(BOOK SPOILERS) Game of Thrones Series Discussion for Book Readers

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by oscarmerkx

http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/09/ga...hrones-future/

'Quipped Benioff’s fellow showrunner Dan Weiss: “Time for negative population growth.”'

Ahh. So that's why they're killing off all the Starks....

[Edword]

Originally Posted by jayembee

'Quipped Benioff’s fellow showrunner Dan Weiss: “Time for negative population growth.”'

Ahh. So that's why they're killing off all the Starks....

Not sure if you're serious...

[Rambaldi47]

Originally Posted by quikblend

i basically see the frey's being killed off during the next season and NO ONE knows why and then the big reveal at the finale is her killing one of them. it makes sense to show the sweet revenge is finally setting in. it seems to be the theme for next season is that everyone gets what is finally coming to them.

I would've loved for the final scene to be the resurrection, but I think this would actually be more effective. The mystery of who's killing Freys, the death of Catlyn has time to sink in and then BOOM! The reveal of LS. It makes sense to save it, I guess, because they're going to catch up to the books before long. I just can't wait to see LS! It's driving me nuts not to be able to talk about it with my Unsullied friends!!

[MrHT]

Interesting article....

http://social.entertainment.msn.com/...re-series-ends

[Bored Gaymer]

Book 6 is supposed to come out late this year/early next year, with book 7 following one year after that.

The plan for the show (last I heard):

Season 4 - Book 3 & 4
Season 5 - Book 4 & 5
Season 6 - Book 6
Season 7 - Book 6 & 7
Season 8 - Book 7

Season 6 would start in 2016, so if book 6 comes out this year or early next year, there shouldn't be a problem.

[Gaius Marius]

Hopefully books 6 and 7 will be finished before the series catches up!

[Gaius Marius]

Originally Posted by jayembee

'Quipped Benioff’s fellow showrunner Dan Weiss: “Time for negative population growth.”'

Ahh. So that's why they're killing off all the Starks....

I just think that means no using boring characters/character arcs for the series (ie: Birenne's stuff from AFFC).

[chris_sc77]

Originally Posted by Bored Gaymer

Book 6 is supposed to come out late this year/early next year, with book 7 following one year after that.

The plan for the show (last I heard):

Season 4 - Book 3 & 4
Season 5 - Book 4 & 5
Season 6 - Book 6
Season 7 - Book 6 & 7
Season 8 - Book 7

Season 6 would start in 2016, so if book 6 comes out this year or early next year, there shouldn't be a problem.

I think the earliest book six will be out is next year and the earliest book seven will be out is 2017

[R3P0]

I cant see Book 7 being out before 2016 honestly lol As of right now from what I understand the rest of book 3 parts of 4 is season 4, Season 5 will be Book 4/5 Season 6 will be Book 5/6 Season 7 Probably the rest of 6 and Season 8/9 will probably be book 7

Season 4 2014
Season 5 2015
Season 6 2016
Season 7 2017
Season 8 2018

[danman227460]

It was said that the show might even end before the final book is released. Since GRRM is tied with the show, the show runners already know how the story will end. They will just finish up the show like how GRRM wants it and let him fill in the rest with the book.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by Bored Gaymer

Book 6 is supposed to come out late this year/early next year, with book 7 following one year after that.

Where was that confirmed.

Martin himself has said multiple times that he doesn't give dates and that the books will be "done when they are done".

Actually, in the last interview I read he was even saying that his plan was for seven books, but that he isn't ruling out an eighth book and that the story will go where it wants to go. I found that a bit shocking actually. Although, not completely as I was wondering how he would finish this all in two books.

Personally, I think the shows will overtake the novels.

Martin, in his last interview aslo doesn't seem to be dealing with the logistics of television very well. He said that if the show does overtake the books, then he would have to have some interesting discussions with the producers - perhaps doing a prequel show to wait. Of course, the producers were saying television doesn't really work like that. You can't just stop a show for years. Actors contracts would have to be renogotiatied (that alone is a logistical nightmare) - sets, etc, would have to be boarded up which costs money.

So, basically, if Martin can't finish his books in a timely manner, he may doom GoT from ever being a complete television series.

[Blu-Benny]

If the show has to end before the final book is released, I’ll be ok w/that as long as the final season is taken straight from Martin’s head!!!

As long as he’s involved and the show follows his vision, I’ll be happy.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by Bored Gaymer

Book 6 is supposed to come out late this year/early next year, with book 7 following one year after that.

The plan for the show (last I heard):

Season 4 - Book 3 & 4
Season 5 - Book 4 & 5
Season 6 - Book 6
Season 7 - Book 6 & 7
Season 8 - Book 7

Season 6 would start in 2016, so if book 6 comes out this year or early next year, there shouldn't be a problem.

The creators announced a few weeks back that they intend for it to be 7 seasons.

[MrHT]

This part of the article struck me..."they could go on hiatus for a year or two (which would risk losing viewers and a large chunk of the cast)."

MAD MEN and THE SOPRANOS both had a 1 year hiatus due to salary disputes, but it didn't affect the show in any way. It's just that fans had to wait in agony for an extra year. So, I'm not sure why a hiatus for GOT would be such a big problem.

[Tony208]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Personally, I think the shows will overtake the novels.

imo it already has, the books were big but, not this big, and people are already proclaiming GoThrones as the best TV show ever

I think that it is a little premature but, if the rest of the series is just as good, then you can make a case for it.

[Gaius Marius]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Where was that confirmed.

Martin himself has said multiple times that he doesn't give dates and that the books will be "done when they are done".

Actually, in the last interview I read he was even saying that his plan was for seven books, but that he isn't ruling out an eighth book and that the story will go where it wants to go. I found that a bit shocking actually. Although, not completely as I was wondering how he would finish this all in two books.

Personally, I think the shows will overtake the novels.

Martin, in his last interview aslo doesn't seem to be dealing with the logistics of television very well. He said that if the show does overtake the books, then he would have to have some interesting discussions with the producers - perhaps doing a prequel show to wait. Of course, the producers were saying television doesn't really work like that. You can't just stop a show for years. Actors contracts would have to be renogotiatied (that alone is a logistical nightmare) - sets, etc, would have to be boarded up which costs money.

So, basically, if Martin can't finish his books in a timely manner, he may doom GoT from ever being a complete television series.

That would be a dire situation I keep hoping that the threat that the show could overtake the books is lighting a fire under GRRM to finish the books before then! Not to say that I want him to rush - just the opposite actually. I want him to take his time with the novels, but just don't drag them out unnecessarily (I love the books and the story, I just think there is a fine balance between rushing them and dragging them out the point of tedium).

[roguescribner]

Originally Posted by CYMBOL

Personally, I think the shows will overtake the novels.

Originally Posted by Tony208

imo it already has, the books were big but, not this big, and people are already proclaiming GoThrones as the best TV show ever

I think that it is a little premature but, if the rest of the series is just as good, then you can make a case for it.

Ha ha. He was referring to the timeline of the series overtaking the books before they're finished, not their popularity.

[CYMBOL]

Originally Posted by roguescribner

Ha ha. He was referring to the timeline of the series overtaking the books before they're finished, not their popularity.

Yeah.

Sorry if I was confusing. Was referring to timeline, not popularity, quality, etc.

[jayembee]

Originally Posted by Edword

Not sure if you're serious...

Seriously?

[iSeeinBlu]

HBO knew that this could potentially be an issue when they picked up this series. They will have to live with the possible consequences now. The only issue I have with them possibly taking a year off from production, is that the younger actors/actresses will not look the part anymore. I read somewhere the other day that Martin would not be pleased if they moved ahead to film the sixth or seventh season (presumably book 6) before he finished writing the book. That makes sense considering this is his vision after all. I know that he has told the creators of the show how he potentially sees the series ending, but he has not told them everything to my knowledge.

This could really end up being a big problem. As a huge fan of the show, I hope that this works itself out one way or another.