Scream 5 (January 14, 2022)

[DraculaHasRisen]

As if Scream 4 wasn't terrible enough, Scream 5 is just an all out parody of itself. They should just start actually calling them Stab.

**SPOILERS**


Even from seeing the trailer I had an idea that Jack Quaid was going to be at least one of the killers. Out of all the young cast, he's currently the most up-and-coming. And yet again we have another killer who's some 4-foot tall, 80 lbs. soaking wet chick as the killer?? Really? I think, like Halloween Kills, Scream 5 really just shows us how dead in the water these franchises are. Neve was about as useless as JLC in 'Kills', with a maximum of what, 5 minutes of relevancy and screen time? Clearly a phoned in performance for a quick paycheck. It really just seems these legacy characters are inserted in to these "requels" to draw the core fans to see it because the filmmakers aren't confident enough in their own movie without, and actually starting anew. It was at Dewey's death I gave up on the movie because I couldn't believe they reduced him to some drunk just so he could be the "weak link" out of he, Gale, and Sidney. They're a parody of themselves at this point because there's really nothing personal about what's happening. It's more so about the Stab movies within. You could have left Sid, Gale and Dewey out of this entirely and it still would have worked on it's own, and quite frankly, would have been a less crowded cast and maybe could have taken the time to do a better job of making me like the newer cast. But no; gotta give fan service to the nerds who refuse to realize it's not 1996 and won't just throw in a copy of the original and be happy about it. Scream 4 should've never happened and this one just proves the cow is just about out of milk.

[rooboy78]

Originally Posted by DraculaHasRisen

As if Scream 4 wasn't terrible enough, Scream 5 is just an all out parody of itself. They should just start actually calling them Stab.

**SPOILERS**


Even from seeing the trailer I had an idea that Jack Quaid was going to be at least one of the killers. Out of all the young cast, he's currently the most up-and-coming. And yet again we have another killer who's some 4-foot tall, 80 lbs. soaking wet chick as the killer?? Really? I think, like Halloween Kills, Scream 5 really just shows us how dead in the water these franchises are. Neve was about as useless as JLC in 'Kills', with a maximum of what, 5 minutes of relevancy and screen time? Clearly a phoned in performance for a quick paycheck. It really just seems these legacy characters are inserted in to these "requels" to draw the core fans to see it because the filmmakers aren't confident enough in their own movie without, and actually starting anew. It was at Dewey's death I gave up on the movie because I couldn't believe they reduced him to some drunk just so he could be the "weak link" out of he, Gale, and Sidney. They're a parody of themselves at this point because there's really nothing personal about what's happening. It's more so about the Stab movies within. You could have left Sid, Gale and Dewey out of this entirely and it still would have worked on it's own, and quite frankly, would have been a less crowded cast and maybe could have taken the time to do a better job of making me like the newer cast. But no; gotta give fan service to the nerds who refuse to realize it's not 1996 and won't just throw in a copy of the original and be happy about it. Scream 4 should've never happened and this one just proves the cow is just about out of milk.

You’re definitely in the minority because the majority of people are loving this. It has the essence of what makes Scream so great and I truly believe these directors understand what made people fall in love with Scream in the first place. Sorry it wasn’t for you but I’m glad most people are absolutely loving it.

[AnthonyGG]

Originally Posted by Alice91

this is the only honest review of this new movie. Don't lie to yourselves

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru1r...ature=youtu.be

I've never seen this reviewer before. He's harsher on the film than I've been but he's not wrong with a lot of his criticism. As much as people are loving it, this new Scream IS a film that plays things safe for 2022 sensibilities. I was aware of this walking out of the theater opening night.

[Alice91]

Originally Posted by DraculaHasRisen

As if Scream 4 wasn't terrible enough, Scream 5 is just an all out parody of itself. They should just start actually calling them Stab.

**SPOILERS**


Even from seeing the trailer I had an idea that Jack Quaid was going to be at least one of the killers. Out of all the young cast, he's currently the most up-and-coming. And yet again we have another killer who's some 4-foot tall, 80 lbs. soaking wet chick as the killer?? Really? I think, like Halloween Kills, Scream 5 really just shows us how dead in the water these franchises are. Neve was about as useless as JLC in 'Kills', with a maximum of what, 5 minutes of relevancy and screen time? Clearly a phoned in performance for a quick paycheck. It really just seems these legacy characters are inserted in to these "requels" to draw the core fans to see it because the filmmakers aren't confident enough in their own movie without, and actually starting anew. It was at Dewey's death I gave up on the movie because I couldn't believe they reduced him to some drunk just so he could be the "weak link" out of he, Gale, and Sidney. They're a parody of themselves at this point because there's really nothing personal about what's happening. It's more so about the Stab movies within. You could have left Sid, Gale and Dewey out of this entirely and it still would have worked on it's own, and quite frankly, would have been a less crowded cast and maybe could have taken the time to do a better job of making me like the newer cast. But no; gotta give fan service to the nerds who refuse to realize it's not 1996 and won't just throw in a copy of the original and be happy about it. Scream 4 should've never happened and this one just proves the cow is just about out of milk.

absolutely agree. Dewey was done wrong. But hey Scream 4 is a gem!

[RustinCohle]

"ThIs WaS tOo WoKe" shut up you old racist idiots.

[Alice91]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

"ThIs WaS tOo WoKe" shut up you old racist idiots.

racist? wow. It's the woke movies that look racist to me or at least pathetic.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

"ThIs WaS tOo WoKe" shut up you old racist idiots.

Yeah, I'm no fan of forced politics, but applying that feeling to every new film that comes out is getting ridiculous.

[RustinCohle]

Originally Posted by Alice91

racist? wow. It's the woke movies that look racist to me or at least pathetic.

Yeah movies without an all white cast are "woke" and it's not racist at all to think that.

Originally Posted by Alice91

Telling me "I'm white"in a derogatory fashion is silly.

I couldn't be rolling my eyes any harder at this. I'm sorry you're white and are offended that "OnLy WhItE pEoPlE aRe ViLlIaNs AnYmOrE."

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by Alice91

racist? wow. It's the woke movies that look racist to me or at least pathetic.

Here's what gets me.... That reviewer complained that only

[Show spoiler]white people were killed in the film. You realize the implications of that criticism? White people have been part of the chopping block since the beginning of the slasher genre. POC however were also part of that block, everytime, never surviving. That's why it's considered a trope, "bruthas don't last long in situations like this". So, now here we are and somehow we have white people complaining about being the only victims? Irony is a staple in the Scream series, but damn lol. So that guy apparently never took issue with every other ethnic group always getting killed in these movies, but wants to cry woke for this film?

Movie has problems, but THAT is not it.

[AnthonyGG]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Here's what gets me.... That reviewer complained that only

[Show spoiler]white people were killed in the film. You realize the implications of that criticism? White people have been part of the chopping block since the beginning of the slasher genre. POC however were also part of that block, everytime, never surviving. That's why it's considered a trope, "bruthas don't last long in situations like this". So, now here we are and somehow we have white people complaining about being the only victims? Irony is a staple in the Scream series, but damn lol. So that guy apparently never took issue with every other ethnic group always getting killed in these movies, but wants to cry woke for this film?

Movie has problems, but THAT is not it.

The same thing crossed my mind, that the end outcome was a subversion of what typically happens in a Scream film or slasher in general, but I think due to the times we're in now, it comes off as playing things safe.

In an age when Michael Myers was deemed "racist" and "homophobic" for killing off Black and gay characters in Halloween Kills, the fates of certain characters in the new Scream definitely feels calculated. It's a pretty corporate boardroom decision.

Had this film been made 10 or 15 years ago I think it would have been a far more interesting and daring move on the part of the filmmakers. Not taking political sides here, just calling it as I see it.

But I'm with you on the note that the film had issues. It most certainly did and that's besides the sidestepping the writers and directors did to prevent social criticism.

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by rooboy78

You’re definitely in the minority because the majority of people are loving this. It has the essence of what makes Scream so great and I truly believe these directors understand what made people fall in love with Scream in the first place. Sorry it wasn’t for you but I’m glad most people are absolutely loving it.

Most people enjoy anything anymore, as long as their favorite costumed murderer is in it. It's like most anything that has become a brand name; people consume it out of familiarity regardless of the quality.

[RustinCohle]

Originally Posted by AnthonyGG

In an age when Michael Myers was deemed "racist" and "homophobic" for killing off Black and gay characters in Halloween Kills, the fates of certain characters in the new Scream definitely feels calculated. It's a pretty corporate boardroom decision.

I'm pretty sure all of the articles and petitions about how Michael Myers "shouldn't be killing fire fighters/gay people/black people/etc." were all fake. Started as a joke by someone and then re-posted over and over again to the point where people couldn't tell if it was a joke anymore. I mean the one article I read calling him homophobic said something like "These nice gay people fixed up his house for him. He should be thanking them, not murdering them." Like come on..obviously a fake article.

[AnthonyGG]

Originally Posted by RustinCohle

I'm pretty sure all of the articles and petitions about how Michael Myers "shouldn't be killing fire fighters/gay people/black people/etc." were all fake. Started as a joke by someone and then re-posted over and over again to the point where people couldn't tell if it was a joke anymore. I mean the one article I read calling him homophobic said something like "These nice gay people fixed up his house for him. He should be thanking them, not murdering them." Like come on..obviously a fake article.

Some may have been faked or parodies (deservedly so if true) but I did see people on social media and YouTube complaining about how Myers got rid of all the minorities and in the end it was "a bunch of White people hunting him down". The firefighters petition was also real though it went nowhere.

[DraculaHasRisen]

Originally Posted by AnthonyGG

The same thing crossed my mind, that the end outcome was a subversion of what typically happens in a Scream film or slasher in general, but I think due to the times we're in now, it comes off as playing things safe.

In an age when Michael Myers was deemed "racist" and "homophobic" for killing off Black and gay characters in Halloween Kills, the fates of certain characters in the new Scream definitely feels calculated. It's a pretty corporate boardroom decision.

Had this film been made 10 or 15 years ago I think it would have been a far more interesting and daring move on the part of the filmmakers. Not taking political sides here, just calling it as I see it.

But I'm with you on the note that the film had issues. It most certainly did and that's besides the sidestepping the writers and directors did to prevent social criticism.

I feel like that's why a lot of these modern sequels, requels, remakes, whatever don't really have much impact; they play it safe and it absolutely shows in the end product. Again, you can enjoy what you want but my opinion is a lot of fans are too afraid to dislike it because of how long we/they have waited for another entry. It's like they can't admit their time was so wasted. I also think a lot of fanbases have a hard time dealing with the fact that the things they grew up on and we're once iconic have just run their course. Halloween is my main thing and I waited almost ten years to get this new "trilogy" and it sucks to be so disappointed after waiting so long. But, after processing it all I've come to the realization and accepted that the franchise is basically over. It's never going to be what it once was, and frankly, I blame the times we live in and the fans for not being able to let go, forcing these filmmakers to produce "fan service" movies like it's soft serve.

[Alice91]

Originally Posted by AnthonyGG

The same thing crossed my mind, that the end outcome was a subversion of what typically happens in a Scream film or slasher in general, but I think due to the times we're in now, it comes off as playing things safe.

In an age when Michael Myers was deemed "racist" and "homophobic" for killing off Black and gay characters in Halloween Kills, the fates of certain characters in the new Scream definitely feels calculated. It's a pretty corporate boardroom decision.

Had this film been made 10 or 15 years ago I think it would have been a far more interesting and daring move on the part of the filmmakers. Not taking political sides here, just calling it as I see it.

But I'm with you on the note that the film had issues. It most certainly did and that's besides the sidestepping the writers and directors did to prevent social criticism.

I love Halloween Kills, Michael was brutal he didn't give a shit of woke politics, he killed everyone in his sight. Those poor couples were so cute but he brutalized them. That's what slashers should do, not forcing a multiracial cast in a predominantly white suburban area with no plot attached to the characters, making sure to have all the white people either killed or be the killers and the minorties well protected so gen z fans can see them in the sequel. Rememebr Tatum? Oh please mr Ghostface, don't kill me, I wanna be in the sequel. He didn't give a f****, he killed poor Tatum who was the hottest and most likeable character.

Scream 5 had tokens with no satirical undertone like in previous Scream movies where the jock, the popular hot girl, the geek were tropes that eventually got either roasted or subverted.

[AnthonyGG]

Originally Posted by DraculaHasRisen

Halloween is my main thing and I waited almost ten years to get this new "trilogy" and it sucks to be so disappointed after waiting so long. But, after processing it all I've come to the realization and accepted that the franchise is basically over. It's never going to be what it once was, and frankly, I blame the times we live in and the fans for not being able to let go, forcing these filmmakers to produce "fan service" movies like it's soft serve.

I'm in the minority with both the new Scream film (a disappointment and my least favorite in the series) and Halloween Kills. Most fans dislike it but even with its flaws - and there ARE flaws - I actually quite enjoyed it. Andi Matichak's presence and performance alone is worth watching. Halloween 2018 was superior but I did find things to like in Kills.

[RustinCohle]

Originally Posted by Alice91

not forcing a multiracial cast

Tell me you're racist without telling me you're racist.

I mean seriously. How do you not understand how racist you sound. Not every single movie is going to have an all white cast anymore. This is 2022 not 1922. Imagine living your life thinking things are "racist towards white people" because "the cast consisted of people of color."

[AnthonyGG]

Originally Posted by Alice91

Scream 5 had tokens with no satirical undertone like in previous Scream movies where the jock, the popular hot girl, the geek were tropes that eventually got either roasted or subverted.

As you can see in my post above, I also quite liked Halloween Kills though I'm the first to admit it was flawed and would rank pretty low among the sequels for me.

My biggest problem with the new cast members was how boring and uninvolved they all were. My favorite newbies were Richie, Wes and Mindy. Amber was ok and Tara, though well acted by Ortega, got tiresome by the midway point. For once I really didn't care who Ghostface took out lol.

[Guy87]

Originally Posted by Alice91

scream was a trend setter it didn't follow the trends it made fun of trends and tropes. the new one is a woke predictable politically correct trope. Telling me "I'm white"in a derogatory fashion is silly.

Look where we ended up like... I miss the previous more carefree movies that did not have to walk on eggshells in order not to offend anyone, on the contrary they took chances and didn't put art and creativity in a box.

I'm not telling you you're white in a derogatory fashion. I'm white. I'm telling you that YOU have made it all about race, and in doing so have stated how important to you your race now is.

Everyone in Scream 1 was white. So it wasn't as much as a "trendsetter" as you might be giving it credit for. Who gives a shit if the victims in this one happen to also be white? The filmmakers are also white. There wasn't ANY clear comment or ideology in terms of race in the film (unlike say the new Candyman, or even Scream 2 joking about black people being killed first. Before they are then killed first).

The film isn't "woke", it just represents the world as it is. Just drop it.

[jess1581]

Lol, this is asinine. I suppose you were pissed that the camera man in Scream 2 managed to escape death?