Jurassic Park Collection 4K UHD (1993-2015)

[fighthefutureofhd]

I better take my copy back to Best Buy and return it. The internets says it's bad then IT'S BAD.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by solid12345

I think you misunderstand me, i'm not knocking 4k as a format, I WANT to buy 4K. I'm just saying though for me to go out and re-buy a movie I already own on 1080p, it better be a damn good transfer and not a half-assed one which is what this set looks like based on what i'm seeing in the thread.

You will always find someone to tell you to stick with the Blu or the DVD. Always.

Originally Posted by solid12345

I can do math, 2K specs are only 128 pixels wider than 1080p but to an average consumer who doesn't read specifications, 2K sounds "twice" as good as 1080p so they blindly accept its banality. And when you buy a decent name-brand TV with a good upscaler, it makes it even harder to justify buying a 2k movie masquerading as 4k.

You don't have Zero Dark Thirty? How can a single human who's screened this on a proper display remain confused about 2K DI on UHD?!

Originally Posted by solid12345

All I want is for the format to actually be about quality instead of more junk being pushed, it's like early DVD all over again with poor transfers that even laserdisc looked better in some cases.

Examples? Sure, there are a few to avoid, but c'mon!

Originally Posted by solid12345

It's sad we literally have a site dedicated to "real" or "fake" 4k, I feel like i'm researching a receiver when buying a movie now!

What's sad is that a site such as this is relied upon for anything.

[Harryhausen AF]

Literally everything is fine except the DNR. They are better than the BDs that's for sure!

[jh901]

Originally Posted by Harryhausen AF

Literally everything is fine except the DNR. They are better than the BDs that's for sure!

Which display do you have and is it pro calibrated?

[Harryhausen AF]

Originally Posted by jh901

Which display do you have and is it pro calibrated?

The DNR is there but the colors are fine. There is nothing wrong with my display.

[Leonidas King]

So far I've watched JP and TLW and I've been quite satisfied with how both looked. Not to mention the dts:x track is glorious.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by Harryhausen AF

The DNR is there but the colors are fine. There is nothing wrong with my display.

I agree. It's helpful to know what everyone is watching though. Right? I mean, that's pretty basic.

You have a panel display? Which? Pro calibrated?

[jh901]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Is the movie cropped like the digital version?

The 1.85 aspect of the digital version is cropped?

[gates70]

Originally Posted by jh901

I agree. It's helpful to know what everyone is watching though. Right? I mean, that's pretty basic.

You have a panel display? Which? Pro calibrated?

He's been asked in other threads and doesn't divulge.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by gates70

He's been asked in other threads and doesn't divulge.

What is the rationale? We are here to learn from one another. There's a zero percent chance that sharing views on image quality will be meaningful without others knowing about the display. It would be like discussing the nuances of getting around a particular sports car course without knowing the car and tire pressure, etc.

[MechaGodzilla]

Originally Posted by Ruined

Do you truly believe they are not going to release a complete 4K UHD collection when Jurassic World 3 comes out? If they do, it will likely be the same price or cheaper by then, and there is a good shot they could do a new scan of JP1. Granted, that is 3 years away, but if you already have the Jurassic Park films on BD thats not that long IMO.

Lets say they do release a new scan on JP1, but the only way to get it is to rebuy the entire "Complete Collection" with JP1-JP3, and JW1-JW3. How would you feel about the current set then?


Its only $50, but Universal could have done things to make it more palatable, such as including empty holders to put JW2/JW3 discs when they come out so you could have a truly complete collection, or have individual cases for each of the films. But I think they will probably prefer to re-sell everyone on the whole collection again in 3 years when it is complete. Including a new scan of JP1 exclusive to a new collection would virtually guarantee everyone to double dip on the whole thing, too.

As it stands, this seems a bit like a half baked incomplete set to cash-in on JW2 coming out this year, with little thought of the collector and future planned JW releases in mind.

There will be a new box set when the next sequel comes out, of that there is little doubt. But if you think there's any kind of realistic chance Universal will give the first film a makeover in just three years, then you're a lot more optimistic than I am.

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by imsounoriginal

What'd you think of the transfers for the other three movies? Are they good enough to purchase even if the first one's isn't perfect? Genuinely curious cuz you're clearly a big fan (understatement of the year lol).

The Lost World: Jurassic Park looks like a better upgrade to me. Even though it's not as good as The Mummy, it's better than The Mummy Returns. I'd be curious to see how that matches with the JP2 35mm prints though. JP3 looks to be the worst of the bunch as per the screens. It has the same pink, blueish colour grading of the 2D BD and has apparently been DNR'd, resulting in a softer looking image.
I'd say JP3 has the least luck of ever getting a proper master because many regard it as a trash sequel. I love it and feel it is unfairly maligned.
Everyone is claiming JW 4K to be the best of the bunch. From the screens, it appears they are correct in saying so. It has a colder colour timing (not pinkish as JP1 and JP3) but that was present theatrically as well. So, I'm not complaining.

Look at Geoff's review of JP2 and JP3. He says it better!

Originally Posted by jh901

The 1.85 aspect of the digital version is cropped?

What he means is that the framing has been zoomed in/tightened on all four sides. Actually, the theatrical framing was also tight at the sides. But, in the cinema, the masking revealed more image of the top of the frame than the bottom. No dinosaur heads were cropped as a result. In the DVD and Blu-ray, the framing has been pushed down a bit, making the headroom tighter and giving more legroom than the theatrical.

[gates70]

Originally Posted by jh901

What is the rationale? We are here to learn from one another. There's a zero percent chance that sharing views on image quality will be meaningful without others knowing about the display. It would be like discussing the nuances of getting around a particular sports car course without knowing the car and tire pressure, etc.

He's been complaining about UHD in a lot of threads, so my guess is that his set is not up to par or something.

[jh901]

Originally Posted by gates70

He's been complaining about UHD in a lot of threads, so my guess is that his set is not up to par or something.

Ok, but anyone who comes here is bound to learn something which can add to their experience. Sure, there's a lot of "noise", but identifying reliable sources is so valuable. Share. Learn. Get curious. Discover. I mean, it's all upside.

In this guy's case, what if the grayscale is off along with color accuracy and saturation!? Everything will look better instantly if calibrated. Not just one movie. An entire collection!

[s_har]

Originally Posted by MechaGodzilla

There will be a new box set when the next sequel comes out, of that there is little doubt. But if you think there's any kind of realistic chance Universal will give the first film a makeover in just three years, then you're a lot more optimistic than I am.

I guess realistically the 30th anniversary of JP1 in 2023 will be the next possibility of a new UHD. I won't get my hopes up though.
Hopefully it will be given a theatrical re-release for the 30th anniversary and if Spielberg gets involved in that process then perhaps that may lead to a new UHD disc as well?

[CaptWithNoName]

Originally Posted by Leonidas_King

So far I've watched JP and TLW and I've been quite satisfied with how both looked. Not to mention the dts:x track is glorious.

I've watched all of them, and JW definitely looks the best. Healthy grain presence, great uptick in detail and textures, and very cool color grading. Truly though, the DTS:X tracks are worth the price of admission on their own.

[kristoffer]

The old BD clearly has better details that this UHD.
https://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?g...116780&i=7&l=0

What a travesty!

[jh901]

Originally Posted by CaptWithNoName

Truly though, the DTS:X tracks are worth the price of admission on their own.

I've only screened JP1, but the core 7.1 is fantastic. Is the core any different than the original release?

[Riddhi2011]

Originally Posted by s_har

I guess realistically the 30th anniversary of JP1 in 2023 will be the next possibility of a new UHD. I won't get my hopes up though.
Hopefully it will be given a theatrical re-release for the 30th anniversary and if Spielberg gets involved in that process then perhaps that may lead to a new UHD disc as well?

I think it's highly unlikely that every five years they will celebrate JP1 and put out a new remaster. Maybe they'll do that in the 40th anniversary (2033) and if 8K home video format arrives. But even then I am not counting on Universal to bring the original 35mm print colour timing on the home front.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

The old BD clearly has better details that this UHD.
https://www.caps-a-holic.com/c.php?g...116780&i=7&l=0

What a travesty!