Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[dmollenauer]

I cannot believe all the people in here saying this not worth upgrading/stinks etc. I feel like people are trying to convince themselves not to buy. The old Blu-ray is near unwatchable so enjoy that drink coaster of a disc. Sure this remaster is not a Sony job, but I am happy with the upgrade if only to get rid of all the nasty EE, causing grain to just look like trash and obliterate details. DNR is there, but hardly ruins the image. Details get a healthy bump and colors are more saturated. I am a fan of restrained HDR application for catalog titles. And that audio!!!

[Pyoko]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Oh come on: The Matrix is a REAL upgrade, Saving Private Ryan is a REAL upgrade, Braveheart is a REAL upgrade. Even Die Hard is a decent upgrade

Out of all the classic titles we are getting this month, guess which of them look like a MINOR upgrade?

Jurassic Park Trilogy and Gladiator. Guess what do they have in common? Universal doing the job

I agree with you when it comes to the quality of the result, but not when it comes to the difference in quality. If you put the Gladiator BD -> Gladiator UHD upgrade on the same level as Jurassic Park BD -> Jurassic Park UHD then I don't know what to tell you, except that there are more shades than black and white.

[pawel86ck]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

Oh come on: The Matrix is a REAL upgrade, Saving Private Ryan is a REAL upgrade, Braveheart is a REAL upgrade. Even Die Hard is a decent upgrade

Out of all the classic titles we are getting this month, guess which of them look like a MINOR upgrade?

Jurassic Park Trilogy and Gladiator. Guess what do they have in common? Universal doing the job

Besides "die hard" you have listed reference transfers . And the thing is, sharpness increase in "die hard" UHD over BD disc is nowhere near as big as in JP1, so I'm confused why you have even mentioned that disc .

[Mr. Forest]

JP1, TLW, and JW are by no means "minor upgrades". JP3 is the only minor upgrade in the set.

[HeavyHitter]

The old BD is really showing its age. It's got a harsher, digital look to it with the magenta push, edge enhancement, film grain seemingly mixed with video noise, and that contrast boosted appearance with clipped whites, etc. It has the look of a master that was created for DVD but then just thrown onto BD. The UHD BD is an improvement in all areas. Could it have been better? Absolutely. However, that can be said for most UHD BDs if you really get down to it. There was probably always something that could have been improved if you analyze a disc hard enough as we know.

So, the way I look at it, what is the reality of the situation? I can watch the BD or the UHD BD. Which is better? And forget even thinking to watch the 3D in 2D; it was never graded to watch in 2D and looks severely off that way. Watch JP 3D in 3D instead (although I have no interest in 3D).

[bradnoyes]

Originally Posted by Mr. Forest

JP1, TLW, and JW are by no means "minor upgrades". JP3 is the only minor upgrade in the set.

No surprise considering that they're still working on the script for JP3.

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

The old BD is really showing its age. It's got a harsher, digital look to it with the magenta push, edge enhancement, film grain seemingly mixed with video noise, and that contrast boosted appearance with clipped whites, etc. It has the look of a master that was created for DVD but then just thrown onto BD. The UHD BD is an improvement in all areas

That's what I'm trying to say:

- 2011 Blu-ray looks like a DVD
- 2018 UHD Blu-ray looks like a Blu-ray

Maybe I have to wait 2030 to watch a true UHD Jurassic Park?

Universal is always a format late....

[Kyle15]

No original color-timing for JP, no buy. It's closer but no cigar. Maybe one day!

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

That's what I'm trying to say:

- 2011 Blu-ray looks like a DVD
- 2018 UHD Blu-ray looks like a Blu-ray

Maybe I have to wait 2030 to watch a true UHD Jurassic Park?

Universal is always a format late....

Sure, I have no problem with that comparison (although I think the UHD BD in some areas is a little better than that). But the question is, what are you going to do next time you watch JP?

[MisterXDTV]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

Sure, I have no problem with that comparison (although I think the UHD BD in some areas is a little better than that). But the question is, what are you going to do next time you watch JP?

I will probably buy the UHD disc when it gets really cheap.

I can't spend €25 for this kind of quality...

I consider this as a remastered Blu-ray, not a UHD disc

[Shuwatch]

Just picked up my steelbook set from Best Buy. Truly gorgeous packaging top to bottom. I love that they even built in dividers into the slip box to prevent the two steelbooks from rubbing against each other. I love the original film dearly, and I can’t wait to watch it tomorrow.

Quick question, if I redeem the digital codes on Vudu will I get the UHD versions, or do I have to go to the universalredeem site?

[Ruined]

Originally Posted by dmollenauer

I cannot believe all the people in here saying this not worth upgrading/stinks etc. I feel like people are trying to convince themselves not to buy. The old Blu-ray is near unwatchable so enjoy that drink coaster of a disc. Sure this remaster is not a Sony job, but I am happy with the upgrade if only to get rid of all the nasty EE, causing grain to just look like trash and obliterate details. DNR is there, but hardly ruins the image. Details get a healthy bump and colors are more saturated. I am a fan of restrained HDR application for catalog titles. And that audio!!!

Maybe if on super sale I will get it but right now I don't like the fact that they dumped all the discs in a single case. When Jurassic World 2 & 3 come out on UHD this will be an odd-looking incomplete set on the shelf. This could have been avoided by offering individual releases.

[mar3o]

As far as the first film, I think the 3D is by far the way to go based on what I'm hearing in reviews, including SpareChange, who knows what he's talking about, and even he says the 3D is a superior viewing experience. The 4k offers a mediocre improvement over the blu-ray from what I'm hearing, but I saw the 3D in the theatre, and it was quite amazing - up there with Titanic in terms of a 3D conversion on an older film. I'll take an outstanding 3D experience of Jurassic Park over a mediocre 4k release any day. Now if it's a choice of the old 2D blu-ray or the UHD, obviously the UHD will win, but 3D>UHD in this particular case.

[Leonidas King]

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

That's what I'm trying to say:

- 2011 Blu-ray looks like a DVD
- 2018 UHD Blu-ray looks like a Blu-ray

Maybe I have to wait 2030 to watch a true UHD Jurassic Park?

Universal is always a format late....

Sorry but wrong. 2018 UHD definitely looks like a UHD!

[Doctorossi]

I love 3D... for movies that were designed/shot with it in mind.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The 3D version is like watching it with Vaseline over your eyes. The UHD version is like watching it with slightly less Vaseline over your eyes.

Detail aside though, the 3D is amazing on this title. I loved the experience in the theatre. I doubt the UHD of this film could offer anywhere close to that "wow factor" visually.

Sometimes the 3D is the way to go. Sometimes the UHD is. Sometimes they are both winners, depending on your mood. In this case, the 3D is the winner. And I'm not interested in the 2nd or 3rd films, so I really have no interest in this set.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Doctorossi

I love 3D... for movies that were designed/shot with it in mind.

Titanic, Terminator 2, Wizard of Oz, and Jurassic Park are all proof that even films that didn't originally have 3D in mind can turn out stunning. Seriously.

As a huge fan of 50's 3D films, I can certainly appreciate that being filmed for 3D can make a difference, and they just don't film 3D movies like they did back then - even the best 3D films today fall short. Composition makes a huge difference with 3D. But Titanic and the others I mentioned are so well done that I would swear they were thinking in 3D while they were composing their shots. So many shots seem set up perfectly for 3D in those films.

[RemingtonSteele]

Originally Posted by jh901

What display do you have?

4,5 m screen (projection).

Originally Posted by dmollenauer

I feel like people are trying to convince themselves not to buy. The old Blu-ray is near unwatchable

But that's just the point that is annoying IMO. Hope to not get too off topiic, but when Blu-ray was announced, I expected a true 2K resolution of each movie as it is called "Full HD"... and we know what actually happened.
Given that a 35mm movie has an effective resolution far over 4K, I would expect an UHD to offer a true 4K solution then. Now look at the JP UHD screenshots. In no way can I imagine Universal really properly rescanned 35mm to 4K.

Like MisterXDTV put it:

Originally Posted by MisterXDTV

That's what I'm trying to say:

- 2011 Blu-ray looks like a DVD
- 2018 UHD Blu-ray looks like a Blu-ray

Maybe I have to wait 2030 to watch a true UHD Jurassic Park?

Universal is always a format late....

We shouldn't need to analyize if there are a few more pixels than on the BD, but get the true 4K resolution which many threatrical releases potentially have to offer.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by Cherokee Jack

I'm no tech expert but the Contrast Enhancer setting supposedly works differently on SDR and HDR on some Samsungs. I've read elsewhere and heard back from Samsung themselves that Contrast Enhancer should be turned on when watching HDR content.

I've been trying to tell people for months that LG sets, at least the 2016 model I own, require dynamic contrast on to display HDR properly. There are articles and discussion out there about this, and I even created a thread about it. HDR and dynamic contrast are tied together with at least some, if not all, LG UHD sets, both LCD and OLED. But nobody wants to listen, Whatever. I try to help.

Dynamic contrast does not work the same in HDR as it does in SDR for LG sets. People need to start learning that HDR is a different beast that requires different settings.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by JohnCarpenterFan

It's boring when everything looks the same and films have been robbed of their unique identity.

It's also boring when every movie looks teal/yellow, like so many modern films do. Not every films needs comic book coloring or sickly teal tints.