sense that there would be more than one way of doing 3D.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Afrobean

The technology for autostereoscopy is already available... just very expensive. So expensive, in fact, that there are no commercial autostereoscopic sets available in the West. But Nintendo has the 3DS. Same idea there, TVs would just require more viewing angles, and that, of course, will only make them more complicated and expensive to produce.

It is standardized, too. BD has a standard for 3D encoding on disc, HDMI has a standard for transmission between set top and screen, and apparently even cable has a standard for transmission to cable boxes (although I must admit that I'm unfamiliar with 3D TV over cable/satellite/etc.). The only thing that's not universal is the TV's hardware itself, but that's been true for ages. It used to just be CRTs, but now we have CRTs, LCDs, OLEDs, plasma, rear projection, front projectors with theater screens... it makes sense that there would be more than one way of doing 3D.

There are many reasons why that "glasses free 3D" will never work for large displays in my opinion. Even when looking at the 3DS you can see why it won't work for a 50" TV screen. With the 3DS you have to adjust the screen via a switch in order to have the effect work for your specific viewing angle AND distance. If the position of your eyes is shifted in ANY dimension, that switch must be adjusted again.

There will never be a 3D TV that will accomodate for a living room setup where a 12' wide seating area is entirely calibrated perfectly... especially given the fact that every human has a different length of torso, and therefore adjustments will constantly have to be made for each individual on each viewing session. It will take longer to make the TV work for everyone than it will to watch the entertainment in question.

3D WITH GLASSES is the only way that 3D will work in my opinion. It is the only way to guarantee that every potential angle is 100% perfectly in sync with the image at all times... even when the viewer is IN MOTION!

[koover]

Originally Posted by pixler

Are 3D TV's and Blu-Rays a fad or are they here to stay? I have no interest in buying 3D TV's or Blu-Rays, so I hope it doesn't take over

Come on man, get serious.

[happyman]

Z = Z2 + C
"The Ghost In The Machine",
don't fear the future,the future does'nt fear you.

[DimeMecka]

I am not buying into it either. Gives me a headache,strains my eyes,definetley cant stand to were glasses and takes away the picture clarity.

[pixler]

Originally Posted by 3DinAK

So why are you on this website again?I only ask cause it's named blu-ray.com .

I love and enjoy buying Blu-Rays, just not 3D Blu-Rays

[3DinAK]

Originally Posted by pixler

I love and enjoy buying Blu-Rays, just not 3D Blu-Rays

The way you worded it sounds like you don't like 3D TV's and don't like blu rays.
Suggestion though. There's a topic about this already. I think it's called "3D smackdown".
And to your question, 3D is here to stay.

[Jayelae]

I am on the fence about 3D. Right now, I am using a Panny AE4000U projector with a 100" screen and a Panny BD-80 blu-ray player. This 100" screen size is a vital part of my viewing pleasure for, in my case, I feel that it is only with this size of screen that the audio aspect is really balanced with video aspect. With the home theater surround audio set-ups nowadays, audio can be so big and encompassing that this feels too "big" even for a 60" screen -- that if you close your eyes and just listen to the audio, you would think that the viewing screen will also be as big as what the sound gives out. But then you open your eyes and see a small screen or a screen that seems small because the sound is so big.

Thus, I will maybe jump on the 3D wagon when a really good 3D projector system comes out but I will not be a first generation user. But even if this should come about, I still have 3 misgivings:

a) Since I often have up to 8 guests come over to watch blu-ray dvds, that means that I will have to invest in so many 3D glasses. I can only hope that the cost of said glasses will eventually be very reasonable.

b) Just about all the legacy movies were not shot for 3D so, moving forward, I can only really take full advantage of the 3D capability with movies made for 3D; legacy movies may be 3Dized but I feel that the 3D experience will not be the same.

c) I watch a lot of classical concert blu-rays such as symphonies and concertos where 3D will not really be needed. Ballet and opera ought to be wonderful in 3D but I do not know when a live ballet or opera can or will be shot in 3D.

[happyman]

Who doesn't want to pickup the snow dome in Citizen Cain,who doesn't want to Sing in the Rain,who doesn't want to be a Jet,who doesn't want to drive through San Fransisco at high speed,who doesn't want to kiss Vito on both his cotton ball cheeks,who doesn't want to water the Garden in space, who doesn't want to smell napalm in the morning,who doesn't want to dismember Madonna ?(Madonna auditioned for the role of the crate in Boxing Helena,but she was considered to wooden for the part)

[dib]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

There are many reasons why that "glasses free 3D" will never work for large displays in my opinion. Even when looking at the 3DS you can see why it won't work for a 50" TV screen. With the 3DS you have to adjust the screen via a switch in order to have the effect work for your specific viewing angle AND distance. If the position of your eyes is shifted in ANY dimension, that switch must be adjusted again.

There will never be a 3D TV that will accomodate for a living room setup where a 12' wide seating area is entirely calibrated perfectly... especially given the fact that every human has a different length of torso, and therefore adjustments will constantly have to be made for each individual on each viewing session. It will take longer to make the TV work for everyone than it will to watch the entertainment in question.

3D WITH GLASSES is the only way that 3D will work in my opinion. It is the only way to guarantee that every potential angle is 100% perfectly in sync with the image at all times... even when the viewer is IN MOTION!

Apparently Toshiba thinks you're wrong: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Gla...lay,12529.html They have more glasses free 3D screens coming out soon.

[ZIPPO]

I don't know now, with most new releases offering 3D( plus the endorsement from George Lucas ), it might stick around for awhile.

[tilallr1]

I was on the fence on whether 3D was sticking around, but I think gaming tipped the scale. Now the only thing remaining to make it a winner is making it completely glasses free at all viewing angles. I think it will happen within the next 5-10 years and be affordable too. If it doesn't, well then I think 3D will never succeed.

Remember, the movie industry wants to be able to sell you all their catalog titles again in 3D $$$$. Plus, TV makers want to sell you new TV's as well $$$$. Honestly its going to be like HD all over again.

The only good news is blu-ray players that are presently 3D capability and 3D blu-rays will not need upgrading. This technology is standardized and solid. So if you already own the disc's and player, you are set. I would just wait out a couple of years for them to perfect the display technology, which they will. There is too much money for them to make, not too.

[Coach81]

I hope it is here to stay... I'm loving it!

[etype55]

Originally Posted by dib

Apparently Toshiba thinks you're wrong: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Gla...lay,12529.html They have more glasses free 3D screens coming out soon.

Look a little deeper. Industry insiders predict glassless 3D won't be ready for the masses for another 8-10 at least. If people want to wait that long before enjoying 3D, go for it.

[HD Goofnut]

To answer the OP's question: Yes, home 3D in its present form is a fad. The percentage of U.S. homes actually utilizing the present 3D model will not be more than 5-10% in the next 5 years.

[maygit]

Originally Posted by dib

Apparently Toshiba thinks you're wrong: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Gla...lay,12529.html They have more glasses free 3D screens coming out soon.

Apparently I think you're wrong. If you notice, the only things that glasses free 3D displays work on are single person electronics: cell phones, laptops, and handheld gaming systems. Yes, i did notice that it stated that the 3D effect can be seen from 9 angles, but you also have to be at the proper distance from the display. Too close or too far away and you lose it. Too back up Petra, it is just too unrealistic at this point for GF3D to work in the home. Every seat would have to be positioned exact for GF3D in which no one will do. GF3D would maybe only work in an extremely dedicated home theater room, which are too rare to matter. At this point, a GF3D set that has no angle/distant issues is too far in the future, if at all possible, and will take too long to come down in price for the average consumer to purchase. Yes 3D is here to stay, but if you want 3D right now, suck it up and wear the glasses until advancements happen in the future. Personally, i think the only GF3D displays that will work will have to be a holographic one.

Oh, and was the question about bluray a joke? Of course bluray is here to stay. It's the best picture quality one can obtain for their movies and the only true way (besides PC) to utilize the full 1080p picture quality of Full HD sets. Online streaming is becoming more popular, but not everyone has fast enough internet to support HD streaming and most people like to have a physical copy of the items they purchase.

[papaholmz]

Originally Posted by pixler

Are 3D TV's and Blu-Rays a fad

Doubtful.

Originally Posted by pixler

or are they here to stay

Most likely.

Originally Posted by pixler

I have no interest in buying 3D TV's or Blu-Rays

To each his/her own.

Originally Posted by pixler

so I hope it doesn't take over

I don't really see how any logical thought process could conclude that 3D would be able to "take over." I think eventually there will be the option on every TV and BD player to do either 3D or 2D. And consumer choice is rarely a bad thing.

-papaholmz

[ketz]

I at first didn't think I'd bother watching 3D television mainly because of having to wear glasses and the expense for something I can do without, but I watched it for the first time yesterday and my mind has been changed there is a huge improvement, I wouldn't mind if it did "take over" at least then the astronomical price would fall.

[Sonny]

I too think 3D will be added to all TV's, players & AVR's. It will become just a "standard" thing companies do. I don't have any interest in 3D but down the road when a new tv is needed I'll have no choice, not that its a bad thing, because all tvs will have a setting just like aspect ratio where you can flip between 2D & 3D. It's gunna take one hell of a good display for me to buy it, I hope it OLED...

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by dib

Apparently Toshiba thinks you're wrong: http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Gla...lay,12529.html They have more glasses free 3D screens coming out soon.

And the quality is absolute crap. I checked out their "best" demos at CES earlier this year and they should be embarrassed. The PQ was not clear, the edges of the screen were blurry (and not in 3D) and the slightest movement to the left or right caused a change in the 3D quality.