Have you not seen the movies before? If you liked these that much...you should love Revenge of the Sith
This one's the sh!t
I haven't seen the original trilogy since I was a kid and it's been years since I've seen the newer ones so I'm pretty excited to see these... finally... on almighty blu!!
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Film: 4/5
-overall, I loved it.
-Ja Ja didn't bother me for the most part. However, I'll admit that by the ninth "how ruuude!" I was asking myself why Lucas kept using that line so much with him?
-I especially loved the change of setting/scenery: from space to Naboo's gorgeous plush green foliage to the underwater city (felt like watching "Finding Nemo") to desert Tatooine. Definitely one of my favorite aspects of Star Wars: you get so many different settings to digest that it really invokes the imagination.
-for some reason, I love the whole idea of them getting
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Tatooine. We can all relate to that (not on a planet, but just in a weird place). Having to find a way to get the ship's repair pieces was good and entertaining to watch unfold. I like the races (great audio!!) and found them fun too.
-and now for the few things I didn't like (which I'm hoping you SW freaks can smooth over for me):
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(1) On Tatooine, they receive a signal from Queen's associate but agree not to respond to it, otherwise it'll indicate their location and agree that the signal might be a trap to have them respond to give away their location. Ok. So they dont' respond. Got it. But what's this?? Darth Maul is heading to Tatooine? How does he know where to go? I thought they didn't respond? THen the emperor (or someone) tells how they tracked them using a signal. Again, this doesn't match up with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's decision not the respond?? Help?!?
(2) Yoda objects to Qui-Gon training Anakin. Qui-Gon replies that even if the council won't agree to train him, that he will train him himself outside of the council. I don't get this. Why does the council allow a Jedi to operate rogue like this and train whoever he wants? What's the point of the council then? I see the council accepted Anakin to be Obi Wan's apprentice at the end of the film, so I guess they had a change of heart in Anakin?
(3) When the trade federation invaded Naboo, the Queen evacuates, we hear people talk about massive amounts of people getting killed...and yet see nobody get killed. We don't even see the invasion. Yes, we see the presence of teh robot army later in the film, when the Queen gets Jaja's people to help fight them, but until that point, we don't see any invasion or attack on Naboo, we just hear about it. A small point and maybe I'm being picky, but it would have been more effective for me to get into the film and emotionally invovled if I saw an invasion and saw Naboo people getting killed (within the PG-13 rating)
(4) Throughout the film, I guess I understand the politics of what was going on: trade federation made some kind of deal with Emperor (Palpatine) to invade Naboo, which in-turn would cause the Queen to ask for help, which in-turn would cause the Chancellor to ask for an investigation of the invasion, which in-turn would cause the Queen to ask for the Chancellor to be replaced, which in-turn would cause Palpatine to replace the Chancellor. Whew. Did Palpatine premeditate all of that? Seems like a lot of work
PQ: 3.75/5 (I went in expecting 2.5, which I had read, so I was VERY happy with those low expectations. You have to split the PQ into (a) space shots = 4.5/5, (b) land shots= 3.5/5, for avg = 3.75/5
AQ: 5/5 (awesome/incredible, but for some reason not quite as good as Empire Strikes back)
Cool, glad you enjoyed it!
Answering your questions, my answers generally jive with Diesel's (he answered the Jedi Council question better too).
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1.) If I remember right, didn't Padme (disguised as Sadme) send a signal in secret? Otherwise, it's a plot hole.
2.) The purpose of the Jedi council is rather elusive, and their inner politics don't particuarly make sense. Another "Star Wars" geek might explain it better, because I found it nutty too. I think the main point is that Qui-Gon defies the council, Anakin proves his worth, then the council gives into his point-of-view.
3.) I'm sure that Lucas didn't want to show much bloodshed in this episode, so he kept the deaths offscreen. Which makes sense to me; "The Phantom Menace" is probably the most lighthearted and family-friendly episode of the lot, whereas "Revenge of the Sith" is all-out PG-13, all dark and evil. But similairly, the Galactic Empire goes on to enslave entire alien races, massacre people, and generally oppress the galaxy, but it's rarely shown in the films.
4.) On my first viewing, the politics of Eps I and II really tripped me up, but really only make sense once you see the big reveal in Ep III (although, it sounds like you've figured it out ahead of time). But yeah, this is part of Palpatine's plan, to seize power. In Ep II, you see him gain even more power, and kick-start the Clone Wars, so that by Ep III, he can smoothly transist the government from a republic to an empire.
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Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones
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Film: 3/5
-good film. I enjoyed it. probably my least favorite SW film.
-I feel that Episodes I&II could be summed up in 2 words: Protect Padme
-Hayden Christensen was better than I expected and I can now see the logic of Lucas in casting him: he is VERY effective at portraying BOTH good/nice guy and evil/mean guy. I guess this is a must-have for Anakin casting and I concur that other actors may not have this specific aspect to the level Hayden does
-My favorite (bad) Hayden Moment: "I hate sand. Its coarse and hard...and its geeeetss everyyyywhereeeeee." (MASSIVE CRINGE). But then Hayden completely redeems himself: "Not like here. Here, everything is soft..." (Hayden's eyes go RIGHT to Portman's t!ts)
-Overall, part 2 was good. I like the "Blade Runner" feeling of Corusant, especially when Obi-Wan and Anakin are watching over Padme, and the
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and the later determination of where the dart came from. Great 101 action and detective type suspense. I also found Hayden's change to
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believable and real, because he was able to convey believable good and bad emotions.
-but I felt the plot lacking and a few things didn't make much sense to me in the plot structure:
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-in episode I, Yoda was ADAMANT that Anakin shouldn't be trained. Now in episode II, when Padme needs to be protected after already an assassination attempt, he puts Anakin in charge of her? Yes, I see its 10 years later, but it strikes me as a bit careless, especially since he was already suspicious of even training him to begin with.
-After Obi Wan tracks the dart used to try to kill Padme to Kamino, he learns that a droid army is being made for...the Republic?? I thought the Separatists were making an army? Who ordered the clone Republic army to be made?
-Dooku tells Obi-Wan that a Sith Lord is in control of the Senate. I thought Dooku was Palpatine's/Emperor's apprentice, so why would he blow his cover?
PQ: 4/5 (a bit better than part 1, but still not 4.5)
AQ: 5/5 (again, great/awesome, but for some reason, neither episodes I-II seem to have equalled what I heard in episode V = beyond awesome)
This has got to be the most underrated Episode of them all, I love it!
I especially agree; I didn't think Hayden Christensen's acting was all that terrible. The way he talks, and his hairdo, often reminds me of James Dean (which might have been Lucas' plan; but of course, Dean was a better actor). He does have a few bad lines (the dialogue he has with Padme in "RotS" really makes me cringe), but I felt he brought the character to life effectively.
As far as these questions go...
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1.) Anakin really wanted to invesgiate the assassination attempt, but Yoda denied him that and made him go on a type of "babysitting duty" (ah, jeez, hanging out in the Lake District with a hot girl, what a shame ). In this sense, I still don't think Yoda really trusted him.
2.) No, the Droid Army on Geonosis is being made for the Galactic Confederacy (aka, the Seperatists), only the Clone Army is made for the Republic. The Clone Army was ordered by somebody (I forgot the name, Siphus Dias or something?) at the same time "The Phantom Menace" was taking place, but this order was ultimately dispatched by Darth Sidious (the identity of which you will find out in the next Episode ).
Now that I think about it, I realize that Jango Fett was working both sides.
3.) That whole scene never made sense to me either, especially since
[Show spoiler]at the time I first saw it, I was still confused as to whether or not Palpatine and Darth Sidious were one and the same
. This dialogue can vaguely confirm that, so in the end, it'd be exposition for the audience's benefit. Or perhaps it's just another one of those scenes where the bad guy "monologues" so diabolically.
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On September 21, 2011 AD, approximately 10:15 a.m. GMT, Al officially received a box at the post office. Its contents: one copy of the complete "Star Wars" film series on high-definition Blu-Ray discs...
[Show spoiler] YES!!!!!!!!!
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Missed a few little parts of dialogue due to note taking, but I still thought it was fantastic (as a piece of big fast pace flashy entertainment)
All the acting is great, the film moves at a very very swift natural pace and a lot of scenes are just lovely to look at, either through cinematography or interesting editing. On the flip side, a lot of scenes are hard to watch, some of the scenes involving children being killed are very dark and intense to watch, but by the 5th time they've played the "innocent child is dead" thing, you start to at the prospect at playing the same card.
It's just a good gangster film, with a lot of moral edge. Funny scenes are juxtaposed by dark serious scenes with killings very well, and the narrative is very well spliced, if teetering of track in a lot of instances. The message of the film feels missing for the most of the film, considering it's set in the 70's, and it feels hard to relate to modern day, up until the end, which is a very bittersweet ending.
Have you not seen the movies before? If you liked these that much...you should love Revenge of the Sith
I had seen Episodes I-II twice I believe, but have only seen Episode III once in the theater, and don't remember ANY of it Great to hear its the best of the three, some have even said its in their top 3 if they ranked the 6 SW films?? wow
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This movie is easily the worst of the 6 imo. I give it a 2.75/5. It has a few saving graces....Liam Neeson, Ian McDiarmid, McGregor and the Maul duel. Just about everything else falls flat.
you forgot Portman I don't know if its the blu-ray PQ but I think I yelled "OMG!!!" 8-10 times during Episodes I-II during different entrances she made.
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As for your questions:
1)
[Show spoiler]If I remember correctly, didn't they go against the Jedi's orders and respond? I've only seen the movie a handful of times, so I could be mistaken.
you're probably correct. I just watched it once and was confused. I rememeber Neeson and McGregor agreeing
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and telling Queen the same thing, but they may have disobeyed them.
2)
[Show spoiler]He would have LEFT the order to train Anakin if need be. The Jedi don't condone the rogue nature...but if he's outside of the order, what could they do?
THANKS! That makes total sense!!
3)
[Show spoiler] Lucas was too busy with all the political talk to show us something interesting.
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[Show spoiler] He planned everything out very carefully and tactfully.
yes, it seems that I don't know everything yet until I watch Ep. III.
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I actually enjoyed this one more than I used to the last time I watched it (3.25/5). Hayden C. is definitely bad here at many instances...especially when he gets all creepy with Portman.
For your questions:
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[Show spoiler]1) Yes he was hesitant of Anakin even being trained to begin with...but he IS the Chosen One and they did decide to allow him to be trained. So that change of heart was early on and it stands to reason that over the 10 years since Skywalker has proven himself in some other missions that Yoda would give him this assignment.
that's what I was guessing. it makes sense. plus, like Al said, the "babysitting" was the less important of the two missions, when you think about it.
2) Republic = CLONE army. Separatists = DROID army.
I think this is addressed better in the novelization...but it's been a long time since I read it so I could be mistake here as well. But as far as I remember, it was Dooku who ordered the creation of the clone army under the name of Syfo Dias (who is dead) under the orders of Darth Sidious.
This was handled rather poorly in the film.
Yes, it seemed to not be explained that well. At the beginning (opening credits or opening dialogue), it was clearly stated that the separtists were making an "army". So when Obi-wan discovered that an "army" was being cloned, I just put 2 and 2 together. But like you said, there were TWO armies being made all along. That was my confusion. I'll rewatch and see if its any clearer. thanks for clearing it up though.
3) Sith are not to be trusted according to the Jedi. I would assume he told them that to make them believe that he was trying to lead them on the wrong path to who the Sith Master really was. Basically, if a liar doesn't want you to know the truth...he tells you the truth because you will think he is lying.
your logic makes TOTAL sense (liar tells truth so listener won't believe him), but still seemed a little risky on Dooku's part. STill though, I don't even know what this big "reveal" is in episode 3, so I'll wait until i watch that!! thanks for clearing that up though!
Answering your questions, my answers generally jive with Diesel's (he answered the Jedi Council question better too).
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1.) If I remember right, didn't Padme (disguised as Sadme) send a signal in secret? Otherwise, it's a plot hole.
Yeah, you're probably right. I just watched it once and did'nt rewind to verify that nobody sent a signal. I'm curious now so may check when I go home. I'll let you know. But I'm assuming you SW die hard fans are right
2.) The purpose of the Jedi council is rather elusive, and their inner politics don't particuarly make sense. Another "Star Wars" geek might explain it better, because I found it nutty too. I think the main point is that Qui-Gon defies the council, Anakin proves his worth, then the council gives into his point-of-view.
Yes, your'e right about the Jedi Council politics being a bit "nutty". It seems more of a group based on a spiritual-type consitution with the force as the guiding principle. As a result, logic and principles won't stack up against what they do. I guess they're more instinct/gut/feeling than thinking/rational. Yoda definitely was adamant in Episode I that Anakin should NOT be trained, based on his fear of loss. But I can understand why he would relent, given that Anakin was supposedly the balance to the force (chosen one, etc etc) that they all had been waiting for. With high risk, comes high reward, I guess?
3.) I'm sure that Lucas didn't want to show much bloodshed in this episode, so he kept the deaths offscreen. Which makes sense to me; "The Phantom Menace" is probably the most lighthearted and family-friendly episode of the lot, whereas "Revenge of the Sith" is all-out PG-13, all dark and evil. But similairly, the Galactic Empire goes on to enslave entire alien races, massacre people, and generally oppress the galaxy, but it's rarely shown in the films.
Good point about Ep. I being more kid-friendly. I think that was a good thing (From marketing perspective). Ja ja was no doubt part of that too. This was obviously trying to re-ignite the SW franchise in a new generation and you don't want to limit your age range. I guess I still think they could have shown (toned down) invansion/attacks on Naboo, to get the audience more emotionally invested in the Queen/jedi/etc causes, but it would have been hard.
4.) On my first viewing, the politics of Eps I and II really tripped me up, but really only make sense once you see the big reveal in Ep III (although, it sounds like you've figured it out ahead of time). But yeah, this is part of Palpatine's plan, to seize power. In Ep II, you see him gain even more power, and kick-start the Clone Wars, so that by Ep III, he can smoothly transist the government from a republic to an empire Looking forward to Ep. III , and yes, I can see it going in that direction.
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1.) Anakin really wanted to invesgiate the assassination attempt, but Yoda denied him that and made him go on a type of "babysitting duty" (ah, jeez, hanging out in the Lake District with a hot girl, what a shame ). In this sense, I still don't think Yoda really trusted him.
GREAT ANSWER!! makes total sense. Assassination investion >> Babysitting, so Anakin was getting the "inferior" mission. Yes, I agree, Yoda didn't trust him at this point.
2.) No, the Droid Army on Geonosis is being made for the Galactic Confederacy (aka, the Seperatists), only the Clone Army is made for the Republic. The Clone Army was ordered by somebody (I forgot the name, Siphus Dias or something?) at the same time "The Phantom Menace" was taking place, but this order was ultimately dispatched by Darth Sidious (the identity of which you will find out in the next Episode ).
like I told Diesel, I got totally lost here. I thought there was just one army when Obi-wan arrived at the clone army planet, so thought that was the separatist army Its all cleared up now, thanks! Although I still look forward to another viewing and seeing where the republic army was ordered in the film
Now that I think about it, I realize that Jango Fett was working both sides.
uh...ok I'll have to watch the films again to understand your comment
3.) That whole scene never made sense to me either, especially since
[Show spoiler]at the time I first saw it, I was still confused as to whether or not Palpatine and Darth Sidious were one and the same
. This dialogue can vaguely confirm that, so in the end, it'd be exposition for the audience's benefit. Or perhaps it's just another one of those scenes where the bad guy "monologues" so diabolically. uh, I'm still not sure if Palpatine and Darth Sidious are the same person. Don't tell me !!! I still have to see Episode 3
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James was great, it's a very well done film but I didn't like it as much as I thought I would. As an outdoorsman, it's nice to see such a realistic portrayal of self rescue when in a life or death situation. Definitely an effective film that I'd like to revisit again
so it passed the "Frozen" test?
my favorite film of 2010
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Apocalypse Now - 5/5
Absolutely fantastic... one of the greatest of all time. Right from the get go, the film pulls you into a dream like state. I absolutely loved the mix of the classic rock and action scenes with the dark narration and haunting score... perfection. I never watch special features but after seeing how amazingly complex and loaded this film is, I'm pretty intrigued to learn about how strenuous the shoot was...now I need to watch the Heart of Darkness and then see AN Redux. Brando's performance is the epitome of evil genius, just brilliant imo. Martin Sheen is awesome, but Dennis Hopper is the man!
this man speaks great wisdom. the force is strong with this one.
best part:
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Godfather 2 - 4.25/5
Great, just didn't enjoy the story nearly as much as the first one. Slower moving film for sure. I agree with Jhiggy in that the first one by far exceeds the second and Robert DeNiro was great, but didn't care for his performance as much, nor the backstory.
I actually prefer the second to the first. love the backstory. learning how the godfather came to america and rose, STEP BY STEP, to where he is at the beginning of part 1? yes please!!! it is longer (3 1/2 hours) but long films dont bother me as long as they have quality content. heck, I would have eagerly watched a 6 hour piece on the godfather's rise. way too fascinating to me. plus, vito
[Show spoiler]going back to italy to get revenge on that fat S.O.B. who killed his brother?? hell yes!!
not only do we get the godfather's rise, but we get
[Show spoiler]an investigative/detective type manhunt for Michael's shooter, with Michael pretending he knows the shooter, so that the real shooter remains calm and does business with him?? wow, now that is some great script material!
. I completely respect that you love part 1 more. They're both great films. As you can tell, I adore part 2! you could easily give reasons why part 1 is better. they're both too good!!
on a related note, check out this "top 1000 films" ranking from "They SHoot Pictures", probably the most respected movie ranking out there: http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_top100films.htm
Godfather 1? #5 all-time. Godfather 2? #15 all-time. That's pretty sick: both godfather's ranked in the top 15 films out of the top 1000 films ever made!!! (yes, its just a list, but a pretty respected one nonetheless)
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you forgot Portman I don't know if its the blu-ray PQ but I think I yelled "OMG!!!" 8-10 times during Episodes I-II during different entrances she made.
Hey. Speaking of Portman, you were on your vacation when Black Swan came to theaters and Blu-ray. What did you think of that movie and Portmans performance?
Also, when is Breaking Bad S3 scheduled?
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Hey. Speaking of Portman, you were on your vacation when Black Swan came to theaters and Blu-ray. What did you think of that movie and Portmans performance?
tied with 127 Hours for my favorite of 2010. Easy 5/5.
Her performance? Incredible. She played the role of
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perfectly. Her over-ambition and
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was something I just ate up. Totally believable but rarely seen in modern cinema, at least with that realistic of a portrayal. Portman obviously has some personal experience here. Her performance was too good to be all acting. The
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kicked it up a notch for me, as I love films which show subjective/surreal imagery. Sitting her and writing this now, I don't even remember all of the plot, as I only gave it one viewing. It seems like a film that demands repeated viewings (no surprise with Aranofsky). Its #1 on my "to buy" list.
I think I rewound the scene near the end where
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5-6 times, it floored me that much. The whole
[Show spoiler]white swan/black swan character was a briliant script idea and obviously gives infinite themes to chew on. is there a black swan in all of us that varies from dormant to active? or are some of us "black" and "white" swans by nature? I really realy need to watch this again, especially after writing all this now
tied with 127 Hours for my favorite of 2010. Easy 5/5.
Her performance? Incredible. She played the role of
[Show spoiler]burning the candle at both ends
perfectly. Her over-ambition and
[Show spoiler]suicidial mission for perfection
was something I just ate up. Totally believable but rarely seen in modern cinema, at least with that realistic of a portrayal. Portman obviously has some personal experience here. Her performance was too good to be all acting.
Interesting observation. I agree. There have been a few performances by Nicole Kidman and Meryl Streep that I thought to myself "You can act like that unless youn have actually been there." An actor can research a role and read all the psychology books they want, but some emotions, some facial expressions, some eye communications can only be learned (and then depicted) from personal experiece IMO. The roots are too deep and complicated to comprehend in an academic fashion, it must be felt. Curiously, I see it most often when dealing with a history-of-abuse-to-selfdestructive-behavior syndrome/story. Always makes me wonder....
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kicked it up a notch for me, as I love films which show subjective/surreal imagery.
Yep. The sound effects were another huge bonus for me.
[Show spoiler]The ruffling feathers etc. Drove me to that deliciously uncomfortable place that you just KNOW Aronofsky was pushing you towards....with great success.
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5-6 times, it floored me that much.
I only saw it in the theater, but yeah, that f@cked me right up. In an awsome way. I couldnt focus on my drive home....missed off ramps, made wrong turns. Gotta love a film that PUMMELS you THAT far out of your own comfortable reality.
I had seen Episodes I-II twice I believe, but have only seen Episode III once in the theater, and don't remember ANY of it Great to hear its the best of the three, some have even said its in their top 3 if they ranked the 6 SW films?? wow
I'm one of those people
Sith has bounced between 2nd and 3rd on my list with A New Hope several times. Currently it stands at 3rd.
Empire is by FAR the best of the series and 4th on my favorite movies list.
I go:
Empire - 5/5
A New Hope - 4.5/5
Revenge of the Sith - 4.25/5
Return of the Jedi - 4/5
Attack of the Clones - 3.25/5
The Phantom Menace - 2.75/5
The overall story arc of the films...5/5. The saga's overarching story is much better than its individual films (well besides Empire since its a 5/5 ).
I don't know if you are a game playing person...but if you are, you should DEFINITELY check out The Force Unleashed. Not the best of games...but the story is superior to 5 of the 6 films.
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you forgot Portman I don't know if its the blu-ray PQ but I think I yelled "OMG!!!" 8-10 times during Episodes I-II during different entrances she made.
How old was she in Ep. I?
I first saw the movie (this was actually the first Star Wars movie I saw) when I was I believe 10...so I wasn't quite when I saw her
Girls weren't cool for like another few months
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I'll put my responses in bold in your question spoiler.
Hurry up with that Ep. III watch so you can be
Your reviews reminded me...I was supposed to write up new reviews for the OT films...and I still haven't done so yet. Need to get around to that some time this week.
These 2 names are formulas for success in this day and age of movies. They each have starred in great roles, and in great films. This was an automatic rental for me.
Well, just cause it's starring these 2 wonderful actors doesn't mean the movie is going to be wonderful. Hesher is a very offbeat quirky film that is not really your standard movie. For me, it lacked a little substance and plot, but I think that was the idea that the writers wanted. Lot of foul language, lot of blowing stuff up, lot of nonsense. That's Hesher.
Normally, with other actors in this role, I would have given it a 2.5/5. But Levitt is a great actor. So he brought it up slightly. And Portman.... well, she's amazing both in her work and her beauty. (they really ugly-ied her up in this role) Hesher could have been much better, but it wasn't bad. It just lacked.......something.
On September 21, 2011 AD, approximately 10:15 a.m. GMT, Al officially received a box at the post office. Its contents: one copy of the complete "Star Wars" film series on high-definition Blu-Ray discs...
[Show spoiler] YES!!!!!!!!!
Wow, you're behind. I got mine two days ago and mine came from the UK...
Okay, I managed to find the time to rewatch "The Phantom Menace." So I have better answers for a couple of surfdude's questions:
[Show spoiler] (1) On Tatooine, they receive a signal from Queen's associate but agree not to respond to it, otherwise it'll indicate their location and agree that the signal might be a trap to have them respond to give away their location. Ok. So they dont' respond. Got it. But what's this?? Darth Maul is heading to Tatooine? How does he know where to go? I thought they didn't respond? THen the emperor (or someone) tells how they tracked them using a signal. Again, this doesn't match up with Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan's decision not the respond?? Help?!?
I never considered this before, but immediately after showing the Queen receiving the transmission, they cut to Coruscant with Darth Sidious and Darth Maul saying "we completed the trace, haul butt to Tatooine, revenge will be ours, blah blah blah." So the film never really explains how or why the trace ever got completed. I would assume that, once the transmission was received, it could have pinged back with the location. Or, somebody did transmit back. But since the movie doesn't explain it, it's a plot hole.
(2) Yoda objects to Qui-Gon training Anakin. Qui-Gon replies that even if the council won't agree to train him, that he will train him himself outside of the council. I don't get this. Why does the council allow a Jedi to operate rogue like this and train whoever he wants? What's the point of the council then? I see the council accepted Anakin to be Obi Wan's apprentice at the end of the film, so I guess they had a change of heart in Anakin?
Looking at it now, it looks to me like the Council only disagreed with Qui-Gon because Qui-Gon already had Obi-Wan as his apprentice, and couldn't rightfully take on a second. Then they just shoved the issue aside. After Qui-Gon's death, I'm assuming that the Council was willing and able to let Obi-Wan take on the burden, and it could be that they wanted to honor Qui-Gon's final wish after his passing. I think the Council was cool with Anakin, but Yoda was always skeptical. It could even be that Yoda influenced the initial decision, but was then overruled.
uh...ok I'll have to watch the films again to understand your comment
It's just something I never thought of, but you must have. I never considered that we follow Jango Fett (the bounty hunter) from the Clone Army (which he fathered with his own DNA) to the Droid Army (where he hangs out, apparently). So really, he's been on both the Republic and Seperatist worlds, and is therefore something of a double-dealer.
Hahaha nice, I forgot about that. There were some pretty good discussions on here last winter. I liked it a lot but I think I was just out of it that night and didn't enjoy it as much as I thought I would, so I'm looking forward to revisiting it again someday.
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this man speaks great wisdom. the force is strong with this one.
best part:
[Show spoiler]"a f&*king tiger!!!!! never get out of the boat, man!!!!!!!!!!! never get out of the boat!!!!!"
Sheeeit, bout time I get some recognition around here
But yeah it really is a fantastic film, looking forward to watching Redux someday
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I actually prefer the second to the first. love the backstory. learning how the godfather came to america and rose, STEP BY STEP, to where he is at the beginning of part 1? yes please!!! it is longer (3 1/2 hours) but long films dont bother me as long as they have quality content. heck, I would have eagerly watched a 6 hour piece on the godfather's rise. way too fascinating to me. plus, vito
[Show spoiler]going back to italy to get revenge on that fat S.O.B. who killed his brother?? hell yes!!
not only do we get the godfather's rise, but we get
[Show spoiler]an investigative/detective type manhunt for Michael's shooter, with Michael pretending he knows the shooter, so that the real shooter remains calm and does business with him?? wow, now that is some great script material!
. I completely respect that you love part 1 more. They're both great films. As you can tell, I adore part 2! you could easily give reasons why part 1 is better. they're both too good!!
I can definitely agree that it was a very interesting backstory, I just didn't care for it as much. It was very well written and the film was great, but it wasn't nearly as well done, nor as effective (for me). I would definitely dig a six hour version of the second film too because it could impove it
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on a related note, check out this "top 1000 films" ranking from "They SHoot Pictures", probably the most respected movie ranking out there: http://www.theyshootpictures.com/gf1000_top100films.htm
Godfather 1? #5 all-time. Godfather 2? #15 all-time. That's pretty sick: both godfather's ranked in the top 15 films out of the top 1000 films ever made!!! (yes, its just a list, but a pretty respected one nonetheless)
Lol Jhigster's favorite list. I didn't remember that they're both in the top 15, that's rad
I don't wanna read any of it but man I'm tempted to jump in on the Black Swan convo but I haven't seen it since the theaters, can't wait to watch it again. I've kinda been in love with here since I saw her as a kid in Leon
Doesn't matter, I won't be able to watch these suckers until the weekend. Stupid work!
Yeah, blame the delivery man. It's not like they forget a package is on their truck and then have to deliver it the next day. Oh, wait, that was my UPS guy when he delivered my Blu-rays but not my Gears of War 3 on Tuesday...
I see you managed to watch one, but I won't be watching any of them until the weekend, so I can't say anything.
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). In this sense, I still don't think Yoda really trusted him.
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Or perhaps it's just another one of those scenes where the bad guy "monologues" so diabolically. 
I don't know if its the blu-ray PQ but I think I yelled "OMG!!!" 8-10 times during Episodes I-II during different entrances she made. 
Its all cleared up now, thanks! Although I still look forward to another viewing and seeing where the republic army was ordered in the film
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