Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Worse, he’s willing to try to believe a lie.
That’s a lot of maintenance without any reason and ultimately like trying to walk in opposite directions at the same time.

I can agree with loving what you have.
Trying to pretend it’s something that it’s not though is delusional.

I don’t like BMWs but I don’t pretend my Honda’s are better engineered. They just fit my own needs better.

Liking streaming and Bluetooth headphones is one thing trying to convince others that better things are no better is another.

Hey everybody has an opinion, you have an opinion because of the way Movies and TV Shows look to you. With my equipment and setup IMO it's Disc like to me, especially BD 1080P. My Headphones are not Bluetooth, they are Wireless Digital Surround Sound.

When you start talking about cars, I've had many models. Mostly Chevy's, Camaro's, Chevelle, Corvette, and Honda's. I think Honda's are great. Do you know they only run Chevy and Honda engines at the Indianapolis 500?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I fixed that fer ya.

Whenever you say that you accost people "on the street," I envision this peculiar old man wandering up to random strangers and cornering them in awkward and unwanted conversations.

[bhampton]

I did not know that.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hey everybody has an opinion, you have an opinion because of the way Movies and TV Shows look to you.P. With my equipment and setup IMO it's Disc like to me, especially BD 1080 My Headphones are not Bluetooth, they are Wireless Digital Surround Sound.

When you start talking about cars, I've had many models. Mostly Chevy's, Camaro's, Chevelle, Corvette, and Honda's. I think Honda's are great. Do you know they only run Chevy and Honda engines at the Indianapolis 500?

Correction: your headphones offer simulated surround sound. Simulated is NOT the real thing; it is a nice synonym for "fake." Do you need another link to a dictionary?

And not "especially BD"; you mean "only BD" as that is all that you have ever directly compared to streaming. You are comparing blu-rays to 4K streams and then you tell us with amazement how well a 4K stream compares to a blu-ray.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Worse still, he probably does this even during the pandemic.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Please let us know what you think of Greyhound.

Just finished watching this and it was fine. It's barely 90-minutes with credits, so don't expect depth or general backstory from any character. It's just non-stop marine warfare. The Dolby Vision and Atmos was fantastic.

I enjoyed The Old Guard more, but this was cool, too.

I'd say that if you're still able to get a trial subscription to ATV+ then it's worth it for this, otherwise you'll have to wait to import the 4K disc from overseas since Apple owns the streaming rights for 15 years in the states. Unless Apple changes their stance on physical media, don't hold your breath for a disc release here.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

Just finished watching this and it was fine. It's barely 90-minutes with credits, so don't expect depth or general backstory from any character. It's just non-stop marine warfare. The Dolby Vision and Atmos was fantastic.

I enjoyed The Old Guard more, but this was cool, too.

I'd say that if you're still able to get a trial subscription to ATV+ then it's worth it for this, otherwise you'll have to wait to import the 4K disc from overseas since Apple owns the streaming rights for 15 years in the states. Unless Apple changes their stance on physical media, don't hold your breath for a disc release here.

Streaming rights and physical distribution rights are NOT the same thing. I fully expect that this will get a domestic disc release.

Thanks for the review, though. I do want to see it, but not with Crapple.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by alchav21

Hey everybody has an opinion, you have an opinion because of the way Movies and TV Shows look to you. With my equipment and setup IMO it's Disc like to me, especially BD 1080P. My Headphones are not Bluetooth, they are Wireless Digital Surround Sound.

Blame Sony for advertising MDR-DS6500 as Digital Surround Wireless Headphones back in 2011.

Your headphones are incapable of truly separate surround channels. It uses a array of multiple magnetic transducers placed in some fashion that simulates to the ear some minor sensation of surround sound from a L+R audio.

The current bunch of gaming headphones use the term "Virtual Surround Sound". They also try to say they are 7.1, but its all virtual.

[Leslie Dame]

^^ but does it matter? It still sounds the best ever or even better than the real thing even without comparing both

Sorry, I just couldn't resist. Please continue.

[JohnAV]

I notice that we now have a new marketing spin with Lee's VC-2 post pointing to https://www.vc-2hq.com/ link

typically up to 4 times visually lossless

Is this something the brits made up?

British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC) developed and open sourced a Wavelet-based video codec named Dirac. A low-complexity profile of the Dirac codec named Dirac Pro, which does not use motion compensation, was standardized by SMPTE as the VC-2 codec. Silex Insight’s VC-2 HQ IP implements the VC-2 codec and associated support for handling the compressed bitstream.

I can hear the jokes coming! I can't see any difference in video quality, so its visually lossless.

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

Whenever you say that you accost people "on the street," I envision this peculiar old man wandering up to random strangers and cornering them in awkward and unwanted conversations.

Originally Posted by Anthony P

Originally Posted by Vilya

Worse still, he probably does this even during the pandemic.

You know what I meant, when I talk to people that I know or have business with. I guess it's real mature to laugh at people, the Moderators are not going to fault you for that. This type of display just shows how low you can go, you don't see this from Gentlemen like Steedeel, CV19, or JohnAV. They don't try to discredit with cheap shots like that!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You know what I meant, when I talk to people that I know or have business with. I guess it's real mature to laugh at people, the Moderators are not going to fault you for that. This type of display just shows how low you can go, you don't see this from Gentlemen like Steedeel, CV19, or JohnAV. They don't try to discredit with cheap shots like that!

It was just a joke and a pretty mild one when compared to some that you have made. You have been trolling this thread and insulting people for five years and long before I ever posted here.

Allow me to quote alchav the "gentleman" :

Originally Posted by alchav21

It was Rhetorical, don't pay attention to

[Show spoiler]Steedeel

he thinks Little Kindergarten Kids are taking over The World of Home Theater, and putting it on a Watch. He also doesn't like the PQ of HDX Digital, even though he has never seen it.

We may not see "low blows" from the person that you attacked here, but we sure see them from you.

Originally Posted by alchav21

My point exactly, Reports/Surveys/Blogs, no real life experience. Just like HDX and Vudu, you should not really comment on this unless you have first hand experience. Tourist are all over England, not just London and if you have never been to the United States then I really don't think you can comment on the Trends here. England may give up on Home Theater, and Little Kindergarten Kids may take over but The States are different. We live in the Real World, and Streaming Digital is now with HDX and UHD! I watch Movies before they come out on Disc or the Movie Theaters.

The irony of the underlined part!

Originally Posted by alchav21

You guys are dismal, The Studios can control Discs too, so that's not a good excuse to own Disc.

Originally Posted by alchav21

I don't know what rock you are living under, but Streaming is taking over. You do know that you Stream from your Blu-ray Player, so why not directly from a Server. If you can't see the writing on the wall, you are still under that Rock.

Originally Posted by alchav21

Said by a Disc Lover that has no idea about Bandwidth and set up!

Calling someone a "_____" Lover is a very derogatory term with a definite racist origin. That phrase began with a very different word other than "Disc" in front of "Lover"; you should be ashamed for co-opting such a hateful and racist expression to ridicule those who prefer discs.

Originally Posted by alchav21

Maybe you can jump on with

[Show spoiler]Penguin

and his Control Issues, or go back to your Little Kid Stuff!

Originally Posted by alchav21

That's all right Sarah, these Disc Lovers just see their beloved Physical going Down in Flames. You can find and skew statistics anyway you want, but we all see the realistic facts.

Originally Posted by alchav21

So you guys are like Clones, the Blind leading the Blind right into the Abyss!

Originally Posted by alchav21

Well I have been telling you guys this for a while, The Disc is Dead! If you don't think Streaming Video is King, you live under a Rock.

Originally Posted by alchav21

To some of you guys I might sound crazier than

[Show spoiler]Steedeel

!

You love to end your comments with an insult and in this instance directed at a member who had nothing to do with your comment; you took this gratuitous potshot at a member whom you consider to be a gentleman, too.

Stop playing the victim. You are as guilty of being as nasty as anyone that you accuse.

You were a troll then, are a troll now, and will be a troll tomorrow.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

If folks are snagging BD's from the Warner Archive sale -- you can do 5 for $50 with code:

WBAFF5

Thank you for the discount code! I used it today when I ordered 8 more blu-rays.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

I notice that we now have a new marketing spin with Lee's VC-2 post pointing to https://www.vc-2hq.com/ link



Is this something the brits made up?




I can hear the jokes coming! I can't see any difference in video quality, so its visually lossless.

Shave, shave, shave.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Shave, shave, shave.

I really need to; I haven't shaven in 4 days and I now look like a garden gnome.

I must have overlooked it while I was ordering 45 titles on disc this month...and only 12 days in.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by alchav21

You know what I meant, when I talk to people that I know or have business with. I guess it's real mature to laugh at people, the Moderators are not going to fault you for that. This type of display just shows how low you can go, you don't see this from Gentlemen like Steedeel, CV19, or JohnAV. They don't try to discredit with cheap shots like that!

Why don't you do yourself a favor, stop posting silly crap, being a hypocrite and being a nail. If you insist on being a nail here you will get hammered.

Originally Posted by Vilya

If you don't wanna be hammered, don't be a nail.

Now the following rule (here) has been posted several times yet you completely ignore it. Do you have a problem understanding what it means?

If your only purpose on this forum is to question Blu-ray as a format and bringing negativity to the forum, then you are not welcome.

Trolling is not the same thing as having a discussion.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Why don't you do yourself a favor, stop posting silly crap, being a hypocrite and being a nail. If you insist on being a nail here you will get hammered.

Now the following rule (here) has been posted several times yet you completely ignore it. Do you have a problem understanding what it means?

Trolling is not the same thing as having a discussion.

That old post of mine reminded me of how he has flip flopped on the subject of bitrates as an objective measurement of quality.

Originally Posted by alchav21

It's a known fact that BitRate is the controlling factor for Streaming Video Quality.

Originally Posted by alchav21

We have to get back on track with Physical or Digital, and I think it all depends on Bitrates now.

and then when it was repeatedly pointed out to him that discs always have much higher bitrates, his tune changed to:

Originally Posted by alchav21

Thanks

[Show spoiler]The Donster

, too many people hang their hats on these Bitrates, when it should just be the Quality of what we are viewing and listening too.

Objective data no longer matters now; just go with subjective feelings instead. Shortly after that above quote he contradicts himself later in the same post:

Originally Posted by alchav21

Those Streaming Providers that try to cut corners and use Poor Codec and Low Bitrates will fail!

It's kind of sad how he can't keep anything straight.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I really need to; I haven't shaven in 4 days and I now look like a garden gnome.

I must have overlooked it while I was ordering 45 titles on disc this month...and only 12 days in.

Good man.

[Vilya]

There be lots of sales!

The Semi-annual 50% Off Criterion sale at B&N

The 4 for $44 sale at WBShop

The on going sale at the Disney Movie Club

Flash sales at Amazon.

I'd be losing money if I didn't buy right now.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Vilya

There be lots of sales!

The Semi-annual 50% Off Criterion sale at B&N

The 4 for $44 sale at WBShop

The on going sale at the Disney Movie Club

Flash sales at Amazon.

I'd be losing money if I didn't buy right now.

I’m dreading the rumoured delivery tax, it will hit me hard considering I already pay customs on a small selection of discs.

It won’t stop me though, nothing will.