Physical & Digital EST: The Future of Home Video Discussion Thread

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Great timing! I am hoping to find a good deal somewhere during this week on it. Love the first and like a couple of the others, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

Deep Discount was still the best when I was able to use a coupon. Got it for $64 with tax and their $2.99 shipping charge for being a heavier item. I know Amazon has it for $69.99 plus sales tax, so that'll be closer to $80 depending where you're at.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Vilya

I have to say that I am impressed by Sherri Bogard at Warner Bros. customer service.

I had written to her back in June about my defective DVD copy of the documentary MGM: When The Lion Roars hosted by Patrick Stewart. It was a bonus feature included with the 70th Anniversary Ultimate blu-ray edition of Gone With The Wind.

At the time, she wrote back to me and said that her office was closed due to the pandemic and that she would help when it was re-opened. I wrote back to her two more times about a month apart each to see if there was any estimate as to when I might get a replacement. I got the same answer each time. I last wrote to her in August and she said that she would send me a replacement as soon as they re-opened. I thought I was basically being told to go away and I gave up any hope of ever getting a replacement as month after month went by and nothing came.

My replacement arrived today! She actually remembered my request three months after I last wrote to her and five months after I had first written to her. If only such customer service was commonplace and not the exception!

Defective discs seem like a weekly occurrence these days. Mark one in the win column for digital there.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Defective discs seem like a weekly occurrence these days. Mark one in the win column for digital there.

[flyry]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Word to the Psycho 4K fiasco

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

Defective discs seem like a weekly occurrence these days. Mark one in the win column for digital there.

The defective DVD in question was a "flipper" disc and these have a particularly bad record for longevity.

The replacement came on two DVDs.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by flyry

Word to the Psycho 4K fiasco

The Psycho 4K disc lacks the original mono audio track (it has a down mixed mono audio track instead) and that has nothing to do with the performance or longevity of the 4K disc format itself. It's just stupidity on the part of Universal to make the same mistake twice when their replacement disc still lacks the original mono audio track.

The discs themselves play fine; Universal simply failed to include something- twice.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by flyry

Word to the Psycho 4K fiasco

You are talking about a format that requires a new smart tv to enjoy some of the latest updated apps on certain models. I don’t think a defective batch of discs holds a candle to that.

[bhampton]

I’ll take problematic disc encodes over craptastic compressed to the Absolute Max undownloadable permission to watch someone else’s copy.

But, I understand this is a personal choice that for the now we all have. I actually do both disc and steaming but I know what I prefer and which one is technically superior.

Either way, it’s all digital. Can we stop calling steaming digital ? The discs have been all digital since DVD.

So it’s all digital and just a matter if you want lossless audio and less video compression and if you want your own copy or the “ok” to watch some one else’s copy if it’s available.

[cheez avenger]

More 4K disc sales on Amazon and Best Buy this morning. Just snagged 10 more titles!

Star Trek
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek Beyond
The Great Wall
The Shining
Atomic Blonde
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows
Jack Reacher
Wonder Woman


With sales tax and free shipping my total came out to $9.79 per title, which is a win!

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by bhampton

I’ll take problematic disc encodes over craptastic compressed to the Absolute Max undownloadable permission to watch someone else’s copy.

agree plus the occasional bad disk over your whole or part of your collection disappearing or the app on your device not being supported any more so you can't watch until the device gets replaced.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

More 4K disc sales on Amazon and Best Buy this morning. Just snagged 10 more titles!

Star Trek
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek Beyond
The Great Wall
The Shining
Atomic Blonde
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows
Jack Reacher
Wonder Woman


With sales tax and free shipping my total came out to $9.79 per title, which is a win!

Holy that’s cheap. No such thing in Canada.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Either way, it’s all digital. Can we stop calling steaming digital ? The discs have been all digital since DVD.

The results of DEG marketing. Many years ago at AVS I would refer to streaming as IPTV but almost no one knew what I was talking about. At work that was the term we used for any digitized A/V to or from the internet. By the early 90's we were all D-2 format (recording, routing, distribution, monitoring, etc.). I also dislike the term 4K to describe 3840 video, it should called UHD. 4K should be used for 4096 video.

The term IPTV first appeared in 1995 with the founding of Precept Software by Judith Estrin and Bill Carrico. Precept developed an Internet video product named IP/TV. IP/TV was an Mbone compatible Windows and Unix-based application that transmitted single and multi-source audio and video traffic, ranging from low to DVD quality, using both unicast and IP multicast Real-time Transport Protocol (RTP) and Real time control protocol (RTCP). The software was written primarily by Steve Casner, Karl Auerbach, and Cha Chee Kuan. Precept was acquired by Cisco Systems in 1998.[7] Cisco retains the IP/TV trademark.

Early LaserDisc A/V was stored on disc as analog (FM carrier) but by 1985 digital audio was added. Later Dolby Digital and DTS 5.1 audio was also added.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

More 4K disc sales on Amazon and Best Buy this morning. Just snagged 10 more titles!

The Great Wall has one of the better Atmos (immersive audio ) tracks. Hope you enjoy it.

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The results of DEG marketing. Many years ago at AVS I would refer to streaming as IPTV

personally I prefer and tried to push virtual media. It comprises streaming and DL.

[cheez avenger]

Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland

The Great Wall has one of the better Atmos (immersive audio ) tracks. Hope you enjoy it.

I own the movie on BD but it was time for an upgrade!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by gotmule

Hey Guys. Took some pictures with the new iPhone 12 Pro and uploaded a new gallery. It does a lot better with the room, but doesn’t quite handle the light boxes well. Still need to take new screen shots as I am guessing they should be more accurate with the existing ones. Let me know what you think.

Your home theater is a thing of beauty!

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by bhampton

Either way, it’s all digital. Can we stop calling steaming digital ? The discs have been all digital since DVD.

So it’s all digital and just a matter if you want lossless audio and less video compression and if you want your own copy or the “ok” to watch some one else’s copy if it’s available.

The problem is that when you say that "it's all digital" it reinforces one of our member's misconception that all digital files are therefore equal in quality.

[Vilya]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

More 4K disc sales on Amazon and Best Buy this morning. Just snagged 10 more titles!

[Show spoiler]Star Trek
Star Trek Into Darkness
Star Trek Beyond
The Great Wall
The Shining
Atomic Blonde
Sherlock Holmes
Sherlock Holmes Game of Shadows
Jack Reacher
Wonder Woman

With sales tax and free shipping my total came out to $9.79 per title, which is a win!

Another great haul there! You're quite the savvy shopper.

[Wendell R. Breland]

Originally Posted by cheez avenger

I own the movie on BD but it was time for an upgrade!

Did you ever get your sub-woofers? If so, opinion?

[alchav21]

Originally Posted by Vilya

The problem is that when you say that "it's all digital" it reinforces one of our member's misconception that all digital files are therefore equal in quality.

Come on Vilya give me a break! Just like all Disc Files are not equal, Streaming Files are not equal. They all come from the same DI, so the Studio controls the File size and Quality depending on the Streaming Providers capabilities!