First Blood / Rambo: First Blood Part II / Rambo III 4K UHDs (1982-1988)

[Matt89]

I never picked up the Lionsgate UHDs of the sequels (just the first one, which I've since sold off in anticipation of this upcoming set) but GODDAMN that's how bad the compression is on FB Part II? Lmao. That's some YouTube quality shit right there. Wow. Like I actually laughed out loud. That's brutal.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by rockyy

audio aside for a second, regarding the video itself, are they doing any new restoration work to the masters for the first 3 films? Meaning are we going to see more detail and tighter grain or are they just using existing masters and slapping them with DV to give more pop?

I'm just asking because it seems that the audio (according to what you've been hinting) will be the real star of the party with less emphasis on the video. Not that I'm not looking forward to the new grading, just trying to get an idea of how different they will look compared to the current ones.

I can't guarantee what these will/won't look like but they are tweaking the existing 4K restorations, which in themselves are verr naice for detail and grain IMO but the thin, yellowy grading is a bit squinky. Fiddle with that - though not necessarily to make them "pop" (ugh) because that's not what DV does - and give them a decent encode and they should best the existing discs whilst perhaps not being a quantum leap in whatever it is you're looking for visually.

[rockyy]

Originally Posted by DR Herbert West

I think that's pretty much guaranteed.

yuck

[rockyy]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I can't guarantee what these will/won't look like but they are tweaking the existing 4K restorations, which in themselves are verr naice for detail and grain IMO but the thin, yellowy grading is a bit squinky. Fiddle with that - though not necessarily to make them "pop" (ugh) because that's not what DV does - and give them a decent encode and they should best the existing discs whilst perhaps not being a quantum leap in whatever it is you're looking for visually.

sounds good to me, never picked up current 4k releases, so whatever they will do with the new ones will be an automatic upgrade anyway, and probably the best they'll ever look again on home video.

[DMRI2006]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I can't guarantee what these will/won't look like but they are tweaking the existing 4K restorations, which in themselves are verr naice for detail and grain IMO but the thin, yellowy grading is a bit squinky. Fiddle with that - though not necessarily to make them "pop" (ugh) because that's not what DV does - and give them a decent encode and they should best the existing discs whilst perhaps not being a quantum leap in whatever it is you're looking for visually.

Sounds about right. Just getting the audio straight, especially the currently terrible Rambo II 5.1, would be reason enough to go forward with this.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I can't guarantee what these will/won't look like but they are tweaking the existing 4K restorations, which in themselves are verr naice for detail and grain IMO but the thin, yellowy grading is a bit squinky. Fiddle with that - though not necessarily to make them "pop" (ugh) because that's not what DV does - and give them a decent encode and they should best the existing discs whilst perhaps not being a quantum leap in whatever it is you're looking for visually.

So is this basically going to give us the way the film is supposed to look like video and hdr grade wise unlike what we got before?

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by rockyy

yuck

I think I could be wrong this could be the fault of the encode this 2023 release could fix these issues.

[jess1581]

Hold up, is there gonna be a new release of these Rambos on 4k next year?

[DR Herbert West]

Originally Posted by batman2000

I think I could be wrong this could be the fault of the encode this 2023 release could fix these issues.

It's definitely the encode.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Hold up, is there gonna be a new release of these Rambos on 4k next year?

Supposedly yes that is supposed to be a redo fixing the issues of the previous box set.

[jess1581]

Originally Posted by batman2000

Supposedly yes that is supposed to be a redo fixing the issues of the previous box set.

Oh thank god I didn't shoot my shot on the current ones.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by jess1581

Oh thank god I didn't shoot my shot on the current ones.

Yeah after see the currently available release wow it’s as bad as what shout did to the craft. it’s a shame shout went downhill they in the past would have offered a replacement of the botched discs now they say we don’t care.

[Markgway]

If 1-3 have OG stereo mixes that would probably sway me to double dip.

If they fix the milky blacks and Pisstavision, also, it's a sure buy.

Any word on how Part 4 will be handled? The current disc isn't up to much, is it?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Markgway

If 1-3 have OG stereo mixes that would probably sway me to double dip.

If they fix the milky blacks and Pisstavision, also, it's a sure buy.

Any word on how Part 4 will be handled? The current disc isn't up to much, is it?

Yes, OG stereo and 70mm 6-track where applicable. Tweaked grading inc. a Dobly Vision pass. They're evaluating what to do with 4 re: the image. The current UHD is yet another Lionsgate filmout but it's one of their betterer ones IMO, I really like it. But when I inquired they said they hadn't decided to stick with that or go back to the 2K DI.

[batman2000]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, OG stereo and 70mm 6-track where applicable. Tweaked grading inc. a Dobly Vision pass. They're evaluating what to do with 4 re: the image. The current UHD is yet another Lionsgate filmout but it's one of their betterer ones IMO, I really like it. But when I inquired they said they hadn't decided to stick with that or go back to the 2K DI.

If you don’t mind me ask how do you know about this?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by batman2000

If you don’t mind me ask how do you know about this?

Someone told me. Someone who's involved with the production of these discs.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Someone told me. Someone who's involved with the production of these discs.

Sylvester Stallone.

[Geoff D]

Not bloody likely.

[dallywhitty]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Not bloody likely.

James Cameron!?

[Filmmaker]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Yes, OG stereo and 70mm 6-track where applicable. Tweaked grading inc. a Dobly Vision pass. They're evaluating what to do with 4 re: the image. The current UHD is yet another Lionsgate filmout but it's one of their betterer ones IMO, I really like it. But when I inquired they said they hadn't decided to stick with that or go back to the 2K DI.

Since I can’t fathom one reason why using a filmout would be preferred over the actual 2K DI, is it safe to assume it’s somehow costlier to do the latter?