Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Will we miss constant posting of sales data?

I won’t.

I don't mind some stats, but its not the gospel of the marketplace direction. I just don't see hardly anything online that is definitive as facts, only different perspectives from online expert sources (not YouTube types) on what's new and possibly might advance this Home Video discussion. You yourself can determine the viability of what you are using and what you need in the future.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Suspect that I have watched Blade Runner 1982 more than two dozen times at home. The first time we saw it was in a large theater and I did not much care for it. Have had it on LaserDisc, DVD, Blu-ray and now UHD Blu-ray. Love the UHD version because of the sound track remix in Dolby Atmos.

I tend to listen as much/more as watch a movie.

Same with Alien and Aliens for me.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You posted in a HT/Blu-ray forum. What do you want? A pat on the head for losing interest in film?

You already stated your interest in film is fading.

My interest in film is NOT fading. My interest in PHYSICALLY owning a film is. But then again, my interest in physically owning anything that's not a necessity is fading. Ever heard of Spring cleaning? It's when people spend their Spring cleaning their house and getting rid of accumulated stuff that they bought and no longer need. I've went through that too many times in my life and it's annoying. And that's why I try to be more and more selective in what I physically buy.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Very well said. Funny that I at times will enjoy a movie more the 2nd time I watch it.

Happened to me last night. Trainspotting 2.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Strange why people come to a site named Blu-ray.COM and proceed to tell others they do not buy disc anymore. Enlighten us, what is your motivation? Agenda? Just trolling?

Um, I never told anyone not to buy discs. In fact, if you love buying discs, then I encourage you to keep buying. For me, they've done no purpose but collect dust because I rarely have a desire to watch a movie more than once. In fact, if you also like collecting baseball cards, feel free to do that as well.

You do what you want, I respect that. I do what I want, you respect that. That's all I'm getting at.

And even though the name of this website is Blu-ray.com, we should still be posting impartially.

[gotmule]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Suspect that I have watched Blade Runner 1982 more than two dozen times at home. The first time we saw it was in a large theater and I did not much care for it. Have had it on LaserDisc, DVD, Blu-ray and now UHD Blu-ray. Love the UHD version because of the sound track remix in Dolby Atmos.

I tend to listen as much/more as watch a movie.

Preach. I recently went back to watch the Tom Hanks / Ron Howard trilogy of Robert Langdon movies on UHD. I liked them the first time around, but really appreciated the 2nd time through mostly because of the new mixes on all of them. Side note, the last one Inferno, had an unbelievable Atmos mix. Not the most bombastic movie, but a perfectly balanced mix with great pans, placement, and clarity.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I definitely recommend buying a house.

Then, More movies.

If I did have a house, I'd use the spare room as a HT room with a HUGE TV and BIG surround sound speakers. Why do you think my name is MrHT? I still like HT, but I just want to watch different movies on it and not the same thing over and over.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I think it goes deeper than that. With a true passion, you always find a way. I truly believe that.

Lets not cast away practicality. If ones's living space is restrictive you just can't always find a way. Also your priorities change later in life, so you enjoy what you accumulated, and tend to more particular to what you add to your modest collection.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

You do know that just about all you mentioned is not required for a fairly decent home theater with or without a projector.

Depends on the eyes and ears of the beholder. Items below were installed late 1984 to early 1985. This was in a 1250 sq. ft. condo with a family of 3. In those days I would do just about anything for money to support my habit.

[Show spoiler]

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

You posted in a HT/Blu-ray forum. What do you want? A pat on the head for losing interest in film?

You already stated your interest in film is fading.

Since when is watching any form of content losing interest in film? Film is not physical media, it is owned by the studio, and through whatever medium you enjoy that film, you are still a fan.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Strange why people come to a site named Blu-ray.COM and proceed to tell others they do not buy disc anymore. Enlighten us, what is your motivation? Agenda? Just trolling?

Wendell you do know that this Blu-ray.com caters to both physical media and digital content. The topic also concern both. If you can't elicit opinions one could say you lack flexibility to learn to pros/cons of all what we support here.

[bhampton]

I tend to think a film fan would seek the best quality presentation.

If I was a fan of muscle cars, I would want to see the best restorations.

If a music lover has only heard MP3 then they are still a fan but they have no idea what they are doing.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Um, I never told anyone not to buy discs.

Did not say you did. I asked why people come to this site and tell others they, themselves, do not buy disc anymore.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Did not say you did. I asked why people come to this site and tell others they, themselves, do not buy disc anymore.

Why can't I say that? I'm not saying anything wrong or insulting people. And I don't think it was such an offensive thing to say nor did I think it would anger people.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Wendell you do know that this Blu-ray.com caters to both physical media and digital content. The topic also concern both. If you can't elicit opinions one could say you lack flexibility to learn to pros/cons of all what we support here.

Posted before but will post again:

Have accounts with the following:

• Amazon
• Apple iTunes (Roku)
• Disney+
• Fandango
• Flixster (defunct)
• Movies Anywhere
• Netflix
• Vudu
• YouTube

Mainly used for streaming:
Sony FMP-X10 ● $470 (sold for $120)
Sony BDP-S6700 ● $88.00
Sony UBP-X800/BM ● $268.00
Sony UBP-X1000ES ● $498.00

Streaming only:
Nvidia Shield Pro 2019 ● $199.99 + FLIRC Receiver $23 + Inteset IReTV USB IR Receiver $24
Roku Ultra 2019 ● $83
(2) Chromecast Audio ● $35.00 each

For a total of $1,603 for hardware

Is that flexible enough for you? If not, what do you suggest?

[bhampton]

I think people who use both discs and steaming are the ones most vocal about how much better discs are.

Because we see the difference every day.

I have the ATV4K and use it for lots of stuff - live sports, occasional tv, stuff I’ve never before heard of but want to check out.

I use both and it only reminds me which one is far superior

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Why can't I say that?

All I asked was: what is motivation? Reason? for posting the comments.

I am not a mod but the rules are here.

If your only purpose on this forum is to question Blu-ray as a format and bringing negativity to the forum, then you are not welcome.

[Cevolution]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Strange why people come to a site named Blu-ray.COM and proceed to tell others they do not buy disc anymore. Enlighten us, what is your motivation? Agenda? Just trolling?

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Yeah, that’s my point. I always feel it’s justification they seek but they ain’t gonna get that here except from Alchav and the voice of the people, Cevolution.

It’s odd.

Without those people coming here to this site and giving their point of view about why they prefer digital, and no longer buy discs, then this thread would be absolutely pointless... If you are here because you want to talk to other disc collectors, and don't want to see comments from people "telling others that collect discs that they don't buy discs anymore", then this thread should be closed by the mods right now

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Hoarding is if you collect things that you don’t use, no? I always thought that if you use the stuff you collect then you are still considered as a collector.

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I think it goes deeper than that. With a true passion, you always find a way. I truly believe that.

However, you have put words into my mouth then ended with a raised eyebrow emoji.

Quite hilarious.

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

Strange why people come to a site named Blu-ray.COM and proceed to tell others they do not buy disc anymore. Enlighten us, what is your motivation? Agenda? Just trolling?

You guys do know as sales for PM goes down the prices will go up, and I guess that is one of the reasons you want people to keep buying to keep the prices stable. True Collectors want the best, and rare Movies and TV Shows, also OOP. These items will be costly, but with Deep Pockets you guys should have no problems!

[avs commenter]

this thread is like two political parties debating. no one on either side is ever changing their mind